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Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music

286 点作者 1f97将近 6 年前

23 条评论

lukey_q将近 6 年前
Oh my gosh, I clicked expecting to see the classic old version... this is an updated one!! It looks like this one even shows the progression of the sound of a genre or subgenre over time, not just the other genres that came from it.<p>Forgive my excitement but damn, the original guide was an absolute treasure of the early (at least for me) internet, and as a teenager getting into electronic music but with no real local scene or context for any of this stuff to say it was eye-opening is an understatement. Find a song or genre you liked (for me it was early French Touch&#x2F;filter house) and you could see similar genres, plus what inspired it and what it inspired. And back then if you weren&#x27;t familiar with this stuff everything with electronic drums or synths was lumped into &quot;techno&quot; (remember Eminem&#x27;s infamous line about that) so it was great to figure out the actual names of the genres and subgenres I was into so I could dig deeper. Shout out to Ishkur, I&#x27;m obviously thrilled to see this today.
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bigiain将近 6 年前
Some of these genre descriptions are _awesome!_ - th9s is from the LiquidFunk subgenre of Drum n Bass:<p>&quot;Just before the turn of the millenium is when a sufficient number of white people were attending Jungle parties to the point where music writers and magazines stopped calling it Jungle and rebranded it Drum n Bass, although the partykids retained the label &quot;junglists&quot; and they&#x27;re still called that today (probably because &quot;drumnbassists&quot; isn&#x27;t as catchy).<p>Not coincidentally this is also the point where the two-step drum kick takes over everything, ushering in an age of mediocrity for a scene that was once specifically noted for its unique and inventive drum programming. You might as well call this Disco n Bass.<p>As if things couldn&#x27;t get any worse for Disco n Bass, the lucrative opportunity of mad festival money in the 2010s compelled it to whore itself into a subgenre depository of shitty pop remixes heretofore known as Dancefloor. If you hear a Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift or even Adele remix with a powerful Pendulum two-step drum kick, it&#x27;s technically Dancefloor: The end game of pop music trendwhore oblivion. &quot;
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dukeofharen将近 6 年前
Yes, finally! Ishkur&#x27;s original guide and Listology&#x27;s Darktremor&#x27;s top 400 trance list and Dazzamack&#x27;s top 1000 EDM lists are what really got me into electronic music!<p>I&#x27;m kinda bummed out right now that listology.com doesn&#x27;t exist anymore :(<p>EDIT: For anyone interested, at the time, I downloaded both Darktremor&#x27;s and Dazzamack&#x27;s lists. You can find them here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;dukeofharen&#x2F;48450ec07254f82c7a9b5d77ee2bebf5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;dukeofharen&#x2F;48450ec07254f82c7a9b5d77...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;dukeofharen&#x2F;fff467f6fc7574864358f9974d61ab0c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;dukeofharen&#x2F;fff467f6fc7574864358f997...</a><p>I&#x27;ve downloaded a few other lists from Listology as well (progressive trance, classic trance, best albums etc.). If anyone is interested, I could add these to Github Gist as well.
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DanAtC将近 6 年前
Wow. 20 years in the making.<p>Be sure to check out his 15-hour, 3.5 decade-spanning mix <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;Ishkur23&#x2F;status&#x2F;1163294742949445632" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;Ishkur23&#x2F;status&#x2F;11632947429494456...</a>
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easymodex将近 6 年前
From the comments I was expecting a really cool site with a lot of knowledge, but so far all I&#x27;ve seen is genre bashing. Since this is supposedly a general guide on all electronic music, it&#x27;s really unfortunate they need to convey their negative opinions on everything that isn&#x27;t their genre of choice. Either Ishkur is getting old and resentful or we live on completely opposite sites of music taste.
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creatonez将近 6 年前
