Brave launches 1.0

I&#x27;ve been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It&#x27;s really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today.<p>For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards:<p>- You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT&#x2F;month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if you watch a particular YouTube channel 30% of your browsing time, it will send 30% of 10 BAT each month to that content creator.<p>- As a user, you can get paid in BAT. You tell Brave if you&#x27;re willing to see ads, and how often. If so, you get paid in BAT, which you can then distribute to content creators. Brave ads are different: rather than intrusive in-page ads, Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system outside of the page. This prevents slow downs of the page, keeping your browsing focused, while still allowing support of content creators. And of course, Brave ads are optional and opt-in.

If people like Brave&#x27;s ad model, all the power to them. I would personally never touch it. I&#x27;m not philosophically on board with the idea that paying people to look at ads is a pragmatic way forward. It doesn&#x27;t matter if it&#x27;s opt-in, free-to-play games with loot crates are opt-in, but the decision to go down that road will effect their decision making process when designing new features and I don&#x27;t want to be part of it even indirectly.

Two big issues for me that have kept me on Firefox despite being a huge cryptocurrency nerd:<p>1. The decision to base on Chromium is a bigger negative for me than any feature. We&#x27;re all going to regret contributing to the One True Engine someday and it&#x27;s going to be so painful to fix.<p>2. BAT is a pure money play. There&#x27;s no inherent utility outside buying and spending. And Ethereum is nothing if not the biggest utility crypto out there. This is always one of those things in the Ethereum ecosystem where I point out that you didn&#x27;t have to make yet another ERC-20 if your only play is money.<p>It&#x27;s too late now, of course. But man, it would have been terrific to recommend a browser that blocked ads out of the box and wasn&#x27;t part of the engine hegemony.

When the Brave folks make their speed claim, it makes me curious if they genuinely don&#x27;t understand the difference between above-the-fold page render time vs how long it takes for the spinner to stop spinning. Maybe they understand the difference but prefer to point people at the spinner because it&#x27;s easier for them to make changes to stop the spinner sooner.<p>Last time I watched one of their speed comparison videos a few months back, it had several examples where their browser was actually never the first to render the useful page content, but was usually the first to stop spinning the spinner in the top of the UI (which, naturally, is what they choose to measure and report).

I tried out Brave ~3 years ago when it was still Electron-based, and it was unfortunately too laggy to be a daily driver. Then I tried it out again ~6 months ago after they&#x27;d switched it to being a Chromium fork. The speed was much-improved, but it suddenly started spamming me with push notifications about various features, Brave rewards, etc. I felt like I was blocking web ads just to get native ads instead. You can turn them off deep in the settings, but I got sketched out and stopped using it.<p>I think Brave&#x27;s payment model concept is a very interesting idea for freeing the open web from the need for advertising, but I haven&#x27;t been impressed with the way the project has been executed so far.

I&#x27;ve used Brave since March, and I&#x27;m really not impressed. For a browser that tries to be different, it&#x27;s incredible how little consideration has been given to things that annoy users and that could probably be trivial to remove.<p>To be more specific, my issues with Brave are:<p>- Still uses the Chrome Web Store as main store<p>- Does not have an easy way to load packaged extensions from 3rd party sources<p>- Even after adding them as unpacked, you still get the same annoying popup every time you open the browser.<p>- I received notices that &quot;My account was waiting for a deposit&quot; the entire time, even though I never allocated any money to anyone<p>- Tipping amounts are fixed<p>I always saw Brave as &quot;not chrome, and not as much of a change as Firefox&quot;, but their approach seem lazy, features halfassed at best and the sneaky anti-features that Chrome has been adding to push users to lock into Google stuff (see all my remarks about extensions) not addressed at all.<p>I&#x27;m using Firefox as main browser now, and I haven&#x27;t been missing brave once.

