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Ask HN: Let's make an open source/free SaaS platform to tackle school forms

12 点作者 busymichael超过 5 年前
I have 4 kids. I am filling out all the start of school forms for each kid. I have to fill out these same forms each year. Are you doing the same thing? Let&#x27;s make this year the last year we are manually filling out forms -- let&#x27;s build a SaaS platform for school forms. Community built, open-sourced, free.<p>Brief sketch of the idea: survey monkey + docusign, but with a 100 pre-built templates for K-12 school situations. Medical emergency form. Carpool form. Field trip permission form. Backend gives schools an easy way to customize and track forms. Forms are emailed to parents and filled out online. Parent&#x27;s information is saved so that any new form is pre-filled in with as much known info as possible.<p>Anyone feeling the same pain? Anyone want to join with me and do it?

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codingdave超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been developing apps for the school systems for years now. There are existing systems that can handle their forms. The tech isn&#x27;t the problem. Implementation, and making it easy for all levels of staff in a district to use are the challenges you would need to resolve. Sending papers home with kids and getting completed papers back is archaic and unreliable... but easy on teachers.<p>Also, keep in mind that not all families have computers. Not all parents have email. A solution that doesn&#x27;t work for the low income, or homeless children, is a non-starter.<p>The idea is good... I&#x27;m not trying to discourage it. Just that the problems that need solved likely are not what you think they are.
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bifrost超过 5 年前
Oh man, I&#x27;m in the midst of some of this right now. Theres no dowloadable form for certain things because they want it on identical sizes and types of paper... I have terrible handwriting and its killing me.
badrabbit超过 5 年前
For work stuff,docusign already solves this. Why are schools not on docusign? Budgets? For the same reason they may not subscribe to your potential startup?
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tmaly超过 5 年前
Sort of, my daughters school just needs the tech help. A solid online FAQ that is maintained would be more valuable to me
westurner超过 5 年前
Technically, a checkbox may qualify as a digital signature; however, identification &#x2F; authentication and storage integrity are fairly challengeable (just as a written signature on a piece of paper with a date written on it is challengeable)<p>Given that notarization is not required for parental consent forms, I&#x27;m not sure what sort of server security expense is justified or feasible.<p>How much does processing all of the paper forms cost each school? Per-student?<p>In terms of storing digital record of authorization, a private set of per-student OpenBadges with each OpenBadge issued by the school would be easy enough. W3C Verified Claims (and Linked Data Signatures) are the latest standards for this sort of thing.<p>We could evaluate our current standards for chain of custody in regards to the level of trust we place in commercial e-signature platforms.<p>The school could send home a sheet with a QR code and a shorturl, but that would be more expensive than running hundreds of copies of the same sheet of paper.<p>The school could require a parent or guardian&#x27;s email address for each student in the SIS Student Information System and email unique links to prefilled forms requesting authorization(s).<p>Just as with e-Voting, assuring that the person who checks a checkbox or tries to scribble their signature with a mouse or touchscreen is the authorized individual may be more difficult than verifying that a given written signature is that of the parent or guardian authorized to authorize.<p>AFAIU, Google Forms for School can include the logged-in user&#x27;s username; but parents don&#x27;t have school domain accounts with Google Apps for Education or Google Classroom.<p>How would the solution integrate with schools&#x27; existing SIS (Student Information Systems)? Upload a CSV of (student, {student info}, {guardian email (s)})? This is private information that deserves security, which costs money.<p>Which users can log-in for the school and&#x2F;or district to check the state of the permission &#x2F; authorization requests and PII personally-identifiable information.<p>While cryptographic signatures may be overkill as a substitute for permission slips, FWIW, a timestamp within a cryptographically-signed document only indicates what the local clock was set to at the time. Blockchains have relatively indisputable timestamps (&quot;certainly no later than the time that the tx made it into a block&quot;), but blockchains don&#x27;t solve for proving the key-person relation at a given point in time.<p>And also, my parent or guardian said you can take me on field trips if you want. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;backpack.openbadges.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;backpack.openbadges.org&#x2F;</a>
billconan超过 5 年前
why not google form?
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