Google Needs Sex

Here we see a search engine in his native habitat, foraging the fields of the world wide web for his sustenance, advertising targets. These beautiful lumbering beasts play an important part in the ecosystem, processing great quantities of flora and excreting them into little packets for the creatures further down the chain.<p>Master of his niche and with no natural predators, the mighty search engine's greatest threat is the ongoing habitat destruction by Mankind, as slash and burn development techniques replace the verdant fields of pages with cheap plastic knockoffs and gaudy littering, which the mighty search engine haplessly consumes, but grows fat and slow from gorging on the empty calories. If this practice is not soon ended, the search engines may have to be placed on the endangered species list.<p>But hark! What's that sound? A female search engine in the throes of heat has entered the clearing! Her mating call reaches deep into the soul of the male search engine... "ACK kwire! ACK kwire!" and the male must have her. He unfurls his spectacular page index count to impress the female, and truly this is a virile male, for his index count easily reaches into the trillions! A rare specimen indeed. The female is impressed and approaches the male to exchange their algorithmic details. Soon the deed is done and satiated, the male wanders off in disinterest. Soon four or five baby search engines will be born, each of which to thrive in the harsh environment of the web must eventually kill and consume their parents, a difficult feat that no baby search engine has accomplished in many years, but such is the harsh reality of the untamed wilderness.<p>Tune in next week when we'll follow the adventures of the cutest little baby search engine as he grows, encounters his first clickbot, and acquires his first distracting side business, all before facing his first mortal threat of acquisition by the trophy-seeking megacorporate hunter who wishes to gut the young search engine and turn it into the something to hang on his intranet to impress his fellow megacorporates.

This is quite possibly the dumbest article about technology I've seen in a mainstream publication.<p>What Google <i>really</i> needs is a willingness to accept a way higher threshold of false negatives in weeding out content. I'd love to have a "known good" version of Google that risked leaving out some content. Let's start by banning all .info domains along with any that include a hyphen.

What the author is saying, as I understand it, is that Google needs a way to mix up their algo's so they aren't easily "gamed" by scammers and spammers.<p>The question is not whether Google is doing this actively but how fast and decisively they do this as well as what specific issue they deem as priority to address.<p>Google's algo, as I understand it, is an array of knobs that are turned up and down to increase or decrease impact of various factors such as domain age, incoming links, quality of content, etc. Google is always adjusting these knobs and adding/removing knobs. The goals of adjusting these knobs are obviously only known by Googlers but what is clear to many is that the sole object of adjusting these knobs in not to make the results pages more relevant. Don't get me wrong... they definitely care about relevancy (or they wouldn't have the trust of millions) but they are a public company with obligations to meet so they must take many factors into account when making adjustments.<p>The point? The sex (aka variation over time) that the author refers to will likely come from adjusting existing knobs and introducing new knobs such as social authority, locality, etc... but it doesn't necessarily mean that problems of relevance as we see it will get fixed through these variations. Google will take into account a number of factors when deciding what problems they want to solve and to what extend.<p>&#60;/rambling&#62;

Great headline, crappy article. People have been trying to game search engines since a few minutes after they were invented. And other search engines don't appear to be better, or the market share would have shifted by now. It costs nothing to the consumer to switch, and people talk about which websites they like - so if something that is more appealing to Joe Public comes along, it will be noticed. Bing's ascent in the number of searches has not been huge yet. Personally I hope for more than one search superpower in the future.

One could, in theory, manually create a database of a few million (or way more) websites, and rate the content in each of them (including advertisements - just how the page is showed to the end user). This database could then be used to train algorithms, with genetic fitness based on how close the ratings of the algorithm are to the human ratings of value (note that the algorithms would not be aware of the human value ratings).<p>A second - perhaps slightly smaller - database could then be used to test the performance of the best algorithms in the "real world," or at least on data which they weren't trained on. This would select against algorithms which are adapted solely for the first database. Content ratings generated algorithmically could then be used to modify the ranking of websites in the results, penalizing websites that seem to have bad content.<p>I'm not sure how I got here from thinking about sex between search engines; I suppose it's because one way to deal with the evolution would be taking the best few algorithms each time and combining them (which I'm sure that there are issues with). Of course, people far more intelligent than I have certainly had this idea before, and probably figured out why it wouldn't work (or, alternatively, that it would work, which would suggest that someone is now busy implementing it).

