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3.8M-year-old skull of an early ape-like human ancestor discovered in Ethiopia

296 点作者 iamben将近 6 年前

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dalbasal将近 6 年前
&gt;The reason for this likely elevated status is because we can now say that anamensis and afarensis actually overlapped in time.<p>This seems to be the rule, rather than the other exception, at least in human evolution. Erectus overlapped with more modern archaics, for example. Habilis overlapped with afarensis.<p>A lot of these are more about the semantics than the substance. Words like &quot;species&quot; get tricky, when you&#x27;re dealing with chronspecies, introgression and such.<p>In any case, our evolution since speciating from chimps is extremely bushy. There are lots of species, and several families. The process involved lots of innovation&#x2F;speciation and extinctions. Ie, The australopithecine family that this species may have founded produced many species, including at least two that formed their own families with multiple species of their own (paranthropous &amp; homo).<p>I think this is characteristic of fast evolutionary processes.
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TBurette将近 6 年前
Regarding the multiple human ancestors aspect, here is an diagram of human species or groups if you want to avoid the &quot;what is a species discussion&quot; : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;AfrYjqF" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;AfrYjqF</a> It is from a recent symposium [1] on human evolution The vertical axis is the age. The horizontal axis represent the geographical spread and the color represents the continent.<p>We can see multiples things:<p>- Disregard the 2010, it is indeed up-to-date. These past few years new bars have been added regularly.<p>- A single homo species is a new development and is an exception and not the rule<p>- Not only did different species live at the same time they sometimes lived in the same places<p>- There is no edges between the groups to represent ancestors as a simple &quot;single ancestor&quot; link is not easy to establish.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.college-de-france.fr&#x2F;media&#x2F;jean-jacques-hublin&#x2F;UPL4439769573810557760_Jean_Jacques_HUBLIN___colloque_juin_2019.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.college-de-france.fr&#x2F;media&#x2F;jean-jacques-hublin&#x2F;U...</a>
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vanderZwan将近 6 年前
The impression I got from a recent PBS Eons video on the non-existing missing link[0] is that interbreeding happened all the time and that a very realistic possibility for the answer is <i>&quot;most, possibly all of them&quot;</i>.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=pwW40Dj5Sro" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=pwW40Dj5Sro</a>
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throw0101a将近 6 年前
How do {archaeologists?, paleoanthropologists?} even know where to look for these things?<p>&quot;There&#x27;s a whole bunch of land, let&#x27;s dig... [throws dart at map] here.&quot;
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vfc1将近 6 年前
Why does it have to be only one ancestor ape, and not several that evolved human-like features simultaneously in the same environment?<p>We have Neanderthal DNA, that we inherited through interbreeding.<p>Why can&#x27;t both we and the Neanderthals be descendent from a varied group of very similar apes that interbred as well? Isn&#x27;t this the most likely scenario?<p>Sometimes I think scientists fall for the same simplistic patterns of thinking that the men on the street fall for every day.<p>Like, there is only one solution, there is only one cause, there is only one reason, when in fact reality is much more complex than that.
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dahves将近 6 年前
Prof Haile-Selassie? Is Haile-Selassie a common last name or has he anything to do with the other Haile Selassie?
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ojosilva将近 6 年前
&gt; The truth is far more complex and far more interesting. It tells a story of evolution &quot;trying out&quot; different &quot;prototype&quot; human ancestors in different places until some of them were resilient and clever enough to withstand the pressures wrought by changes in climate, habitat and food scarcity - and evolve into us.<p>To me this is the gist of the article as well of the stream of recent discoveries and papers released. It&#x27;s also a pattern that permeates computer science nowadays, applying to different realms, from system design to DevOps to team collaboration.
EL_Loco将近 6 年前
Is there any type of ultrasound-like equipment used by archaeologists that scans below ground and allows some crude-resolution view of whats below?
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kavalg将近 6 年前
I wonder if it is possible to extract some DNA from the artifact and use it for cloning?
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proc0将近 6 年前
Interesting to see the intermediate nose shape as it evolved from ape to human.
Yajirobe将近 6 年前
How did they determine its age?
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eurasiantiger将近 6 年前
Nature be damned, this has hoax written all over it.
paraschopra将近 6 年前
The concept of species is a construct of language.
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cro0o将近 6 年前
Sure, this isn’t a popular opinion around here but I find all of these theories such nonsense. Creationism, to me, is a lot kore logical than a random big bang - fast fwd apes &#x2F; fast fwd humans. So many random events with hardly any logic attached to it. Humans have grown to be so full of themselves, especially in this tech age, where a lot of us find it hard to believe there’s a more intelligent being out there that could have placed us here in the first place. Human arrogance is destroying us from the inside.
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kwonkicker将近 6 年前
What bugs me is the concept of &quot;one point origin&quot;. Are we even exploring different angles? Also, how a 4m year old bone is so prestine? African ancestory hoaxes are so common that i just read such news for the sake of it. Doesnt chamge anything even if it were true. But i like the idea that we are sobriety special, even tho the opposite is also just as amazing.
TravisCooper将近 6 年前
Evolution is simply not sufficient. Dr. David Gelertner, a CS professor from Yale, penned an essay in May that lays out the high level argument against Darwin&#x2F;Evolution, including references to background material.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.claremont.org&#x2F;crb&#x2F;article&#x2F;giving-up-darwin&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.claremont.org&#x2F;crb&#x2F;article&#x2F;giving-up-darwin&#x2F;</a>
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