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FBI, ICE using state driver’s license photos for facial-recognition searches

229 点作者 cVwEq将近 6 年前

14 条评论

metaphor将近 6 年前
This line caught my attention:<p>&gt; <i>The FBI said its system is 86 percent accurate at finding the right person if a search is able to generate a list of 50 possible matches, according to the GAO. But the FBI has not tested its system’s accuracy under conditions that are closer to normal, such as when a facial search returns only a few possible matches.</i><p>What the GAO study[1] actually said:<p>&gt; <i>However, we found that the tests were limited because they did not include all possible candidate list sizes and did not specify how often incorrect matches were returned. ... The FBI’s detection rate requirement for face recognition searches at the time stated that when the person exists in the database, NGI-IPS shall return a match of this person at least 85 percent of the time. However, we found that the FBI only tested this requirement with a candidate list of 50 potential matches. In these tests, 86 percent of the time, a match to a person in the database was correctly returned. The FBI had not assessed accuracy when users requested a list of 2 to 49 matches.<p>According to FBI, a smaller list would likely lower the accuracy of the searches as the smaller list may not contain the likely match that would be present in the larger list.</i><p>In other words, their acceptance test procedure was gamed from the beginning.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gao.gov&#x2F;assets&#x2F;700&#x2F;699489.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gao.gov&#x2F;assets&#x2F;700&#x2F;699489.pdf</a>
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xmichael999将近 6 年前
I don&#x27;t know too much about facial recognition technology (I work more in the ALPR space), but I know enough to tell you that a single photo is not enough to train the software to do anything useful. Either they were sold a dream by a company making bogus claims, or they just don&#x27;t give a shit about false postives in the slightest and they use it as justification to randomly stop and search people. There was an article about the UK doing this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;04&#x2F;uk-met-facial-recognition-failure-rate&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;04&#x2F;uk-met-facial-recognitio...</a> I can&#x27;t find the hacker news link, but its worth a read.
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clay_the_ripper将近 6 年前
Sensible regulations around what the government can do&#x2F;not do in regards to things like facial recognition tech seems like it’s becoming more and more necessary. I am far more worried about privacy invasions&#x2F;abuse by the government than I am by private companies that seem to get all the press (ie facebook). For the simple reason that 1) facebook can’t arrest me 2) facebook has no incentive other than targeting me with ads 3) facebook is actually incentivized to keep this data to themselves now that future competitors will not be able to Hoover up as much data as facebook did.<p>On the other hand, governments with the power to mass surveil their citizens has proven to be a horrible idea.<p>Given the choice, I’ll take the lesser of two evils which is a company that is interested in knowing the things I buy and where I go, for the express purpose of selling better ads. But all the press goes to “let’s break up big tech”. I’d be much more interested in stopping the mass surveillance of citizens by an entity that has the power to kill, imprison, subjugate and arrest, rather than an entity that has the power to target me with ads.
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aasasd将近 6 年前
I keep seeing the press complaining of police using face recognition that “is not accurate.” IMO yall might want to stop making that argument. Because you&#x27;re gonna one day find cameras on every lamppost, and police tracking your every movement and saying “it&#x27;s alright now because it&#x27;s 100% accurate.”
morpheuskafka将近 6 年前
Hmm, almost like those REAL IDs weren&#x27;t such a good idea... not like civil liberties advocates mentioned this or anything... The ID security improvements (central issuance, anti-copying features) were fine and good, the federal database is not.
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_iyig将近 6 年前
Fairness of the U.S. immigration system aside, what is wrong in principle with law enforcement using driver’s license photos to uphold and enforce the law? When you drive on public roads, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Tinted windows which obscure the driver’s face are, to the best of my knowledge, illegal in most of the U.S.<p>I would be much more concerned if law enforcement were, for example, using these photos to profile drivers by race or using them in an otherwise illegal manner. That doesn’t seem to be the case here.
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sys_64738将近 6 年前
This is the problem with technology. In the old days the police were required to use detective work to solve crimes with supporting evidence. Nowadays they use brute force technology to find an alleged felon then use brute force techniques to take them down. Usually the latter is based on probabilities.
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ct520将近 6 年前
Yeah this was a given when Arizona had to get new photos taken. We got called in 5+ years ago (we never have to renew) for new head shots. They zoomed in and were really particular about how our face showed up.
RaceWon将近 6 年前
Imagine a USA where the citizens are no longer armed, and the 1st Amendment has been cannibalized by the passing of various &quot;hate speech&quot; laws that only serve the interests of the current elected... and then imagine trying to redress a Government gone full Orwellian. Just sayin.
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nirav72将近 6 年前
was in Aruba recently - The US Custom clearance occurs there before your return trip to the U.S. The CBP officer didn&#x27;t even open my passport. just had me look into a webcam and he had my info pulled up on his screen with few seconds.
mutt2016将近 6 年前
Cheap technology, thousands of AI programmer monkeys. Makes sense.
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imglorp将近 6 年前
What did you think was going to happen? Did you speak out against it when it was proposed? How would they NOT use this data available to them?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aclu.org&#x2F;issues&#x2F;privacy-technology&#x2F;national-id&#x2F;real-id" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aclu.org&#x2F;issues&#x2F;privacy-technology&#x2F;national-id&#x2F;r...</a>
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gizmoduck将近 6 年前
Is there a non-GDPR-wall, non-pay-wall, non-reenable ads version of this? Even their JS reaches through the the sands of Web Archive time and blocks viewing the article...
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2Ccltvcm将近 6 年前
There is nothing you can do about it. You have no meaningful impact on any government policies. Why waste time writing about this stuff if legislative representatives do not care about your writings? Genuinely curious why people waste time complaining about things they have zero control over.
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