If I was a web search company, I'd allow users to upvote or downvote their search results (this would increase or decrease their prominence on subsequent searches). This could be done on a per-site, or per-page basis.<p>Then I'd use one person's preferences to alter how other people receive search results (on an optional basis; if people didn't want their results filtered like this, they wouldn't have to.)<p>But I wouldn't just use an average of all users; it'd be too easy for spammers to create fake accounts to upvote spam. No, a user's search results would only be affected by what their friends upvote and downvote (or possibly their friends of friends as well).<p>This would make it in a user's interests to link to their friends and have their friends rate websites, as everyone uses web search. So people would want to promote the search engine to their friends.<p>To give people more of an incentive to proselytise the search engine, I'd add social features such as a twitter-like service (allowing public, friends-only, and named-recipients-only messages), chat (text, voice and video-voice), an extended-length messaging service (you could call it, I don't know, a "blog" or something) that also allows pictures, and RSS feeds of one's own and one's friends' public entries.<p>I'd also add a "fan" feature (intransitive, as opposed to friendship which is transitive). People could create lists rating websites, and others could fan those lists.<p>Maybe someone like DuckDuckGo might want to implement something like this?<p>(Incidentally, DDG market themselves as being privacy-friendly, which coupled with the recent subpoena of Wikileaks' Twitter data, suggests there may be an opportunity for a competitor to Twitter that is more privacy-minded).

Google already has "search engine sex", it's called revision control (although I really doubt this is what Krugman had in mind.) To solve Google's spam problem, they either need better business priorities or smarter engineers, depending on which popular explanation of Google's spam problem is accurate.<p>&#62; And the most persuasive answer, as I understand it, is defense against parasites.<p>Probably more likely the general ability to merge in one generation two or more highly advantageous adaptations into one individual, which could include parasite defense but also everything else.

I have been thinking a lot about this problem. If indeed it is a problem.<p>Google is in the business of serving ads. The vast majority of those spammy sites display google ads. So, there is little incentive for google to change things just yet. Joe public is not complaining, yet. It is only the digerati, and a whole bunch of other webmasters who think their sites should be ranking higher because <i>they</i> are just better, who seem to be up in arms over this.<p>The interesting thing is that half the spammy do provide content that is 'just good enough' for what most people are looking for. The quickest exit from one of these sites, is via a google ad, so google wins, the site wins, and the advertiser targetting a specific niche wins.<p>The only problem will be when the advertisisers stop getting the bang for their buck when their ads are displayed on these sites. Until then, Google has little incentive to change.

The author is dead wrong about benefits of sex. The key benefit of sex is the ability to preserve huge gene pool and try out multiple combinations. The battle against parasites does not worth huge reproductive complexity that sex introduces.<p>On the other hand the author is right that Google is inefficient in fighting web spam.

I think he's suggesting a genetic algorithm... Google-style organisms, competing for fewest retried searches, most-different front-page results, etc., that over time merge and split in various ways. Seems pretty similar to some of the tactics Google's already trying to me.

<p><pre><code> I’m not quite sure what search-engine sex would involve. But Google apparently needs some.</code></pre> Wow, Krugman spouts gibberish when he isn't talking specifically about economics. This post is meaningless.

"I’m not quite sure what search-engine sex would involve. But Google apparently needs some."<p>Picture a duck (<a href="http://duckduckgo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://duckduckgo.com/</a>).

Tech journalist to the rescue.

"Why doesn’t nature just engage in cloning?<p>... If each generation of an organism looks exactly like the last, parasites can steadily evolve to bypass the organism’s defenses."<p>Why doesn't nature, indeed?<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction</a>

this article screams of linkbaiting <i>(I guess it worked, it got onto HN and I checked it out)</i>.<p>Author concludes that "Google needs sex" because cloning avoided parasites (not strictly true, but whatever) but then signs off with "I don't know what Google sex looks like".<p>Duh.

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