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Taylor Swift: Don’t know what else to do

106 点作者 garyng超过 5 年前

18 条评论

ggm超过 5 年前
<i>(not a tay tay fan. not actually listening to much music these days, I can&#x27;t quite get Bach and Beefheart out of my head)</i><p>Normally I&#x27;m a &quot;the contract sets the limits&quot; person but in artist&#x27;s rights, an given the extent to which artists are both young, and exploited, and wind up in legally dubious relationships which then magify out and up, I think the intent should be &quot;what&#x27;s the right thing here, no matter what the contract says&quot;<p>And I think unless she received heinous amounts of fuck you money, and sold her rights for their current worth, unless she did that, if this is just normal A&amp;R nickel-and-diming, then they should be told to go away, and she should get to perform her songs.<p><i>&quot;you can&#x27;t perform your songs&quot;</i> is a very sad place to wind up. it does nobody any good.<p>She very possibly did receive heinous amounts of A&amp;R support but I would also believe a lot of leeching has been going on. The industry is a giant machine to suck revenue out of art and put it into tax efficient structures for other people.<p>They learned from masters: the movie industry. Who did those masters learn from? The Sheet music industry.<p>Pop will eat itself.
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stupendousyappi超过 5 年前
Evidently, starting next year, Swift will have the legal right to do something harmful to the owners of Big Machine Records- rerecord her old songs. The owners of that company currently have the legal right to prevent her from playing her old songs. There are many artists who I think have been exploited by the executives of their industry, but Taylor Swift isn&#x27;t one of them. I expect that she was generously compensated for giving up ownership of those songs. If she wants to change the terms of that deal, the other parties have offered to negotiate.
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bhauer超过 5 年前
For those who, like me, don&#x27;t visit the domain called facebook dot com: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;taylorswift13&#x2F;status&#x2F;1195123215657508867?s=20" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;taylorswift13&#x2F;status&#x2F;1195123215657508867...</a>
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yellow_lead超过 5 年前
&gt;The message being sent to me is very clear. Basically, be a good little girl and shut up. Or you’ll be punished.<p>&gt;This is WRONG.<p>Is that the message? Is it not the case that this is the result of a legally binding contract?
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xwowsersx超过 5 年前
Can someone explain the background here? I only have a vague idea of how the music industry works. I don&#x27;t understand what&#x27;s going on here.
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gorgoiler超过 5 年前
I think there are two things that weaken Swift’s message here:<p>1&#x2F; There’s no need to call out gender — “be a good little girl and shut up”, referring to “these men”, etc. Not during 2019’s entertainment industry harassment crisis. This is an intellectual property rights issue but it feels like Swift is trying to nudge it in another direction, unfairly.<p>2&#x2F; When your net worth is measured in the hundreds of millions of dollars it seems calculating and disingenuous to try to have your way in the court of public opinion. Asking your fans to directly contact the other party in the legal dispute feels like straight up bullying.
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czottmann超过 5 年前
Full text, readable away from FB: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outline.com&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;notes&#x2F;taylor-swift&#x2F;dont-know-what-else-to-do&#x2F;10156631338812023&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outline.com&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;notes&#x2F;taylor-sw...</a><p>PSA: I just prepend <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outline.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outline.com&#x2F;</a> to the URL of a FB post to get the actual text (as FB domains are resolved to 0.0.0.0 in my house).
cheez超过 5 年前
Wait, so she sold &quot;her&quot; music and it&#x27;s no longer hers....<p>What am I missing here?
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yevster超过 5 年前
So she’s crying a river over being forced to live up to the obligations of contracts she willingly signed. Most of her fans reading this can only dream of having a fraction of the breaks she’s had or the money she’s made. So she won’t have a documentary about her on Netflix. Neither will anyone reading this, but somehow we’re all supposed to feel sorry or outraged for her?
iamleppert超过 5 年前
Apparently she doesn’t understand the concept of ownership. Yes, she created the songs.<p>However, once you sell something to someone else it no longer belongs to you. This includes works of art.
amluto超过 5 年前
She’s too young and her music is too recent to invoke her right to terminate her copyright transfer, which would otherwise be a nice solution.
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cameldrv超过 5 年前
Cf <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5352108" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5352108</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.negativland.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;?page_id=17" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.negativland.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;?page_id=17</a>
brazzledazzle超过 5 年前
Was this flagged by moderators? @dang
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dylan604超过 5 年前
Maybe she can turn herself into a symbol, and fix it that way?
fredsanford超过 5 年前
Maybe she should talk to John Fogerty...
thewinnie超过 5 年前
isn&#x27;t she been trying to trademark 22 number?<p>and once we swap sides, will she act differently?
rambojazz超过 5 年前
She should try CC-BY-SA.
wruza超过 5 年前
Pretty sure that with such a huge fan base, these guys could appear to sexually harass a couple of acquaintances or more. This is a very unstable situation happening right now, depending on their positions in the business. Maybe it’s better to let the girl sing her songs? Everyone would win.