BitBounce – Email paywall that lets you get paid to receive marketing emails

I have been working in anti-spam since 2003. BitBounce will fail just like GoodMail and Habeas before them. Why? Because marketers won’t pay to reach your inbox when they know it won’t improve their conversion rate. And after all, the email’s purpose is to convert actual business; not just to reach your eyeballs.<p>What value is there in my newsletter or advertisement reaching you if it’s not appealing enough that you would want to receive it anyhow? And if you wanted to receive it, then that probably means it wouldn’t have been blocked by the spam filter.<p>In fact, all modern spam filters work on the premise that email has value if the end user interacts with it materially. Spam and low grade marketing receives very little interaction; this is why it is rejected.<p>The BitBounce guys are burning crypto hype. When that runs out, they will join the pile.

I don&#x27;t get it.<p>Why would anyone comply with this system and pay for their messages to be delivered? So long as nobody is using it (which is the current state of affairs), users of this system will see all their email, legitimate or not, ending up in the &quot;unpaid&quot; box, and nothing is accomplished.<p>I&#x27;m reminded of the famous old &quot;Your post advocates a ____ solution to fighting spam&quot; form-letter. This proposal checks quite a few of its boxes.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;craphound.com&#x2F;spamsolutions.txt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;craphound.com&#x2F;spamsolutions.txt</a>

Yet another Final Ultimate Solution to the Spam Problem (FUSSP) [0].<p>The ol&#x27; &quot;form letter&quot; [1] still makes me laugh every time I see it.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rhyolite.com&#x2F;anti-spam&#x2F;you-might-be.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rhyolite.com&#x2F;anti-spam&#x2F;you-might-be.html</a><p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dmuth.org&#x2F;fussp&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dmuth.org&#x2F;fussp&#x2F;</a>

We have a service that gets slammed by bitbounce messages requesting us to pay and I make sure to mark every single one as spam which shows why this won’t work.<p>I can’t be the only one doing that.

So why would advertisers pay for this? Surely people will sign up for thousands of email accounts, subscribe them all to every mailing list, then collect free money?<p>Back when there were “get paid to view ads” toolbars, they wee full of intrusive code that would ensure that you are looking at the ads and not just leaving your computer running unattended. I don’t think this will fly for email, so fraud would be rampant

I was actually quite excited until the &quot;we use our own crytocurrency&quot; part.<p>This seems like an almost trivial service to implement yourself that could use bitcoin, or PayPal.<p>Plus it suffers from the traditional failure of challenge response spam blocking, in that it creates backscatter from spammers falsifying their &quot;from&quot; address.

I posted on a Google forum recently and got two BitBounce replies in an hour, presumably from users autosubscribed to new threads. I&#x27;m going to need to start blocking all replies with the BitBounce template.

I love never emailing anyone that signs up to my list with a bitbounce email. I&#x27;m not going to incentivize fake users signing up on mechanical turk to pollute my db.

This idea has merit, advertisers pay for access to our lives every which way from Sunday - except for email. But this will not be the solution.<p>Execution matters and it looks like the company is shutting down or close to it.<p>The ceo&#x27;s twitter feed is, umm, interesting. Looks like he recently fled the US to the UK because running a business in the US was too hard and one can only assume the sec is on their heels. He also tweets about going through divorce with his co-founder and making layoffs.<p>According to Alexa, their website traffic has dropped from top 11k to 49k site in the last 90 days alone (that&#x27;s all Alexa rankings show).<p>Someone mentioned it being an ICO, their ICO funds (yay for blockchain wallets being public) are basically empty after raising $12million two years ago.

Isn&#x27;t it the same thing that earn.com does? Plus you get a chance to read the entire email?

I sometimes work on the tech support side and I love when people email in, I respond with the answer, only to have my email come back with BitBounce. The really great part is when they are all upset that they haven&#x27;t received an answer.

Great idea! I really wanted to use this...but then I dug into how it worked.<p>You have to use their Credo cryptocurrency to get your email through &#x2F; you receive Credo when someone pays. Which no one has and no one should have. They probably take a fee on every payment.<p>Once you get Credo you probably want to exchange it for USD or another crypto that is more broadly used and accepted at other merchants. How do you do that? Through their exchange which they take a .25% fee to buy sell.<p>So they double dip on a micropayment of a few cents.<p>I wonder which part of this enterprise will survive in the long run...the email service or the exchange or neither once the ICO money runs out

Facebook, of course, has blocked the ability to post a link to this site.

Good luck getting critical emails or confirmation emails

I like this idea. I set my price to a dollar. If you care enough to pay me to see your ad, I&#x27;d watch it.

Offtopic, kudos for linking „featured at” banners to actual mentions. I wish more landing pages did that.<p>I don’t like the product, although I like non-crypto parts of the concept. I might like a self-contained version of it that worked on whitelists and email filtering rules.

This is such a dumb service. Emails just get unsubscribed or reported as spam.

This reminds me of how Twitch streamers filter viewer comments.<p>Many streamers set up a system where you can pay for your message to be guaranteed read by them or even published on screen for everyone.

Total scam. On what planet does letting a dubious company hijack your email service and demand money from anyone who sends you an email count as a reasonable product? Dubious excuse to create an ICO at the expense of exploiting people&#x27;s greed - a greed that will never be rewarded.<p>That&#x27;s without even considering how fundamental the flaws are in paying people to receive marketing

&gt; businesses who what to reach you<p>This typo is in the first paragraph on your website. The very first paragraph.

This has very little to do with email. They basically just pay you to view ads.<p>Things like this have existed forever and you don’t your own custom cryptocurrency to facilitate it.

first sentence gotta typo? &quot;BitBounce is an email paywall that blocks spam and lets you get paid to receive marketing emails from businesses who <i>what</i> to reach you.&quot;

&gt; BitBounce ... who _what_ to reach you.<p>A typo there.

It should be possible for the viewer to select a different dollar rate , everyone&#x27;s time has a different value, so it makes sense to read only the emails who are willing to pay you for your time to acknowledge their offer.<p>*Outside of the personal relationship