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Congolese doctor discovered Ebola, but didn't get credit until now

370 点作者 respinal超过 5 年前

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nkozyra超过 5 年前
On the one hand, this is the classic story of colonialism: that the &quot;winners&quot; write the history books. There are likely thousands of stories like this, not the least of which in the woefully exploited African continent.<p>On the other hand, &quot;discovery&quot; is a nebulous term, and plenty of discoveries have inconclusive origins. Why would we call this doctor the discoverer and not the first hospital workers to encounter the disease? Neither knew what it was, both groups thought it something new. Same with the Belgian researcher, (contestedly) named the discoverer.<p>Identifying a disease is the kind of thing that&#x27;s not going to come from one cook in the kitchen. I&#x27;m glad this guy is getting recognition, it sounds like he&#x27;s a noble person who played a critical role in uncovering Ebola and leading to its present level of controllability.<p>Most philosophical and scientific concepts have concurrent or disparate discoverers or inventors. And even those that don&#x27;t have borrowed so much from precedent that you can often make the case the discovery was previously made.
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rayiner超过 5 年前
&gt; He took blood samples before she died and sent them to Belgium, where they had an electron microscope to try to identify the culprit. Scientists there and in the United States saw this was a new virus that caused hemorrhagic fever.<p>I think the whole thing is more complicated than the article makes it out to be. Clearly, Muyembe should get credit for the field epidemiology and recognizing that this could be something new. But can you say, as the article does, that someone “discovered” Ebola if they didn’t isolate the virus that causes it? Now you can argue the reason Muyembe couldn’t isolate the virus was because of colonialism and the Congolese government not being able to afford an expensive piece of equipment like an electron microscope. But would the Congolese have had electron microscopes but for Belgian colonialism?<p>I mean, there is a great story here even without the sensationalism. Man from Congo gets a PhD in Belgium, goes back home to help his country, but is held back by lack of local resources. What does Belgium owe in terms of equipping it’s former colony to help themselves? There is good material there.<p>As someone from a poor former colony myself, I find the whole thing somewhat patronizing. Bangladeshis rely on European and American geneticists to develop GMO rice to feed the country. But if the British hadn’t colonized us, it’s not like we would have developed that technology ourselves by now. But, on the flip side, we had math and civilization and indoor plumbing when the British were tribal people in the forest. No need to patronizingly give us credit for things we didn’t do.
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chirau超过 5 年前
What&#x27;s new here? As an African myself I am not surprised at all. History favors its author.<p>Explorer David Livingstone is credited with discovering the Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe. Despite the multitude of accounts and documentation of the locals&#x27; Mosi-oa-Tunya (the smoke that thunders) prior to his arrival. But hey, according to history it seems the locals had never encountered a waterfall a mile wide and hundreds of meters deep whose plunge creates a mini eternal rainforest in the area and the plunge can be heard from a distance away out of sight of the falls themselves.<p>But yes, it was David Livingstone who &quot;discovered&quot; the falls. Oh, did I mention that from his own account, he was escorted by locals to the falls?
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denzil_correa超过 5 年前
The core of the article is the following summary from Dr. Peter Piot the scientist credited for the Ebola discovery.<p>&gt; Piot says at the time of that first Ebola outbreak, African scientists were simply excluded. White scientists — with a colonial mentality — parachuted in, took samples, wrote papers that were published in the West and took all of the credit.
Alinax超过 5 年前
A lot of people seem to be out of their depth attributing to malice what can be simple stupidity or different sets of prioritization. Here is a few things to consider as you may be attempting to build a &#x27;colonialism or racism&#x27; tone to your perspective: [IF YOU BELIEVE I AM WRONG, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CHANGE MY MIND OR DISCUSS THE MATTER INSTEAD OF UP&#x2F;DOWN VOTES]<p>* Did Dr. Piot think of colonialism when the WHO thought that the UK and US were better equipped to handle this new discovery?<p>* What if a more junior doctor in Muyembe&#x27;s team made the conclusion and Muyembe used his position in power to get the vial to Europe?<p>* Should you as a researcher&#x2F;doctor hold a discovery back for a few days&#x2F;weeks&#x2F;years and let people die for the sake of your name being put on it?<p>* What constitutes a discovery in such case? Concluding it might be something different and moving it forward or doing the lab work to figure out what it is? What not both? Should the treatment be considered a discovery? Should Muyembe add the name of all the people that came before him that provided the tools&#x2F;knowledge to arrive at the treatment?<p>* Should Eyder Peralta (writer of the post) and NPR (an American news company) be seeing as anti-colonialist?<p>* Do country X attribute their success in part to other countries who gave them aid to get infrastructure, training , goods &amp; services they need?
