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Talent is everywhere, opportunity is not

345 点作者 yurisagalov超过 5 年前

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petra超过 5 年前
How many talented people , in advanced economies, with good technical degrees , do take part in inventing important stuff ?<p>Very few.<p>Educating more kids and having more &quot;ideas&quot; won&#x27;t change that.<p>We&#x27;re not lacking ideas. We&#x27;re lacking the right incentives to make ideas happen.
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vinceguidry超过 5 年前
I was talking to someone the other day that boiled it down to &quot;everyone&#x27;s trying to solve their Red Queen problem.&quot; I was unfamiliar, and the Wikipedia page doesn&#x27;t seem to support this reading, but the idea is that everyone&#x27;s running as fast as they can just to stay in place, and the way out is different for every person so no general approach can work for everyone. Any solution will put people right back in the realm of running as fast as they can to stay in place.<p>You pull out a bottleneck, only to reach another bottleneck. Puts the problem squarely in the realm of myth. Sisyphus rolling a boulder up a hill. Someone blew my mind one day when they suggested that Sisyphus didn&#x27;t keep rolling the boulder up the hill because of compulsion, he does it because he finds exquisite meaning in it. He knows every crack, every crevice, how to move most efficiently up that hill. This idea moves the problem from mythological to religious. What is heaven and what is hell?<p>Some wind up burning out, and reverting to a simpler, more primitive form of life. Yours truly has a hard time seeing that as anything more than a rest stop. As humanity connects and we learn more about ourselves, our minds, and our bodies, we&#x27;ll start unlocking dizzying heights of human achievement. These things will look like self-inflicted torture.<p>But at the end of the day, humans yearn for one thing, greatness, elevation, perfection. So they&#x27;ll keep pushing themselves to that next level.
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james_s_tayler超过 5 年前
I feel like this is stating the obvious and putting the emphasis on the exact wrong end of it.<p>&quot;Oh no! Think about all the potential geniuses we are missing out on! We must be doing something wrong!&quot;<p>Ok, thought about it.<p>My conclusion is:<p>&quot;Wow, the rate of genius production has never been higher, we must really be doing something right.&quot;<p>Could it be better? Sure. Is it getting better? According to Factfulness: sure.<p>I just don&#x27;t understand the ridiculous in-built assumption that we are somehow wronging society and the potential geniuses themselves by them not being in a time and a place that makes use of the quality of the substrate of those particular individuals.<p>Well, sorry but nature doesn&#x27;t optimize for the individual, it optimizes for the whole.<p>You may as well get equally mad at something silly like &quot;why doesn&#x27;t everyone always roll a 6?&quot;
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AlexTWithBeard超过 5 年前
The opportunity is there. It&#x27;s always there. It may not be an opportunity to immediately become the president of an international corporation, but it&#x27;s an opportunity to improve your life and life of your future generations.<p>Give your children education. Make sure they grow up in a full family. Move to a better place. All these small things add up. You won&#x27;t become a millionaire this way, but your grandkids may.
lopmotr超过 5 年前
The lack of exposure to role models for girls is a load of carefully crafted dishonesty. It gives the impression that role models are the reason for gender differences in inventing without actually saying that. Instead, it uses the same weasel word &quot;can&quot; as cosmetics advertising telling you that some chemical &quot;can&quot; reduce wrinkles. It also doesn&#x27;t quantify the effect because that would probably be embarrassing. Of course role models will have some effect but it&#x27;s not the only one - sexual dimorphism is there too and all the role models in the world won&#x27;t change that. I wish people would stop lying to themselves and others about gender differences. Men and women are not cognitively equal on average. We have different strengths and weaknesses. There&#x27;s nothing wrong with that. You don&#x27;t have to pretend that women would be just as good as men if only society would stop misunderstanding them. It&#x27;s trying to pull girls under a spell of delusion to fool them into behaving like boys, perhaps so that more of those who can do so will fulfill their potential. Why not be honest and help people understand that their own individual qualities are not the same as their group average?
bsenftner超过 5 年前
One place talent is not is in the screening process of VC. Attempting to raise money for a new venture is like returning to high school and being confronted by the popular kids demanding to know why you should be allowed into their club. I expected professionalism, and primarily saw immature 1%&#x27;ers so transparent in their shallowness, it turned raising funding into a surreal experience leaving bile in my throat.
jshowa3超过 5 年前
The worst part isn&#x27;t lacking opportunity. It&#x27;s knowing that you lack the ability and are forced to live your life that way without any ability to do anything about it.<p>Opportunity is at least, largely changeable. Ability isn&#x27;t.<p>Being average is the worst thing imaginable in today&#x27;s society because nobody cares about average people.<p>I would give up anything to have the brain of an inventor. But it&#x27;s something that has constantly haunted my mind knowing that I will always be sub-par.<p>It&#x27;s even worse when you go through school and you&#x27;re a top performer in your school work. You&#x27;re given a false sense of being one of the best, only to be exposed in the real world as a complete fraud.
username90超过 5 年前
We shouldn&#x27;t worry about finding the talent who can work as researchers, first we should worry about finding the talent who can reliably work as modern farmers or in factories. That is what Africa is missing before it can take the next step towards becoming a modern society.
