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“I thought I'd share this Boris Johnson story with you”

293 点作者 carusooneliner将近 6 年前

27 条评论

duxup将近 6 年前
I&#x27;ve been lucky enough to know some US state level politicians for quite some time, not major figures, but folks who did it most of their life (while doing other things too) and were successful at it.<p>I often got the felling that they did that thing, and even pushed the issues they did... because they were successful at it and it fit their personality. Most were not idealists despite what they said IMO, I suspect many if pressed to change their positions did not really care about the issues outside of a couple topics at most (and due to the winds of change in US politics most actually supported surprisingly different issues over time). They were just very good at getting along with people, shaking hands, negotiating deals, had the social skills that provided them the financal and political support hey needed to keep going.<p>In many ways it seemed to be a lifestyle that once they were successful, was also a sort of social life, and to some extent a thrill seeking event (elections are exciting) that just kept them going as people.<p>Not to pass the buck on any moral choices they make, they&#x27;re certainly responsible, but I suspect for may they just sort of fall into it, and just don&#x27;t want to quit the lifestyle as it fits who they are.
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pjc50将近 6 年前
Like Penn and Teller, it&#x27;s always interesting to see a magic trick deconstructed. And it is a &quot;trick&quot; or a &quot;routine&quot;, as much as anyone else&#x27;s performance. It relies entirely on intelligence and the ability to think on one&#x27;s feet, combined with a good memory of a stock of anecdotes that can be matched to the audience. Or at least a few stock ones that can be hammed up. The anecdotes mentioned (SHEEP and SHARK) are highly political, too, focusing on &quot;EU regulations&quot; and &quot;health and safety&quot;; mocking these is absolutely a staple of Johnsonism, and it goes down well with the soft-right and businessmen.<p>The haplessness is a routine that Brits absolutely love, and again it takes no small skill to be professionally hapless. This was also a staple of Wogan&#x27;s performances; famously, for the big Children in Need telethons, he never did any of the rehearsals but came on and delivered a charismatic and funny performance - all night.<p>The problem is that Johnson is not applying for the job of chat show host, he&#x27;s applying for PM, and this routine absolutely does not work on other EU leaders. He also appears to be entirely self-centered and amoral. Years ago having a daughter in adultery would have disqualified him ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2013&#x2F;may&#x2F;21&#x2F;boris-johnson-fathered-child-affair" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2013&#x2F;may&#x2F;21&#x2F;boris-johns...</a> ), but in post-Trump times nobody cares.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.harrowell.org.uk&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-two-cultures-2017-merit-versus-brilliance&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.harrowell.org.uk&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2017&#x2F;12&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-two-cultures...</a> : explores this concept at greater length. As a Cambridge alumnus I&#x27;m absolutely familiar with brilliance as a kind of performance. For those in that culture glib effortlessness is prized. An earlier example might be Enoch Powell&#x27;s showboating on his Classical Greek paper - when asked to do a translation into Greek of a poem, he did two versions as pastiches of different Greek poets and then left early.
philjohn将近 6 年前
The thing people need to know about Boris is that 99% of what you see in public is a carefuly crafted image of a harmless, and somewhat likeable buffoon.<p>If you listen to the recording of where he was talking with an acquaitance about supplying him with the address of a reporter for said acquaintance to &quot;rough up&quot; an entirely different man emerges, one who doesn&#x27;t stammer and ham things up.<p>Boris is a very calculating man, and has fooled so many, for so long. This story paints this point very vividly.
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ruytlm将近 6 年前
I am reminded of a post I once read[0] on how coyotes are &#x27;too clever by half&#x27;; smart enough to realise how to win each skirmish, but without realising they&#x27;re losing the metagame.<p>Johnson strikes me as someone who has learned to &#x27;hack&#x27; the skirmishes (e.g. by playing the fool when giving speeches as discussed) in order to win in the short term, but who seems oblivious to (or to be willfully disregarding) the long term detrimental effect his skirmishing has on the UK.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.epsilontheory.com&#x2F;too-clever-by-half&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.epsilontheory.com&#x2F;too-clever-by-half&#x2F;</a>
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dr_dshiv将近 6 年前
This was a fun read. My take is that politicians showing up to random award ceremonies and giving a canned speech is a normal situation, though. That he can give a canned speech in a way that seems self-deprecating and authentic, in order to entertain and connect with the audience, is impressive. I can understand why someone would feel that this is a form of lying.<p>He is an entertainer and capable of manipulating crowds. My concern is the lack of people like this who share my own politics.
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daniel75378将近 6 年前
Isn’t this normally called a one-trick pony?<p>Alternatively it is very much like what actors do; act.<p>I am struggling to see a sense of professionalism, concern or leadership, unfortunately.<p>Nice hair, though.
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ggm将近 6 年前
The moral of the story: it&#x27;s a giant con, and all of us, worldwide are the mark.
garypoc将近 6 年前
The only logical conclusion we can make about this post is that the writer is indeed a good storyteller!
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fit2rule将近 6 年前
