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Charts show how little progress has been made in limiting greenhouse emissions

280 点作者 jsingleton超过 5 年前

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mattigames超过 5 年前
Is so obvious where this is all going: The wealthy -the factories owners and their close allies- the very same ones ignoring the pledges to stop contributing to climate change will be the only ones protected enough from most damages of climate change, only the wealthy will afford to live in the cities with livable temperature, to buy potable water, only the most resilient of the poor and middle-class will survive, and their youngsters will be used as soldiers to fight for natural resources, some of their families will enjoy those resources but only enough to breed more soldiers to keep the wars going.
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carapace超过 5 年前
You don&#x27;t have to wait for anybody.<p>Maybe the most important thing to know is that we can make carbon-neutral alcohol fuel, and, integrated into regenerative agriculture (&quot;Permaculture&quot; et. al.) the economics are totally different than large-scale industrial ethanol production.<p>Think Community-Supported-Agriculture that supplies your gas.<p>Dave &quot;Farmer Dave&quot; Bloom collected all the necessary info into a book (that was banned from public tv at the time!) <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;alcoholcanbeagas.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;alcoholcanbeagas.com&#x2F;</a> Get the book, find or start your local fuel co-op!<p>- - - -<p>For practical advice on what to do I recommend Toby Hemenway&#x27;s videos in re: Permaculture<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tobyhemenway.com&#x2F;videos&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tobyhemenway.com&#x2F;videos&#x2F;</a><p>Especially &quot;How Permaculture Can Save Humanity and the Planet – But Not Civilization&quot; and the sequel &quot;Redesigning Civilization with Permaculture&quot;.<p>Permaculture is a school of applied ecology (the word itself is a portmanteau of PERMAnent agriCULTURE) that has adherents and practitioners world-wide. It&#x27;s not the only form of regenerative agriculture either.<p>- - - -<p>See also <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.greenwave.org&#x2F;our-work" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.greenwave.org&#x2F;our-work</a> Oceanic 3D farms! And now they are building reefs?<p>- - - -<p>For more inspiration and projects search &quot;Geoff Lawton Greening the Desert&quot;
perfunctory超过 5 年前
Climate crisis is getting scarier and scarier by the day. Don&#x27;t know about you guys but I am done with sitting behind my computer and whining about what &quot;they&quot; should or shouldn&#x27;t do. I am joining Extinction Rebellion.
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jwr超过 5 年前
How is this not the #1 story? Why do we even bother with all the other trivia?
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coldtea超过 5 年前
&gt;<i>A set of troubling charts shows how little progress nations have made toward limiting greenhouse-gas emissions.</i><p>When countries have made real progress &quot;toward limiting greenhouse-gas emission&quot; one would not need charts to see it: it would be immediately evident in everyday lifestyles, consumer habits, and energy use...
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Mikeb85超过 5 年前
So who wants to volunteer to have their living conditions drastically reduced?<p>The west likes to blame China and India, places we&#x27;ve outsourced manufacturing and work to and yet somehow they still produce far less CO2 per capita. We shame people into reducing their individual emissions while ignoring the fact that industry produces most of the emissions.<p>The fact is, no country is going to take drastic measures. We don&#x27;t know exactly what&#x27;s going to happen when the world warms 3 degrees (we have ideas, but the world has been both warmer and colder in the past, and somehow life survived). We do however know what would happen if we suddenly stunted economic progress tomorrow (nothing good).