I use Brave on iOS with javascript blocked as it is the only* iOS browser which gives me the ability to easily use the Web without JS while giving me the ability to quickly enable it for the site where it makes sense, and still retain the ad blocking feature.<p>A surprisingly big part of the Internet works as well or better and faster with javascript disabled, but sometimes it is actually needed and useful so I find this whitelisting method works well.<p>I tried playing around with the script blocking ability of native content blockers but never got it working properly, for one I think it can&#x27;t block script tags only externa scripts.<p>But my recommendation, if you are giving Brave a try is to change the default to disallow scripts, and enable them as needed, it&#x27;s refreshing to browse the Web without Popups 2.0 and all the other not so nice uses of JS.<p>(* only I&#x27;ve found with my limited searching)

I&#x27;ve been using Brave for a few months, and I&#x27;m basically using it as an un-Googled Chrome. Not using the ad rewards system.<p>It&#x27;s pretty good, though I sometimes miss Safari with its amazing location bar autocompletion and ease of syncing with the iOS version. (Brave supports syncs, but it&#x27;s not great, and the iOS app is nowhere as good as Safari on iOS.)<p>Brave does have some bugs. Since July or so, several sites (including my bank) don&#x27;t work because Brave incorrectly [1] blocks their cookies, even with the &quot;shield&quot; turned off.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;6099" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;6099</a> and several others.

Brave is awesome and I&#x27;m happy to see them reaching this point. I&#x27;ve been using this as my primary browser for the past 2 years and my absolute favorite thing about it is the simple profiles switching. HOWEVER that&#x27;s also the thing that&#x27;s irritated me the most as this software has changed: it started with person-specific tabs (awesome!) then moved to person-specific windows (okay ...), and now for the third time they&#x27;ve changed the icons available without letting me specify custom pictures (ugh!). Where is my ability to sync these PROFILES AS A GROUP? Setting up half a dozen &quot;people&quot; on each new computer becomes a tiresome exercise.<p>I tried the rewards&#x2F;BAT thing for a while but after a few computer changes and losing my wallet through the process, I gave up and just block everything and contribute nothing. I&#x27;d like to get back into it but all of those transitions just killed it for me.<p>All that said, there&#x27;s a lot of good stuff in here and I&#x27;m happy to be using it as my primary browser. Now that they&#x27;re hitting 1.0 I may actually be able to recommend it to non-tech people.

&gt; You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT&#x2F;month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if you watch a particular YouTube channel 30% of your browsing time, it will send 30% of 10 BAT each month to that content creator.<p>If you would own a video streaming service (a startup!) and some company started to pay your users for viewing ads on your platform in some MagicMoneyCoins putting your pocket outside the cash flow, what would you do?<p>If you would want to receive organic traffic from your ads and instead start to experience crazy stream of incentivized ad clickers with near zero conversion rate, what would you do?<p>Imo the answers to these questions are not that pleasant for Brave. Maybe I&#x27;m wrong of course, like the most of times.

Ha , it seems i ve made a few bucks (rather, bats) and didn&#x27;t even know. I didn&#x27;t know you can monetize twitter and reddit, but it makes a lot of sense! I kinda like the idea of users controlling sites indirectly by rewarding and punishing them for ads, kind of a direct-to-webmaster upvote button. Not sure about the way they implement their ad replacement, but if the basic model works there will probably be more companies that will enter the BAT ecosystem.

&gt;Removed Google bits<p>&gt;Use Google Chrome store so Google still gets every info it ever wanted and even more than before because your fingerprinting is more unique than with Chrome i.e. you give away your entire browsing history for free to Google<p>Whoever uses Brave shouldn&#x27;t be surprised why advertisers and trackers now have an even easier time following you

What is Brave doing under the hood to get these claimed performance improvements over Chrome, Firefox and Safari?

I don&#x27;t know if I understood it right, but BATs are only given when users see the ads, right?<p>If this is the case, it seems that Brave fosters the use of ads, not reduce it.<p>Is my understanding right?