Think for yourself: what is happening underneath all these distractions by loud and obnoxious clowns? Am I possibly missing something important while all this fuss and nonsense is distracting the general public?<p>Because, we are living in an age of cults. The mechanics of the cult process are well and truly understood by the rich and powerful at this point, and we are never going to be safe for as long as we are members, unwittingly, of a cult for which we don&#x27;t know the real purpose.
andy_ppp将近 6 年前
In some horrendous nihilistic way we seem to get the politicians we deserve. Hopefully Boris and Trump are the end of this mess and after they screw everything we get something better, but I fear it’s just the start. It really does feel like we live in the hunger games right now.
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Simon_says将近 6 年前
I block all Facebook properties at the DNS level. Is there another source for this?
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diego_moita将近 6 年前
As a non-British, I say that the idea of Boris Johnson leading Britain through Brexit sounds just like an orangutan riding a double decker bus through Piccadilly Circus: you don&#x27;t want to be there, but you don&#x27;t want to miss a second of this show.<p>Sorry Italy! You&#x27;re not the funniest country in Europe anymore. Britain just got their own Silvio Berlusconi.
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arittr将近 6 年前
This is a true HN gem - thanks, really made my evening.
talos将近 6 年前
So he’s a comedian, and a bad one.
badcede将近 6 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=X3gabyntpWg#t=2m58s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=X3gabyntpWg#t=2m58s</a>
senectus1将近 6 年前
Why do we (our society) keep electing these sorts of people?
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noncoml将近 6 年前
So, he is an actor?
bifrost将近 6 年前
ok, thats hilarious.
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Arbalest将近 6 年前
He must have recognised the seachange of populism and created a persona to suit. Reminds me of the BDG video on Polygon on how to create the perfect E3 presentation. Particularly the part about Gaffes.<p>I suppose this was a long time coming, in marketing circles, it is agreed that &quot;Generation X&quot; was the first &quot;Jaded&quot; generation, and I feel like there&#x27;s some link there. Marketing to that generation often involves taking the piss out of their own product, and it is now the generation which is right in the age group to start wielding significant power and still has a number of good working years.
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Bakary将近 6 年前
This calls to mind the idea that our world is uniquely suited to psychopaths (or whatever the current DSM-V term is). Cities are too large for people to be held accountable as a villager would. There is too much information for scandals to have consequences. The thirst for confidence and charm is so intense that charisma or presence is by far the most useful quality a person can have. Modern life is filled with so much stress that those who cannot feel fear or empathy are highly advantaged.<p>In the end you can have amorphous politicians who can change their identity at any moment and be hailed for it, because they provide some form of emotional value to people in a world where nothing matters anymore anyway.<p>Looking at the new generation of entertainers on streaming or video platforms, many of them seem to have dark triad traits.
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DanBC将近 6 年前
&gt; “Now, I accept,” he went on in an uncertain tone, “that as a result some small children were eaten by a shark. But how much more pleasure did the MAJORITY get from those beaches as a result of the boldness of the Mayor in Jaws?”<p>A small reminder that this is a direct cause of Grenfell, where 72 people died in a burning building.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Grenfell_Tower_fire" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Grenfell_Tower_fire</a>
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0815test将近 6 年前
&gt; Johnson excelled in English and Classics<p>English and Classics... seriously, dude? That&#x27;s good enough for working at Starbucks and McDonalds, I guess, but not for much else. Least of all for effective policymaking.
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smangbang将近 6 年前
Who&#x27;s the POTUS right now?
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sonnyblarney将近 6 年前
If this is true, the man is obviously a genius.<p>That said, the &#x27;act of the fool&#x27; mightn&#x27;t work in operational reality, because if everyone believes he&#x27;s an unprepared bumpkin, then that&#x27;s the reality, and he won&#x27;t be respected.<p>His former editor at the Telegraph had some very harsh words about him, along the lines of &#x27;he only cares about himself, he&#x27;s totally unprepared, has no idea what he is doing&#x27; etc. and I&#x27;ll gather that rings true.<p>So maybe he is a populist genius, but I&#x27;m not sure how well this will bode for the current EU&#x2F;Brexit crisis.
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sittingnut将近 6 年前
politics allowed here?
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baybal2将近 6 年前
That &quot;sea change&quot; in populism did not started just now.<p>I felt since around late nineties that Western and Eastern politics are getting closer with each day, to the point of convergence.<p>See, that &quot;ultrapopulism&quot; did not start with Trump and Co., it started with mainstream, centrist parties beginning to resorting to extreme political maneuvers and demagoguery at around start of millennium, with WTC attacks greatly facilitating that.<p>Whatever slogans the modern ultrapopulists operate, could&#x27;ve easily be taken for something coming from Lenin, Stalin, Pol or Mao few decades ago.
bubblewrap将近 6 年前
Politician giving speeches at some random gathering of industry types - isn&#x27;t that SUPPOSED to be entertainment? It&#x27;s not as if those speeches matter in any way?<p>I think comedians do a similar thing, practicing their act until it seems spontaneous but every punchline hits. Why should politicians do their job part of &quot;public speaking&quot; in a different way?<p>So what does &quot;for real&quot; mean? If a comedian manages to look spontaneous, yet every word and move has been practiced hundreds of times, is he for real?