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eloff超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve thought a lot about climate change and it&#x27;s consequences. If we trigger runaway warming through feedback loops involved permafrost and ocean (hydrates) methane - things are going to get really, really bad. This happened when ~5C degree warming from millions of years of the Siberian traps eruptions caused methane hydrates to be released into the atmosphere, triggering another ~5C warming and the greatest mass extinction on Earth, the End-Permian Extinction, also known as &quot;the Great Dying&quot; where 96% of marine species went extinct, and 70% of terrestrial species. Clearly if that happens, we&#x27;re really in trouble. I don&#x27;t know how likely that is, or what the trigger point would be. The climate today is not the same as it was 250M years ago.<p>On the other side of the coin, the Earth is uncomfortably cool these last few million years. We have these repeated periods of glaciation. Having Europe, Russia, Canada, and the northern US ground to dust beneath kilometers of ice would be a bit of tragedy too on a similar scale. That it&#x27;s further away in the future doesn&#x27;t make it less of a problem - if we&#x27;re too aggressive solving climate change we could imagine a future where we have to deliberately pump methane into the atmosphere to stave off an ice age. For better or worse we seem to be at no risk of this through our ineptitude in responding to climate change.<p>For people worried about coral reefs dying, it happened less than 10K year ago at the end of the last ice age. Sea level rose 400ft and drowned the world&#x27;s coral reefs. They bounced back, as you can see today. They will also bounce back from climate change - it will just suck in the meanwhile. There are undoubtedly things we can and will do to make it suck less, like developing heat resistant corals, planting reefs further north&#x2F;south, etc.<p>For people worried about coastal cities being submerged, relax, you&#x27;ll be dead by then. Long term, we should be moving our investment to more sustainable areas. But infrastructure doesn&#x27;t last forever anyway, so I think a lot of that may occur naturally as people just stop developing new infrastructure in low-lying areas. There&#x27;s no question it will cost us though.<p>If you&#x27;re really worried about climate change for your descendants, get Canadian citizenship. That&#x27;s one of the few countries likely to benefit from climate change.<p>So to sum up, climate change is not all bad, just mostly bad, until or unless it runs away on us, and then the doomsayers may be right for a change.
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nostromo超过 5 年前
Actually a lot of progress has been made, except in China, which has increased emissions to the point of reversing all other progress globally.<p>By comparison, US carbon has been going down since 2007, despite a growing population and economy. Per capita it&#x27;s been declining for over four decades.<p>China now emits more than the US and EU combined, despite having much, much less economic output.
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eledumb超过 5 年前
Reducing output isn&#x27;t going to happen, well it won&#x27;t happen until it&#x27;s too late. It&#x27;s like the smoker that gets diagnosed with cancer, and then decides to quite smoking.<p>It&#x27;s also ludicrous that think that warming will stop and hold at 1.5 or 2.0c adding less won&#x27;t stop the increase in climate warming, it will just cause the increase to be slower.<p>The other thing that&#x27;s ludicrous is that we aren&#x27;t monitoring the earth&#x27;s output, the warming oceans, melting glaciers and thawing permafrost are now contributing greenhouse gases due to the warming climate, they are now locked into positive feedback loops. Which means every cycle the changes get a little bit bigger as the cycles feed themselves. Unless we can start to reduce the total amount of greenhouse gases in the upper atmosphere these feedback loops are just going to keep running.
sarbaz超过 5 年前
So, is there any convincing reason to think that any emissions targets will be met? Does anyone buy the line in the article about India? Surely they will become an emitter at least as significant as China.<p>Isn&#x27;t our money better spent preparing for the inevitable effects of climate change?
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joshuaheard超过 5 年前
It looks like if you take China and India out of the equation, the numbers are trending down.
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jsingleton超过 5 年前
The UN Climate Action Summit 2019 is live online <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webtv.un.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webtv.un.org&#x2F;</a> or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.un.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;climatechange&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.un.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;climatechange&#x2F;</a>
neves超过 5 年前
USA and Canada have more than the double of emissions per capita than China. While these countries doesn&#x27;t take the responsibility for climate change, nothing will change.
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jsingleton超过 5 年前
The data comes from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;climateactiontracker.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;climateactiontracker.org&#x2F;</a>, specifically <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;climateactiontracker.org&#x2F;global&#x2F;cat-emissions-gaps&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;climateactiontracker.org&#x2F;global&#x2F;cat-emissions-gaps&#x2F;</a> (where you can download a spreadsheet).
dwaltrip超过 5 年前
This shouldn&#x27;t be flagged. Is there any way to vouch that a story shouldn&#x27;t be flagged?
carapace超过 5 年前
Flagging climate stories? WTF?
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kossTKR超过 5 年前
The fact that articles from Nature are getting flagged now is beyond dark. Vested interests, desperate denial or plain delusion?
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