Criticism:<p>#1 Brave advertise with privacy and speed while all they do is adding adblock.<p>#2 Brave replaces adds with their own adds. This basically means you get the same experience but cut off the income of the content creator entirely.<p>#3 Brave allows you to reward 3rd party sites. This system is so nice they even got legal issues as it was assumed as fraud.<p>#4 BAT. Brave advertise with consumer first. The best choice for the consumer would be Paypal. If there is an incent to stay with crypto currency Bitcoin or Ethereum.<p>Given Brave created their own crypto currency and base every model around that they can profit from Transactions&#x2F;services with the currency too on top of the share they take when you use their add platform&#x2F;feature.<p>Given the criticism its very hard for me to understand users sympathizing with the browser.

I&#x27;ve been using Brave for several months. It&#x27;s exactly what I wanted - A faster, chromium-based browser with sensible, privacy-conscious defaults.<p>I don&#x27;t personally mind the Chrome Web Store default.

I used Brave for a while on Android and found it to work well. However, in the last month or so something changed and it started freezing constantly.<p>I&#x27;ve since switched to Firefox, which is much better on Android than when I last tried it.

Here are two problems I have noticed with brave-browser : The layout is great on widescreen monitors but breaks on my 15&#x27;&#x27; laptop. Sites like YouTube render as a garish mess of incongruously placed whitespace. This is a major issue. Also, the brave icons for receiving &#x27;rewards&#x27;, when activated, are too large obstrusive when displayed on websites. I had to turn them off in settings.<p>On the good side, I like that I don&#x27;t have to ever watch pesky ads on YouTube.<p>Overall however, brave-browser is great and offers a welcome change from traditional browsers.

My personal site which has never had ads made a couple bucks last year of BAT. Pretty easy to get set up. Can&#x27;t complain.

I like their &quot;Shield&quot;, looks very well. 128k blocked ads&#x2F;trackers for ~month when uBlock&#x2F;uMatrix are enabled too.<p>About their Ad program - money are very small yet, for both: site owners &amp; users.

Is Brave making any amount of money from their advertising system? I can&#x27;t find any public communications about it, and I would expect them to be touting if the numbers are good.<p>The weird thing about Brave is that they raised $35 million from their crypto ICO, but that isn&#x27;t like normal fundraising because you can only do it once. So they really need their real business to kick in and start working before they run out of that money, more than most venture-backed startups need to start making money.<p>Getting paid money to watch ads reminds me of AllAdvantage in the first dotcom boom. It seems cool at first when the system is juiced by investor money, but once advertisers realize the ROI is low, the money dries up.

Awesome work, Brave!<p>We use Brave internally for all our development work and are also a Brave Certified book publisher for the web [1][2]. Please tip us to support the books we publish if you are a Brave user too!<p>I can vouch for the quality of browsing experience and speed that we have had in the past two years. One of the best features of Brave, which led me to set the browser as our default, is on a shortcut `Command + Option + N`. This shortcut opens a private window using Tor which is super useful, handy, fast and most importantly private. :-)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bubblin.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bubblin.io</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creators.brave.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creators.brave.com&#x2F;</a>

Brave has a series of ads about different aspects of what Brave offers:<p>Creators: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372813874" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372813874</a><p>Speed: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372813765" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372813765</a><p>Privacy: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372736442" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;372736442</a><p>This one isn’t an ad; it’s a video of a speed test of Brave vs. Chrome and Firefox loading sites that millions of users access every day and doing <i>much</i> faster:<p>Brave Browser Speed Comparison 2019: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;371512354" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;371512354</a>

Already using Brave on my work computer for the past year ish. Infinitely better than _anything_ out there.<p>Once they offer browser sync of saved passwords and history, I&#x27;m gone for good chrome&#x2F;firefox on every other device I own.

I&#x27;m going to give this a try again. I REALLY want the model of micropayments vs ads to work. I realize content creators need to get paid, I just refuse to be subtly influenced by ads in my day to day life. I currently use an ad blocker in Chrome to get around that but I&#x27;m perfectly fine paying $5 a month to creators I use.<p>The problem is that I think ads may be worth even more than that to creators, which if you have any doubt about their efficacy should make you rethink.

