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Survival of the Richest (2018)

65 点作者 algui91将近 6 年前

15 条评论

paganel将近 6 年前
Iain Duncan Smith, former Tory secretary for Work and Pensions in the UK, has just suggested that the retirement age should be increased to 75. Problem is that in places like Glasgow men have a life expectancy of 73, so the majority of them are expected to work till they die. If this isn't class warfare and "survival of the richest" I don't what else is.
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seren将近 6 年前
&gt; The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers — if that technology could be developed in time.<p>From the 1950s to today, it means that in mere 60 years, the optimistic view on the future has done a full U turn, and now everyone is believing we are headed for the worst (maybe with good reasons). Still this is such a radical change, in such a short time frame.
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hyperpallium将近 6 年前
I think this is fiction.<p>We have lived in a creator-based morality ever since behavioural modernity (50-70,000 years ago). Teaching, trading, inventing, etc - because two heads (perspectives) are better than one. Small, isolated societies stagnate. Over time, &quot;societies&quot; have grown larger, more open, more inclusive.<p>Over time, the larger open society beats the small closed one. (even if that larger group isn&#x27;t recognized as a &quot;society&quot;, it need only communicate, share ideas and build on them).<p>So we needn&#x27;t fear a tiny billionaire society, even with a head start (at least, not in the long term...).<p>&gt; What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader?<p>Historically, this is a hard problem (<i>et tu, Brutus?</i>). It&#x27;s easy to keep the masses in check; just create a &quot;nobility&quot; who also benefit from subjugation, all the way down. Resource them, health, education, training, armoury. Propaganda that they are better (fairy tales, clothes, etc). But hard to be safe in that inner circle... Power is a problem.<p>&gt; if they can’t get a seat on the rocket to Mars.<p>After the worst possible imaginable apocalypse, Earth will still be far more habitable than Mars.
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pfdietz将近 6 年前
Reminded of this classic Bob, The Angry Flower: Atlas Shrugged, One Hour Later.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;angryflower.com&#x2F;348.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;angryflower.com&#x2F;348.html</a>
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PorterDuff将近 6 年前
My guess is that the article is fiction, or a highly modified version of the truth to make some point.<p>It is interesting to think about societies that can handle strong shock. Looking back, my guess is that the modern West doesn&#x27;t have that capability built in. A proven model is one of a very strong hierarchy (monarchy perhaps) with strong social glue.<p>That isn&#x27;t to say that you shouldn&#x27;t go on extended vacation at your estate in Spain when a slave rebellion starts up near your place in Capua.
ciconia将近 6 年前
I think the article hits the nail on the head. The problem with climate change and the threat to humankind is not about technology, nor politics.<p>It&#x27;s about values. It&#x27;s about consciousness. It&#x27;s about understanding that we humans are still a part of nature, not apart from nature.
basicplus2将近 6 年前
Alternate fee free<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;07&#x2F;11&#x2F;survival-of-the-richest-the-wealthy-are-plotting-to-leave-us-behind.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;07&#x2F;11&#x2F;survival-of-the-richest-the-...</a>
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motohagiography将近 6 年前
Not sure what are they so worried about. Las Vegas exists in an environment totally dependent on the outside. Paying guards is trivial when you pay them out of providing another service.<p>If they were actually in a bunker because of nuclear fallout, just be the guy with the promises a few can believe in, and use them to keep the others in line. It&#x27;s not a few guards with guns that keep prisoners the world over from revolting, it&#x27;s hope.
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kalado将近 6 年前
I guess it&#x27;s nice to know that these super rich guys think about exactly the same stuff as I do when I&#x27;m taking a stroll.
pojzon将近 6 年前
This is a really good article. I fail to understand why it does not create huge discussion forum on HN where people seem to actively promote climate change discussions.<p>Because its an old article ?
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chasd00将近 6 年前
eh saying the &quot;others&quot; are the enemy is as old as civilization. If you think people wealthier than you are the enemy just wait until you hear about people less wealthy than you.
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teekert将近 6 年前
If you even think thoughts like &quot;... making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival&quot; you are unworthy of your wealth in my eyes. Apparently they are also unworthy in their own eyes, I mean they have very little faith in their ability to reason with people and get a fair (micro) economy going based on fair capitalistic principles without any coercion of free minds. These are not people you want around when rebuilding society and not people that have an intrinsic feeling for the &quot;golden rule&quot;. I have the feeling the author met a particular small group of rich sociopaths. I wouldn&#x27;t want to insult any social rich people by grouping them with this kind actually.<p>In any case, someone will kill you while you are putting that collar on someone else.
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Kecelij将近 6 年前
Tell me, how does one get 85k claps on medium?
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BrendanD将近 6 年前
eat the rich
yellowstuff将近 6 年前
I can&#x27;t defend billionaires proposing having their employees wear shock collars, but I still think the article is unfair in 2 important ways.<p>1) The capitalism he decries is making the poorest people in the world much, much better off. Here&#x27;s life expectancy: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;life-expectancy-globally-since-1770" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;life-expectancy-globally-...</a>, but if that doesn&#x27;t appeal to you there are lots of other L-shaped charts showing good things happening in poor places in the last 50 years. There&#x27;s an argument that middle class people in wealthy places are worse off today over the last 50 years, but there is not a credible argument that poor people are.<p>2) I completely understand the discomfort of being around billionaires speculating about how to save themselves when everything goes to hell, but it doesn&#x27;t mean they want or expect things to go to hell. Investors are trained to think about the effects of plausible worst case scenarios, separately from considering probabilities. If you have a billion dollars it may be worth spending a million dollars preparing for societal collapse, even if that&#x27;s a very unlikely outcome. The sad fact is that societal collapse is normal in human history- most currency that&#x27;s ever existed has become worthless, most governments that have formed no longer exist. Rich countries since 1950 are an exception to this rule, but accepting that it&#x27;s possible they will collapse doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s any more likely now than it was 50 years ago. I think a billionaire spending some time thinking about how he would handle societal collapse is reasonable, even though focusing only on their individual survival rather than how they could help society is not especially admirable.