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Ray Dalio says the global economy is under threat

105 点作者 joeyespo超过 5 年前

10 条评论

philipkglass超过 5 年前
If machines can produce every useful good and service better than humans -- including manufacturing copies of themselves -- then the global economy (denominated in units of currency) might be under threat, but people will materially prosper. It&#x27;s not dollars or euros or renminbi that people really need. People need goods and services. If the machines-do-everything technology gets invented once, copies will soon spread globally [1].<p>The real problem is more likely to be the transitional turbulence. If self-driving vehicles <i>do</i> wipe out millions of truck driver jobs in the year 2029, but automated doctors aren&#x27;t ready until 2059, large groups of workers lose income without seeing deflationary relief in the prices of services they need.<p>[1] The spread of maker machines could happen &quot;legitimately&quot; -- Gates Foundation or a similar organization financing freely shareable re-implementations. It could also happen &quot;illegally&quot; -- a government in a poorer country will just decide to tell international patent&#x2F;copyright holders to pound sand in favor of their own domestic constitutents. This would be similar to South Africa&#x27;s treatment of HIV drug patents in the 1990s.
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throwaway8291超过 5 年前
It seems very clear to the man on the street, the fights are getting more fierce. Assets prices increase and the bottom 80% are getting squeezed out of many things, slowly but surely: education, housing and with that also out of participation in society.<p>There is literally nothing, that hints at progress at this point: Tech and internet will has turned into permanent surveillance, the home surveillance is rolled out, the internet of things and workspace will be next, allowing for google analytics on labor.<p>And if workers complain too much, increase investments in software and data tools and replace a bunch of wet ware with some tool; heck, half of the &quot;knowledge workers&quot; today might be obsolete already.<p>The average person won&#x27;t have much to laugh for the next few decades. We live in a sad time, where the most miraculous things man can create (machines that &quot;think&quot;) will be the prime weapons of the owners against the non-owners. I fear this will be a costly battle.
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anon1m0us超过 5 年前
&gt;He sees “transferring money to people who are unproductive” [universal basic income, UBI] as less optimal than finding a way for them to be productive.<p>Why can&#x27;t we let the individual find a way to make themselves productive? And, why do they <i>need</i> to be productive? Some of my best times in life are watching and playing games with my friends. Socializing. Loving people.<p>I, and most people I know, can look around and see things that need to be done. If our lives aren&#x27;t so focused on paying the bills all the time, we can relax a bit and be creative.<p>I remember I used to get <i>great</i> school lunches. I knew the cafeteria staff by name and they knew me because I went back for seconds and thirds and fourths... skinny as a bean pole. Lunches were made fresh every day. The staff were there at 6am cooking for the kids. Fresh bread. I used to love watching that dough bounce around in the industrial mixer. It was bigger than I was.<p>A decade after I was out of school, I saw one of the ladies and asked how the school lunches were. She said they don&#x27;t get to make them anymore. The menus are decided in Washington DC now and they have very little control over what is cooked or eaten. Kids don&#x27;t come back for seconds and thirds and fourths anymore.<p>The federal government took local control away from the schools and homogenized everything and basically ruined it from what I remember.<p>Why do we think the federal government knows better how to manage our day to day lives than we do ourselves? Get out of our kitchens and homes.<p>The government doesn&#x27;t need to find a way for me to be productive. People who need to be productive to keep their sanity will find a way. They&#x27;ll clean their bedrooms, volunteer in their communities. They won&#x27;t be judged by what their job is, but rather, what they do for themselves and the people around them.<p>The need to grind out a day at the office or the shipyard or in the truck hauling cargo saps a person&#x27;s freewill.<p>We need more freewill in the world.
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RickJWagner超过 5 年前
Dalio unquestionably has had success with investing. But his ideas are often called crazy. (i.e. the bond-heavy nature of his &#x27;All Weather Portfolio&#x27;.)<p>He&#x27;s also at odds with stalwarts like Warren Buffet, who point out that gold doesn&#x27;t really have a reason to be a hedge against a crash. It doesn&#x27;t do anything, it just looks pretty. Once people begin to figure that the emporer has no clothes, gold will just be cheap, pretty metal.<p>Dalio is worth listening to, but with a large grain of salt, IMHO.
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chroem-超过 5 年前
As someone who likes to crack jokes at the expense of goldbugs, Dalio saying to buy precious metals got my attention.
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scottlocklin超过 5 年前
People taking seriously what a hedgefund manager says in a public speech... it is to laugh.<p>If productivity were going up because of automation to the point where mass unemployment is an issue, interest rates would be higher: the end. Anyone who disagrees doesn&#x27;t understand how finance works.
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teekert超过 5 年前
If I guy that got awfully rich by shuffling money around instead of actually producing anything of value gets scared, then I feel like perhaps the economy may get a bit more fair. Bring it on.
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klaudius超过 5 年前
People have been saying robots will take all the jobs and kill everyone for centuries: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;timeline.com&#x2F;robots-have-been-about-to-take-all-the-jobs-for-more-than-200-years-5c9c08a2f41d" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;timeline.com&#x2F;robots-have-been-about-to-take-all-the-...</a>
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bognition超过 5 年前
What is ccn?
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HNLurker2超过 5 年前
This is the same guy that wrote worthless self-help (&quot;principles&quot;) and claims capitalism is bad, not practicing what he preaches he also benefits the most from it.
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