There are a lot of negative comments here about Brave. They fall into two classes. One group thinks the present state of affairs with the web is ok, so there is no need for Brave. That view is so cracked that I am not going to bother responding to it.<p>The other group agrees the web is broken, but then claims that Brave won&#x27;t fix things and will even make them worse.<p>I don&#x27;t think that is true, but the thing is, we need to have something new here, and Brave is the only solution out there at present that is developed, is trying to address all the problems, and is reasonably usable by non-techies, and so I am using it and I urge everyone else to do so too.<p>To those people who claim Brave is awful, I say they should be working on something they think would better. I suspect they aren&#x27;t doing that because they are just negative people, or they are trollers who are being paid by the present internet powers-that-be.<p>On the latter idea, its not just paranoia. If someone came up with a good alternative, people like the advertising networks would feel mortally threatened, and I think it is absolutely certain they would strike back with a massive disinformation campaign.

This is a pretty cool idea - I&#x27;m not sure how intrusive the OS notification are going to be but I&#x27;m willing to give it a shot as long as they don&#x27;t collect any personal info on me.<p>I just signed up as a content creator and added my website as a channel - interestingly my website already had some bat associated with it. Does this mean that some people have already donated some BAT to it?

What if I really don&#x27;t want to see ads at all ? Can I pay Brave in € and let it distribute this money to the content creators ?

As a Firefox user, is there a reason to convert? Seems like a step backwards to me, even though I applaud what they&#x27;re doing.

The other day I tried to look up a recipe for beef stew on my phone. Normally my web reading experience tends to be limited to big news sites and tech on a Desktop or Tablet - the ads there are bad, but not terrible. But recipe sites are a whole different category of horrible. I was shocked.<p>They are all absolutely PACKED with ads. Try it yourself. It&#x27;s ridiculous. Every other paragraph is separated by ads, overlays, click-spam news, auto-playing videos, etc. I tried easily 7 or 8 different sites before giving up and installing Brave.<p>This is just anecdotal, but I think the categories that are targeted at the broadest category of users, probably scewing towards older and female, are just being straight up abusive. And mobile seems to be particularly bad.<p>This situation is untenable. I guess sites and advertisers are just relying on a continuing influx of newbies to line their pockets, but really it&#x27;s a scorched Earth policy that can&#x27;t possibly continue as is.

Having switched recently from Firefox to Brave, I must say it&#x27;s a pretty nice browser but with some unwanted quirks.<p>1) It tries to also be a bit-torrent client but the downoad doesn&#x27;t even survive a tab closing. Pretty frustrating to lose a big long download that way. 2) new tabs have a weird eye-bleeding background and there&#x27;s no way to change it

Sorry I&#x27;ve tried to give Brave a shot for a couple of months and the 3-6x faster browsing is nonsense. It&#x27;s really slow compared to Chrome or Firefox. Just do a quick comparison yourself, you can probably count seconds on a couple of sites you visit regularly whereas Chrome loads instantly.

I would be more inclined to try BAT if it were just an extension that I could add to any browser of my choice. Also, having tried Brave it doesn&#x27;t seem like you actually have the private keys to your own wallet since I wasn&#x27;t able to withdraw any funds without an Uphold account.

Please return &quot;Brave&quot; to your User-Agent[0] so we can return to opting out of your cryptocurrency.[1] (Yes, I&#x27;m aware of the changes since the scandal broke[2].)<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1052#issuecomment-549667310" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;1052#issuecomm...</a> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lobsters&#x2F;lobsters&#x2F;issues&#x2F;761" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lobsters&#x2F;lobsters&#x2F;issues&#x2F;761</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18734999" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18734999</a>

I don&#x27;t understand why they didn&#x27;t use a stable coin&#x2F;transition BAT to a stable coin, the volatility of BAT probably keeps creators uneasy. Why sign up for a service where contributions can lose half their value overnight.

Great job Brave! Privacy protecting ads and you get paid to browse. Simply amazing!!

A privacy-focused browser that took money from the Palantir guy. Hard pass. That&#x27;s before considering the CEO&#x27;s past, unexplained donation to a hate campaign spearheaded by the Mormon church.