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macawfish超过 5 年前
Capital is so trapped up that people don&#x27;t even have the capital to take care of basic needs.
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eaenki超过 5 年前
Imo<p>Education is overvalued, Capital is under appreciated,<p>And, Because Capital is trapped into networks, that Capital is squandered among an infinite array of companies employing the talent and producing products that don’t make you, or the planet, better, healthier, smarter or happier. (Apple’s SJ era, Google until 2014~ and Tesla fit the useful smarter happier paradigma, and not many other)<p>My solution is: take a piece of the federal budget and give $1-3MM to anyone with a far fetched idea that has a prototype to back it up. No long processes. If 30K -mostly students- a year get a mill to develop their thing, I suspect we would find ourselves way into the future in just a decade. And that’s just $30-90B&#x2F;y
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marmaduke超过 5 年前
&gt; list of innovations we need is long<p>but subsequent included nothing vis-a-vis the expensive, industrial lifestyle we have these days. It is unfortunate that cultural innovation doesn&#x27;t make the list, since it would go a long way toward address some pertinent problems
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kstenerud超过 5 年前
If I hadn&#x27;t had to work jobs just to keep food on the table, I&#x27;d have invented the things I did A LOT earlier. I&#x27;d probably be finished rewriting the internet&#x27;s protocols by now, instead of only being 30% of the way there.<p>But that&#x27;s not how this world works. Most of the early discoveries were by affluent people or had benefactors and didn&#x27;t need jobs and thus actually had time.
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chiefalchemist超过 5 年前
&gt; &quot;The list of innovations we need is long: clean and cheap energy, better crops, interventions to help against the diseases that shorten and impair our lives. This, and much more besides, is needed to make progress against the big problems we face. But while the demand for innovation is large, its supply is limited.&quot;<p>Yes and no. What we need is better problem identification and more appropriate priorities.<p>For example, we don&#x27;t need &quot;better crops.&quot; We need to stop wasting so much of that we do have. Less waste means less wasted resources.<p>For example, less wasted food also means less chemicals and pesticides, which likely means less disease and medical issues.<p>If we solved for root problem (i.e., apply The Five Whys) we&#x27;d waste less time and resources solving for symptoms.<p>As for the supply of innovation being limit. IDK, I&#x27;ve heard that scarcity breeds innovation. So perhaps we are innovating, but in the wrong places, at the wrong time, for the wrong reasons.
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mLuby超过 5 年前
Immigration isn&#x27;t mentioned at all; that&#x27;s shocking.<p>Assuming talent seeks opportunity to express itself, places looking for success (=talent*opportunity) should to make it easy for talent to move there.<p>For the US, let students who earn masters&#x2F;doctorates at American schools stay.
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known超过 5 年前
Very few societies promote Self-actualization in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Maslow&#x27;s_hierarchy_of_needs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Maslow&#x27;s_hierarchy_of_needs</a>
prirun超过 5 年前
One problem I see in education today is that we give lots of extra resources to kids with learning problems, behavior problems, and physical handicaps, but not many resources go to gifted kids because &quot;they&#x27;ll do okay on their own&quot;. Yes, they might do &quot;okay&quot;, but they might turn into brilliant innovators if they were given the same extra attention that the kids below the median get.<p>This article is specifically about kids who score above average in math in 3rd grade. As a society, we have chosen (or someone has) to provide extra teaching staff to help kids that are below the median, not the ones who are exceptional.
segmondy超过 5 年前
&quot;Talent is everywhere, opportunity is not&quot;. I keep seeing this quote, but not attribution. Oldest I can find of it, -<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.talkleft.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;2009&#x2F;9&#x2F;26&#x2F;144122&#x2F;317&#x2F;hillaryclinton&#x2F;Hillary-Talent-Is-Universal-Opportunity-Is-Not-" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.talkleft.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;2009&#x2F;9&#x2F;26&#x2F;144122&#x2F;317&#x2F;hillarycl...</a>
sdiq超过 5 年前
I think the better question would have been, how would Steve Jobs have ended up if he were born in Syria
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NHQ超过 5 年前
I have tech talents that maybe a few thousand people in the world have, and research ability to move the needle (maybe even novel ideas in the field, if you ask me).<p>I can&#x27;t work in academia (no Ph.D), find capital (no connections), and the software job market is a crazy stupid PITA (no thanks).<p>I know it&#x27;s me, that I can have what I want if I really go for it, and that is what I do by living simply and continuing my work.<p>But it would be swell if it was easier to be seen, at such a high level. I would gladly teach, if offered the role.<p>Basically, it should made way-too-easy for obviously talented, experienced, people to find some kind of work in teaching or civic developments.
