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OR Union Wants Voters to Limit Grocers to Two Self-Checkout Stations per Store

26 点作者 marklyon超过 5 年前

9 条评论

gnusty_gnurc超过 5 年前
I wonder whether people complained about "harm to the community" when automobiles came on the scene. The poor horse-and-buggy drivers!
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mikestew超过 5 年前
Same folks that won’t let you pump your own gas. At least motorcycles are exempt from that silliness now.
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seiko988超过 5 年前
There&#x27;s a few articles floating around that say shoplifting is greater at self checkouts[1], but apparently its not enough to keep these jobs around without regulatory distortion.<p>One way of thinking about it is that the store shifts responsibility to both the shopper and the police (in the case of shoplifting) but the police might not agree to the additional workload [2]<p>1 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;stealing-from-self-checkout&#x2F;550940&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;stealin...</a><p>2 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;05&#x2F;14&#x2F;shoplifting-california-prop-47-reduced-penalties&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;05&#x2F;14&#x2F;shoplifting-cal...</a>
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jmathai超过 5 年前
I purposely checkout with human cashiers despite the fact that self-checkout is almost always faster.<p>Sometimes technology provides so much benefit that it&#x27;s a no-brainer to adopt. I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s the case for self-checkout stations. They&#x27;re marginally better but come at a cost that I don&#x27;t believe is worth it.<p>A single self-checkout station probably replaces 2 cashiers. Not to mention they take up less space. It makes a lot of sense for the store owners but I don&#x27;t think it makes much sense for the community.
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lidHanteyk超过 5 年前
As an Oregonian, I&#x27;m not bothered by this.<p>As it is, grocers typically have to have a single person at the helm of each bank of four to six machines. The machines are prone to requiring manual overrides, and often the single machine-herder is overwhelmed trying to keep up; I hear their grumbles. I find myself examining my basket while heading towards checkout and considering whether I think that a human cashier would give a smoother experience.<p>Moreover, whether grocers have these machines is usually a function of their size. Smaller grocers in Oregon, like Green Zebra, don&#x27;t have the machines, while larger grocers do, like Safeway and Walmart. I have had conversations with employees at the latter stores. The machines were ordained, installed, and configured by corporate order, with only a small amount of local training.<p>Oregonian voters have immense power to alter the law, and so many independent groups aim to refer decisions directly to the voters, rather than trying to work within the bipartisan legislature. In this case, the group will have to successfully convince tens of thousands of us to petition the State to put it on the ballot. I will probably sign the petition.<p>I read the text. It&#x27;s not bad. There&#x27;s an exemption for stores which sell only alcohol or only cannabis; liquor stores and dispensaries are a thing in Oregon, but I haven&#x27;t seen any which have automated checkout robots. Indeed, I&#x27;m pretty sure that the liquor law requires humans in that checkout process. While a union is lobbying for this, the union does not stand to directly benefit; its members certainly will, but there&#x27;s nothing that privileges the union, and both anti-union Walmart and employee-owned Winco will have to obey this law.
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nordsieck超过 5 年前
I wonder how this law would interact with a fully automated store like Amazon Go: technically there are no checkout stations, human or otherwise.
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sys_64738超过 5 年前
Various European countries have high unemployment rates in youths which doesn’t do anyone any good at all. That’s where the US is headed as these retail checkout jobs cement societal norms in generations of children. Take them away and who knows how it’ll break down.
loco5niner超过 5 年前
This is beyond ridiculous. It&#x27;s on par with disallowing barcodes so checkers can input them by hand.
samdunham超过 5 年前
Another way to put this is, &quot;OR Union wants to reduce available work for self-checkout maintenance workers.&quot;