I keep trying to use Brave but I feel that it drops the ball. I think Hamcha encapsulates most of my grievances.<p>I&#x27;d like to add that if your Browser is trying to add a new dynamic of economics but your UX is terrible dealing with tips (fixed) and you&#x27;re annoying users about needing a deposit. You&#x27;re doing it wrong.<p>It&#x27;s almost like Brave doesn&#x27;t even believe in it&#x27;s mission. There should be an intense focus on their product. That they are relentless at it. Because right now, it all seems half-baked.

Why does this press release feel ike richard hendricks in congress?

We&#x27;ve still got BAT enabled on PortableApps.com with the standard custom Brave browser header and donation ask you setup via their program. We got 31.35 BAT (about $8.08) for around 2.7 million page views in the last month. We also got a single 0.95 BAT (about 24 cent) donation. It seems that - right now at least - the only way a site will make enough money to be worth it is via Brave referrals (advertising Brave to your users to get them to switch).

So if I operate a website, Brave can remove my monetization and replace it with their own, without my consent? How does that work?

Did they fix their sync issue yet? I couldn&#x27;t get my laptop and desktop to work together so I switched over to Firefox.

edit2: Nevermind all this, Brave did in fact implement protected content this earlier this year<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;413" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;413</a><p>I still can&#x27;t use brave to watch netflix on Linux. Its a great product and I love shifting the incentive of advertising away from intrusive data harvesting, but treating Linux like its a second class citizen means I won&#x27;t use your product. Whats worse is that Firefox is 100% open source and Chromium is 100% open source and they both manage to get this working out of the box. There is no reason for Brave to not have working Netflix<p>edit: Also I know the library that decodes the DRM is proprietary, my point is the integration with it is open and available, no reason it can&#x27;t be duplicated.

Can you login to the StackDriver metrics console with Brave yet? I had to disable everything, literally all protections, to get this to non-endless redirect, its difficult to whitelist as there is dozens of domains from (gcloud to accounts.google.com, to some sd&#x2F;stackdrivers one) at this point it I gave up

Just tried it. Still no Android Autofill support.<p>Don&#x27;t want to enable less secure legacy accessibility support.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.brave.com&#x2F;t&#x2F;android-autofill-api-enabled-in-brave&#x2F;64238&#x2F;11" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.brave.com&#x2F;t&#x2F;android-autofill-api-enabled-i...</a>

&gt; “Either we all accept the $330 billion ad-tech industry treating us as their products, exploiting our data, piling on more data breaches and privacy scandals, and starving publishers of revenue; or ...<p>Give Brave a piece of that moist and delicious $330B cake, because...<p>&gt; That’s the inspiration behind Brave,” he added.

Eternal reminder by @paulskallas (Twitter):<p>&gt; there&#x27;s never been a good ad in the history of advertising. 120 years and there&#x27;s never been an ad that has stood the test of time and was fondly remembered like literature or a song. It is a profoundly anti lindy medium that exists in the now, forever

I used brace for a while on mobile but stopped once brave started to out ads in the notification bar. I don&#x27;t remember exactly what they were for - probably BAT and the browser itself - but I definitely don&#x27;t need another pathway to get slammed. Back to Firefox and happy as can be.

Downloaded 1.0, first thing I entered in to the address bar got sent to Google, doh!<p>uninstalled, back to FireFox and DDG.

Offers 3-6x faster browsing than what exactly, browsing with IE or Edge without any ad blocking?

Article here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;brave-browser-1-0-arrives-bringing-its-privacy-first-ads-to-iphones-and-ipads&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;brave-browser-1-0-arrives-bringing...</a><p>8.7M users!

I put Brave on the backburner a while ago because of some random display glitches, mostly on YouTube, and the built-in adblocker not really being up to par with something like uBO. but this sounds like a good an excuse as any to try it again.

Not sure about the politics... but it&#x27;s noticeably faster than Chrome or Firefox.

I&#x27;m unable to download, the server is returning 502 - bad gateway<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;updates.bravesoftware.com&#x2F;service&#x2F;update2" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;updates.bravesoftware.com&#x2F;service&#x2F;update2</a>

Is this the browser that blocks ads unless the website allows brave ads and get brave crypto. Essentially the same model the mafia uses. I&#x27;m sure this will go great.