This is missing all of the post-2011 dubstep subgenre stuff.<p>If you search &quot;melodic dubstep&quot; or &quot;chillstep&quot; there&#x27;s lots of relatively popular post-2011 stuff that&#x27;s way more tasteful for a mass audience than skrillex.<p>But that&#x27;s just one branch. The other major branch is called &quot;freeform bass&quot; or sometimes &quot;spacebass&quot;. Certain bass music (post-2016?) no longer has a clear genre definition, so we&#x27;ve literally adopted the term &quot;freeform bass&quot;. A lot of it is pretty good. But some of it overlaps with brostep&#x2F;riddim.
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unixhero将近 6 年前
Whoa version 3?!?!?!?!?!?<p>Secretary; Cancel all my calls for today.<p>I have been waiting for this since what, 2003? He said it would cost him an arm and a leg, by the time elapsed since that statement, I guess it did! I assumed he had lost interest in this project, but no. Thanks Ishkur!!!
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ethbro将近 6 年前
Does anyone have a donation link?<p>It&#x27;d be nice to chip something in for the work + streaming to the entire internet right now.
noelwelsh将近 6 年前
Does the author actually like any music? So far every description I&#x27;ve read tells me that the music is either pretentious or a sell-out. ¯\_(ツ)_&#x2F;¯<p>Although this looks like a lot of work, a more positive guide would be vastly more useful. Help me find the best of a genre, rather than telling me it all devolved in trash. My metric so far is that if it&#x27;s labelled pretentious I&#x27;ll probably like it.
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EdwardDiego将近 6 年前
&gt; Cybergoths: What happens when you take the stock Rivethead look and add Steampunk, mecha anime, and The Predator.<p>Love it!
proverbialbunny将近 6 年前
Pretty neat, but it&#x27;s missing some important genres. eg, lounge music is quite possibly the first popular electronic music genre from the 40s and 50s, yet it&#x27;s not mentioned.<p>Also, I&#x27;m surprised by the lack of newer genres.
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pgt将近 6 年前
This Electro Tech Tree is greatly welcomed only 5 days after I lamented the lack of electronic music on the Psytrance Guide[^1] :).<p>Where is progressive melodic techno, though? E.g. Atlas (Adriatique Remix) by Romboy &amp; Bodzin <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Gq4NSDcbmsI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Gq4NSDcbmsI</a><p>I wish the text was searchable using my in-browser search.<p>- [^1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20695334" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20695334</a>
wyclif将近 6 年前
The Brostep entry alone is worth visiting the site to read.
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unicornporn将近 6 年前
I remember using this in the very early 2000. I made electronic music myself, and it functioned as a sort of mashup between Wikipedia and the recommendations at Spotify. I remember browsing the genres, getting some recommendation and searching for the files on Soulseek. When I found the files I could browse all the files of the user that shared them and often find similar acts. Lovely times. Still have the files, btw. :-)
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MrsPeaches将近 6 年前
Definitely worth checking out the chiptune entry, goes into a fair bit of detail on making music using early sound generation chips used in NES etc.
AAM2RF将近 6 年前
Wow, just when I thought this wouldn&#x27;t release, because of The Longplay. This guide is amazingly detailed, Ishkur outdid himself
JulianMorrison将近 6 年前
Why so little after 2000? Too close to see what&#x27;s going to matter? Or has musical creativity stalled?
bartread将近 6 年前
I first discovered this in 2009 when it still needed Flash (for obvious reasons). A fantastic resource, and really pleased to see it updated for the modern web. Great work (again!), Ishkur!
mankeysee将近 6 年前
Fucking modern web dev piece of shit where you can&#x27;t even ctrl+F among the big list to find what you were seeking. Guess at least it covers a decent breadth of styles.
justaj将近 6 年前
I really don&#x27;t like the way the expanded info alters my scrolling behavior.
RantyDave将近 6 年前
Whoa, <i>great</i> upgrade.
gingabriska将近 6 年前
I am interested in producing music but is there any book which can you teach you from scratch.
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marble-drink将近 6 年前
Wow... I&#x27;ve been waiting for this for over 10 years now. The previous version was an example of a loss when Flash started to die. Since I don&#x27;t install Flash any more I&#x27;ve been unable to use it. So glad to see it back.