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SaaS vs. Open Core: Which Business Model Is Best?

104 点作者 twakefield将近 6 年前

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twakefield将近 6 年前
There is a google sheet which has the data I used for this post [0].<p>I had also looked at companies like Slack and Zoom which target lower average deal sizes and it was quite remarkable how much better their metrics were. But didn&#x27;t feel like it was apples to apples. That data is the spreadsheet though.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1BV1Kk542KHultHOB8LkzAotv1L5PvCb87_mrNMO43JI&#x2F;edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1BV1Kk542KHultHOB8Lkz...</a>
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tyldum将近 6 年前
We buy support. I dislike Open Core as it tends to be unclear where features go in the future, and the pricing is usually insane. At my workplace we need to be on-prem so SaaS is out. We often pay for support we don&#x27;t really need, in order to fund open source projects.
sytse将近 6 年前
I think in the article SaaS is used to refer to proprietary SaaS companies.<p>In my opinion these are two different dimensions. You have the delivery method: SaaS vs. self-managed&#x2F;on-premises. And you have the license of the code: proprietary vs. open-core (which can be fully open source, open-core, or a non-compete license like the one MongoDB and CockroachDB switched to).<p>At GitLab we have an open-core license and offer the product both as SaaS and self-managed, so we do both things in the title. The opposite would be companies offering only proprietary software that you run yourself, like Sketch.<p>Another dimension would be billing, people frequently mention SaaS as an example of subscription billing. At Gitlab we also bill for our self-managed software on a subscription basis instead of a big license fee upfront and yearly maintenance.
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jrochkind1将近 6 年前
&gt; In the second post, we discussed how there is actually quite a bit of overlap between SaaS and Open Core and to draw a distinction, we would assume the Open Core software is primarily being delivered on-premises for comparison purposes.<p>Hmm, that might be convenient for your analysis, but it seems an unsafe assumption and artificial categorization to me. I think an increasing number of &quot;open core&quot; efforts, possibly most of them, are trying to monetize the non-open-source portions via SaaS. In fact, as we saw in the Amazon&#x2F;ElasticSearch fight, one of the main motivations for not using a FLOSS license for some or all of your software is to prevent SaaS competitors from using the software you are producing.<p>I tried to look at your list of companies analyzed categorized &quot;Open Core&quot; to see how many of them offer a SaaS, but I realized that for these companies I was unfamiliar with it was hard to figure that out quickly from their web pages. Let alone then figure out if they were <i>primarily</i> delivering as SaaS if they offered an on-premises option (as even Github does). But that would seem to be neccessary to validate your assumptions.
karterk将近 6 年前
I&#x27;ve been working on an open source search engine (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;typesense&#x2F;typesense" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;typesense&#x2F;typesense</a>) and this exact deliberation has been on my mind.<p>Ideally, one could offer both on-premise and hosted versions (like Gitlab), but that&#x27;s really tricky and needs a lot of resources to pull off successfully.
njyx将近 6 年前
This question (or the basis of the analysis) really doesn&#x27;t make a ton of sense. The overriding deciding factor is really: who is the buyer and how do they want to buy. An open-core model for a strictly non-technical audience is a lot worse off than SaaS. On the other hand, if you have customers with security concerns SaaS may be off the table (still) for many of them.
mikekchar将近 6 年前
I&#x27;m really curious how bootstrapping as opposed to VC money would affect this comparison. Not really much in the way of data I imagine though... I suppose it&#x27;s hard to compare too. Big piece of a small pie vs small piece of a big pie kind of issues abound. Although HN has a very reasonable slant towards VC backed startups, I&#x27;m <i>much</i> more interested in bootstrapped startups.
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ummonk将近 6 年前
Isn’t there survivorship bias by looking at notable successful IPOs?
karussell将近 6 年前
Wrong question as usually both are combined<p>Edit: as already in other posts highlighted they are two different dimensions
opensourcenewb将近 6 年前
off topic but Neo4j recently executed an open source for open core bait and switch. thoughts on that?
Syzygies将近 6 年前
It&#x27;s a Jeopardy! clue.<p>[buzzer]<p>What is .. Software as a Service?