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baybal2超过 5 年前
Invention is overvalued as well as the idea of &quot;creativity.&quot;<p>The biggest proof is the current China-USA standoff.<p>USA is on the paper the biggest nation on earth by manufacturing output, but what was the last time you saw made in USA household goods in supermarket without having to specifically look for them?<p>Why China has industrial base and USA doesn&#x27;t?<p>Wages difference? No, not by a chance. In some places in China, the cost of trained blue collar labour begins to exceed that of US.<p>An hourly rate for an experienced pick and place machine operator in South China certainly exceeds $15 per hour, and may be closing on $20. This is what I can tell from my own experience.<p>On an another hand, it is $16 in USA. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indeed.com&#x2F;salaries&#x2F;SMT-Operator-Salaries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indeed.com&#x2F;salaries&#x2F;SMT-Operator-Salaries</a><p>Even plain assembly line workers now get close to $15, and trained ones above that. For any manufacturing automation specialist in China, wages are better than in USA...<p>You don&#x27;t see Chinese industrialists racing to setup factories in USA. Think why now?<p>I was telling my own story on HN few times already. I was trying to setup an electric scooter factory in Vancouver, Canada, and then in US northwest on behalf of my employer.<p>I had to hire university grads to do plain assembly, as anybody else had hard time to just wire a battery, throttle, BMS board, and a motor. And that with colour coded wire harness with mechanical keys to prevent miswiring... We spent 6 months looking for an operator for our model of pick and place machine.<p>In China, those are the jobs I can hire a highschooler for.<p>America wastes its talent not any much less than, say, most countries Americans call &quot;the third world.&quot;<p>A very good story about that <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;technology&#x2F;iphones-apple-china-made.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;technology&#x2F;iphones-apple-...</a>
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quxbar超过 5 年前
What&#x27;s that? UBI?
vinniejames超过 5 年前
Opportunity is created, not found
boyadjian超过 5 年前
The talent, was originally a unity of mass and money of Antiquity, so people who have talent, means people who have money.
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threeisoneis超过 5 年前
Once again, an article related to utilitarian altruism that doesn&#x27;t seem to draw a defensible conclusion from the arguments given. This particular type of article, and the works of the effective altruism movement more broadly, always creep up to the edge of demanding meaningful change but, in their conclusions, shrink away from it.<p>They make the case that the world has a lot of issues, that a lot of people have bad lives and that those people should have better lives, and that &quot;we need to do what is possible to allow everyone to live a life free of poverty, free of hunger, and free of premature death&quot;.<p>But from there, the path they lay out, and advocate for, is one of continued oligarchy. After saying that we need to eliminate poverty, hunger, and premature death, they advocate for &quot;[continuing] the positive developments of the last decades with more children surviving, more children growing up free of the worst poverty, and more children being better educated than ever before. If I am optimistic about the future of the world and progress against the world’s problems it is because of this.&quot;<p>But what if you don&#x27;t agree? And how could you? While some thing seem to be getting better (by some indicators only) global inequality continues to increase, and the inequality in developed economies is obscene. The climate and environment are destroyed more rapidly than ever in a continual quest for infinite growth. The solution proposed to the horrors of our present world, of improvement by creating more capitalism, is absurd. Capitalism is functioning as it must. It&#x27;s not capitalism&#x27;s fault as an ideology - it was designed to be this way.<p>The world being advocated by these altruistic technocrats is no better than our own: if we lived in their utopia, we&#x27;d be at the mercy of our &#x27;betters&#x27; who would still form a separate class above the rest of society. The suggestions for how to give back are also laughable. Donating your time or money individually while doing nothing to challenge the system won&#x27;t change anything. It is through radical societal change, radical democracy, that a new and better world can be achieved.<p>Neoliberals like this often feel the need to impress upon everyone that at least the floor is being raised - the amount of people in extreme poverty has gone down (by some metric) or the amount of people dying of disease has been reduced. But the real path to liberation isn&#x27;t the gradual improvement of the bottom while the top gets fatter and richer and more powerful. The real solution is revolution. Take the table, take the world, break free from this failed system.<p>What can you do, then, if you&#x27;re not going to nobly work at a hedge-fund and selflessly donate some of your salary to cure malaria? Advocate for the real change you want to see in the world. If you want to end climate change, start going to the climate strikes. If you want a better life you workers at low incomes, show them solidarity when they strike. If your boss uses your open source library for an ICE contract, delete the code. When the world begins to shift, and everyone looks around and wonders why everything is so wrong, don&#x27;t use data to insist that everything is good, actually. Embrace the knowledge that something is wrong! Something is wrong! And the world is fucked if it doesn&#x27;t change. Don&#x27;t let incrementalists like Max fool you into thinking otherwise.
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ryanmarsh超过 5 年前
Opportunity is often missed because it looks like work.
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