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mayneack超过 5 年前
&quot;The Coming Plague&quot; is a book from 1994 that gave him plenty of credit. I read it a long time ago, but definitely remember it talking about him. It focuses on &quot;virus hunters&quot; from the CDC&#x2F;WHO that tracked down a lot of these emerging diseases in the field. I highly recommend it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vanityfair.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;1995&#x2F;08&#x2F;ebola-africa-outbreak" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vanityfair.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;1995&#x2F;08&#x2F;ebola-africa-outbrea...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Coming-Plague-Emerging-Diseases-Balance-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B005FGR6RO" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Coming-Plague-Emerging-Diseases-Balan...</a>
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belorn超过 5 年前
In diving there is a repeating patter of wrecks being discovered and rediscovered which usually follow the same pattern.<p>A researcher is looking for a famous wreck and locate local fishermen who says they know where it is. They go there, find the wreck, write about it in a journal, and then it get forgotten. A new researcher goes and look for the same wreck and again goes to local fishermen who points the researcher to the wreck, a book get written and the wreck get named after the now official discoverer.
finnthehuman超过 5 年前
People not getting proper credit is the norm, not the exception. I&#x27;m always suspicious of articles like this. They&#x27;re written like the public record is mostly right and correcting this one inaccuracy was an important contribution. But the public record is silent on most things and of questionable accuracy on the rest.<p>My professional experience is that people not caring about external attention and credit is the default. And people seeking that external validation and&#x2F;or press attention don&#x27;t care about getting the boundaries right, they care about getting as many sales or as much adulation as possible. There is a parallel within organizations: either management knows how to reward people without them making sure their name is on things, or they don&#x27;t and people try to get their name on everything regardless of their contribution.<p>And that&#x27;s just the groundwork before we get to the fact the press rarely operates at a level above functional illiteracy for anything that takes domain knowledge.
RcouF1uZ4gsC超过 5 年前
&gt; He describes how the World Health Organization ordered them to give up the samples, to send them to England and eventually the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States, which was one of the only labs equipped to handle a deadly virus like Ebola.<p>&gt;He describes how angry that made him and Dr. Stefaan Pattyn, the man running the lab at the time, who died in 2008.<p>The Belgian scientist Dr. Peter Piot comes across as a truly despicable character. By working with Ebola in a lab that was not equipped to handle such a deadly virus, he put thousands of people’s lives at risk. And the only reason he did it was for ego and career advancement. As mentioned in the article, the scientists at the CDC identified the virus around the same time as he did, so there was absolutely no benefit to anyone by him working with the virus except for his career.
mikorym超过 5 年前
Altohugh I am not particularly upset about it, South African scientists have often not gotten recognition and even the white males ones! [1] [2] I think the discrimination is worse in a way than described in the article. But maybe that touches even on the philosophy of individual recognition itself.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Christiaan_Barnard#First_human-to-human_heart_transplant" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Christiaan_Barnard#First_human...</a>. I&#x27;ve been told that in particular, the USA was not keen of giving someone outside of the US recognition for the first heart transplant. And somewhat ironically, Chris Barnard&#x27;s brother that was part of the team, Marius, did not get recognition (but that may have been due to his less extravagant personality). <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Marius_Barnard_(surgeon)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Marius_Barnard_(surgeon)</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Penis_transplant" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Penis_transplant</a> From what I understand, the US was again hesitant to cede to South Africa, instead stressing the first &quot;penis and scrotum&quot; transplant.
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vtantia超过 5 年前
Does the article mean credit in the part of the world influenced by the Western media?