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What3words divides the world into squares, each with a unique three-word address

19 点作者 JonoBB超过 5 年前

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mfontani超过 5 年前
Oh dear...<p>* earthquakes and the like _shift locations_ on the crust. The &quot;w3w&quot; address you had for your house isn&#x27;t at that &quot;w3w&quot; address anymore since that last big quake. Reprint stationery?<p>* no translation between the English w3w and the Spanish, French, Italian, what-have-you. They&#x27;re different words altogether. No back and forth.<p>* It&#x27;s not open<p>* if one needs a DATA CONNECTION to find out their current w3w address, they can damn well find the GPS coordinates, too. As a bonus, they don&#x27;t need a data connection to do that...<p>See also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shkspr.mobi&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;why-bother-with-what-three-words&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shkspr.mobi&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;why-bother-with-what-three-...</a>
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Freak_NL超过 5 年前
Just a proprietary algorithm looking for public problems it can claim to solve. Oppose it or just ignore it. There are open solutions that do similar things.<p>See previous discussions on HN for more background. Their one success story is how they managed to get the Mongolian postal services to adopt their tool.<p>Can you imagine someone lost on a mountain side telling the emergency operator that he is located at &#x27;snake.apple.dimwit&#x27; and getting asked to please just give coordinates or even a rough idea of where you might be in terms of local names, because the What3Wordsⓒ database is down?
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why-oh-why超过 5 年前
How many times is this gonna be posted? It’s basically spam at this point. Don’t use proprietary solutions to already-freely-solved problems
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stefco_超过 5 年前
Others have pointed out many weaknesses of this product already, but one seemingly annoying issue is homophones in the context of verbally communicating your location. They use a 40k word dictionary; surely there are tons of homophones in there. And there are surely more homophones outside the dictionary (which would just give an error when queried through their API).<p>When you call some delivery service and ask them to find you at course.serial.flower, they could end up querying one of:<p><pre><code> - coarse.serial.flower - course.cereal.flower - course.serial.flour - coarse.cereal.flower - coarse.serial.flour - course.cereal.flour - coarse.cereal.flour </code></pre> If these homophones are used in the dictionary, the other person will get an effectively random location on earth. If the homophones are not in the dictionary, they will get no result from the API.<p>In practice, you&#x27;ll either need to be extra careful about specifying locations this way, or you&#x27;ll need to provide extra location data like zip&#x2F;city&#x2F;etc. as error-correcting code. But at that point, it seems like you&#x27;re not much better off than you would be with conventional addresses or LAT&#x2F;LON coordinates for common use cases.
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pepper_sauce超过 5 年前
The UK already has a well known system of coordinates called the British National Grid (BNG). You&#x27;d be hard pressed to find a map printed in the last ~80 years that doesn&#x27;t have BNG coordinates in it.<p>Replacing it with a new proprietary, closed system that can only be accessed from app is a terrible idea.
andylynch超过 5 年前
This got me thinking- even though we now have Advanced Mobile Location rolling out in the EU, UK, and US, it would be a win if your phone could show your location (grid reference&#x2F;lat long) when making an emergency call - AML will pick this up and send it automatically, but this could be a good fallback and timesaver.
reustle超过 5 年前
Reposting my comment from the duplicate earlier:<p>Reminder that you should avoid what3words. Still unfortunate that some governments fell into using them.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shkspr.mobi&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;why-bother-with-what-three-..." rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shkspr.mobi&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;why-bother-with-what-three-...</a>.<p>&gt; The algorithm used to generate the words is proprietary. You are not allowed to see it. You cannot find out your location without asking W3W for permission.<p>&gt; If you want permission, you have to agree to some pretty long terms and conditions. And understand their privacy policy. Oh, and an API agreement. And then make sure you don&#x27;t infringe their patents.<p>&gt; You cannot store locations. You have to let them analyse the locations you look up. Want to use more than 10,000 addresses? Contact them for prices!
newsbinator超过 5 年前
I&#x27;m concerned that I selected English (US) as my language, whereas English (UK) might have a completely different set of words.<p>Emergency services would have to be using the same flavor of English as the victim.
mruts超过 5 年前
Uhh, okay. This is already a solved problem, it’s called GPS. I can see this would be useful as an address system, but using it for the police to find you? Doesn’t make much sense.
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jlawson超过 5 年前
A lot of people seem to be down on this, citing GPS and other traditional numeric systems.<p>But I think this is much better for police specifically. For reasons that are not about data or systems so much as physical practicality.<p>Consider circumstances like these: A panicked hairdresser lost in the forest. An old person with progressing dementia; forgot where they were. A kidnapped child trapped in a room or locked in a car. Anyone in a burning building who can smell smoke. Try any of these situations when the cellphone is at 5%, or when the call keeps dropping, or when you can barely hear because it&#x27;s so loud, or barely see, or you&#x27;re drunk, your hand is broken, you&#x27;re on drugs, you&#x27;re dehydrated, you&#x27;re hypothermic, you&#x27;re bleeding, you&#x27;re surrounded by buzzing insects...<p>Now think about the physical practicalities of a numbers system like GPS. To use any numerical system, you&#x27;re talking about <i>memorizing</i> a string of eight or ten digits off one app and then reading them into a phone call. Yes, it may be possible to go on speaker and minimize the call app (if nobody is hunting you) but lots of people can&#x27;t figure that out on their best day, much less in life-threatening situations. You have to be able to memorize it when you&#x27;re afraid of death or shivering in the cold outside. Maybe the call gets disconnected and you have to go back, oh shit I closed the app, what was the number, oh I mixed up some numbers near the end, oh my god....<p>Almost anyone can remember three words without trying. A child can do it and my grandma can do it. Even if you get disconnected, it won&#x27;t be hard to remember the words even minutes later. You can&#x27;t miss a number, you can&#x27;t transpose the numbers by accident because if you make a mistake it&#x27;ll be obvious since the words aren&#x27;t adjacent in the grid (for this reason). It&#x27;s incredibly practical for the physical and mental constraints of a police situation, and that&#x27;s why they use it.
FartyMcFarter超过 5 年前
Have operators implemented things like Android ELS?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;crisisresponse.google&#x2F;emergencylocationservice&#x2F;how-it-works&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;crisisresponse.google&#x2F;emergencylocationservice&#x2F;how-i...</a>
tomhoward超过 5 年前
Discussed on HN when launched 5 years ago...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8614198" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8614198</a>
chrischen超过 5 年前
So one of the main criticisms is that there is no need for this to be a proprietary thing rather than an open standard. So, why hasn&#x27;t someone made an open DB of 3 words?
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nathanaldensr超过 5 年前
This company is still around? Amazing.