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Ask HN: are pwd managers more secure?

1 点作者 fakeElonMusk超过 5 年前
Let's say I use 1password or any other password manager. They will eventually get hacked or there will be a back door or some exploit. Right? All software has vulnerabilities, even the NSA has been hacked. So why is it more secure than me keeping passwords on paper? I would like to use 1password but I'm also ok with staying old school. Convince me!

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Lorenz-Kraft超过 5 年前
Using the &quot;paper form&quot; has only the drawback of being available for everyone in your environment.<p>If you want to keep the paper form and also have the ability to securely generate new passwords:<p>Buy a cheap, widely, available book (maybe two or three of the same), start at a random page and use the first letters&#x2F;sentences in this book as your new password. To make it even more secure, I would suggest you add a &quot;standard&quot; to every password you have created ... like &quot;SuperSecurePa##&quot;.<p>So for example: You have bought a book and like to add a new password ... you might start at page one, where the sentence would be: &quot;Once upon a time, there were two developers ...&quot; =&gt; this will become your password: &quot;Ouat,twtdSuperSecurePa##&quot;<p>Even more secure password (due to the size): &quot;Onceuponatime,thereweretwodevelopersSuperSecurePa##&quot;<p>You can level this up by: - Your chosen appendix has even more &quot;secure&quot; chars, like #*+?=&quot;§%&amp;&#x2F;() (you know what I mean) - You prepend and append your new password with your &quot;common&quot; pass (here &quot;SuperSecurePa##&quot;) ... or maybe prepend with a different common pass??
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t0astbread超过 5 年前
I use password managers for the following reasons:<p>- Convenience: I only have to remember one password and I get the comfort of a digital database (as opposed to, paper).<p>- The passwords I have on websites can have higher entropy and be longer than I could ever remember or type, making them possibly harder to decipher in case of a breach on any website.<p>- Password managers are all about security while many websites are not (at least not as their primary purpose). Password managers are probably better at it.<p>- If a (good) password manager is set up to sync passwords via a server or your machine somehow gets compromised, the password database should still be encrypted via a master password.
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antisemiotic超过 5 年前
You can use a local password manager like pwsafe, that way someone would have to hack into your computers first, and then break pwsafe&#x27;s encryption (which is of course impossible, since it was written by Bruce Schneier).<p>It&#x27;s more of a pain to use than web password managers, but less than a piece of paper. I&#x27;d still recommend writing down the master password, since if you lose it you&#x27;re screwed.
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shrutipathak超过 5 年前
You could lose the piece of paper making all your passwords vulnerable. My colleague stored all passwords on a note in the phone and lost the phone on vacation.<p>I had to change all the passwords immediately because of this. Even if i have 1Password on the lost phone, i don&#x27;t see how anyone could get inside of it
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