I&#x27;ve been using Brave as a replacement for Chrome for about 3 months now. The switch has been quite enjoyable.<p>Lighthouse doesn&#x27;t seem to work properly, which I use Chrome for.

It&#x27;s so weird, I had this exact idea when bitcoin came out. But it seemed like you&#x27;d need a money transmitter license to be able to do it? So I gave up.

I don&#x27;t trust anything build on top of chromium web browser developed by Google. Definitely google will have some way to track user.<p>I prefer Firefox for trust in privacy.

Getting a 504 error on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;</a>

I&#x27;ve been using Brave since October 2018 and haven&#x27;t checked once for updates. It seems that I&#x27;ve been using v0.7 lol

How does this compare to Opera? I prefer to use a Chromium browser and Opera has been fantastic for months as my main browser.

Great mission, product and vision. Very excited to see more functionality in browser away from the traditional rails

Source for the performance claims? Are they not upstreaming performance change for chromium?

General reminder that Brave is a scam; they forcefully converted user funds that were held in BTC to their own competitive token, BAT, which seeks to monetize your attention.<p>Not to mention the massive privacy leak that is a public network of transactions, revealing browsing habits by way of advertising payments.

I love Brave, keep it going :)

Brave gives life back to the internet, like Daft Punk gave life back to music.

Brave: we disable all ads<p>Brave: hey you want rewards? here&#x27;s some notification ads

Front end developers: “yet another browser to support”

another option - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.optmein.online&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.optmein.online&#x2F;</a>

Initially I liked the concept of brave, but they destroyed themselves by bloating it with this coin&#x2F;payment stuff that is not possible to remove 100%. Back to Firefox now.

Regardless of Brave&#x27;s intent, they operate in the advertising industry, and eventually, if not already, it will become a conflict of interest.

I wonder how much brave.com was?

Still no extensions sync?

I stopped reading once I saw it has a way to show advertisements

1.0 Chrome B

BLOCKCHAIN! Let&#x27;s throw money at it!

Fuck ads. Fuck tracking. Fuck making me part of your &#x27;audience&#x27;. There has to be a better way. I&#x27;m going with blocking until there is a better answer. Brave may be a step in the right direction but its not the solution.

No thanks. Sticking with Firefox.

Brave is a scam just like most &quot;privacy centered&quot; parasite products like DDG and VPN providers. All these companies are run by shameless and aggressive useless parasites who actually offer nothing but a rebranded product made by others. It&#x27;s sad that a community supposedly filled by software engineers fall for and promote such scams

I am all for fighting capitalism, but I wont tolerate any form of ads. Ads are a threat for free thinking. They are pollution, poison, for the mind. I dont want to face any form of manipulation.<p>Beside, Brave is chromium based. If you want to fight the chrome monopoly, go somewhere else.<p>I could be fine with a fork of Firefox with a preinstall uBlockOrigin, Privacy Possum, facebook container, etc.

Why does the BAT mining extension continue to run even if I opt-out of the rewards system?

They still aren&#x27;t brave enough to use a unique user agent string. Brave on left, Chrome on right.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;aPI776u.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;aPI776u.png</a>

Whoever uses Brave for &quot;privacy&quot; reasons should understand that Chrome offers more privacy due to fingerprintability.<p>I see the downvotes coming yet it is true check it for yourself. Brave is so easy to fingerprint compared to Chrome it defeats any purpose ever to use Brave in the first place if privacy is your main goal. Removing all the Google bits from the Chromium base doesn&#x27;t help since you are so fingerprintable.

<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;malvertising-homeland-security&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;malvertising-homeland-security&#x2F;</a> &quot;Brave warns US Senate &amp; Congress: foreign state actors can use targeted ads to run code on US government computers, exploiting conventional browsers&quot;<p>Oh, my. I am so scared. And Brave is of course a knight in shining armor ready to protect our shaken foundations.

Brave was initially an interesting browser, but without any options to disable the credits&#x2F;money add-ons the browser have no future.