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Google Chrome experiment crashes browser tabs, impacts companies worldwide

155 点作者 pasharayan超过 5 年前

20 条评论

Slartie超过 5 年前
I chuckled at this:<p>&gt; &quot;Do you see the impact you created for thousands of us without any warning or explanation? We are not your test subjects,&quot; said an angry sysadmin. &quot;We are running professional services for multi million dollar programs. Do you understand how many hours of resources were wasted by your &#x27;experiment&#x27;?&quot;<p>Did you, dear sysadmin, pay anything for Google Chrome? No? Are you in any contractual relation to Google that covers your use of Chrome? No? Well, there you have it. You are not a customer, hence you aren&#x27;t really in any position to demand anything. You basically agreed to take whatever Google shoves down your throat for free, and if that includes &quot;experiments&quot;, then that&#x27;s what it is.<p>If your multi-million dollar programs move so much money around, maybe take some of that to either invest in the necessary software - including the browser - so you are a paying customer and may actually demand anything, or pay some people to be up to date on the intricacies of Google Chrome and test them under your environment or disable them if undesired. The experiments are not exactly a secret program and have existed for a while. Firefox has a similar thing going. The Firefox one can definitely be disabled. The Chrome one unfortunately not (at least I don&#x27;t know of a way at the moment, there might be one, maybe it&#x27;s also only available for the Enterprise subscription that I have never personally heard of any business to be using, but for which money is actually paid, hence there might be leverage in that case to force Google to offer an opt-out).<p>Or ultimately you could also just compile yourself a Chromium from scratch and update it regularly. I&#x27;ve done it, it&#x27;s not that hard, and that gets you the ultimate level of control over that nice free piece of software that you depend your business upon.
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omh超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been dealing with this bug for the last couple of days and it&#x27;s been hugely frustrating.<p>This was not a new version of Chrome or a software update. None of our software was updated at all (and we spent a long time checking!). But apparently Google have an ability to change a setting and globally affect the behaviour of all Chrome browsers by enabling experimental features.<p>We carefully manage our software updates and patching so that we can test it and roll back if it impacts the business. Google had been good at understanding &quot;enterprise&quot; requirements - disabling automatic updates, setting policies etc. But this shows that they&#x27;re really focused on consumers and business users will always be an afterthought.
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voiper1超过 5 年前
&gt;Many didn&#x27;t know that Chrome engineers could run experiments on their tightly-controlled Chrome installations, let alone that Google engineers could just ship changes to everyone&#x27;s browsers without any prior approval.<p>Uhm, isn&#x27;t that the entire auto-update feature, that google ships changes without you even being aware?
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cimnine超过 5 年前
If something is critical infrastructure for you, better make sure you have a backup.<p>I&#x27;ve seen this in a Swiss government agency that has Firefox installed exactly for this purpose. Their main browser is the built-in one, but if it can&#x27;t or must not be used (e.g. because of a zero-day threat), they can quickly roll out a change to make Firefox the default browser until the problem&#x2F;threat is over.
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transreal超过 5 年前
This is the trouble with Google&#x27;s aggressive auto-update policy. &quot;Everyone is always on the latest&quot; is mandated because everyone should have the latest security updates, but it works great except when it doesn&#x27;t.<p>Another example is a recent issue where a Chrome update broke WebView based Android apps and stopped them from being able to make certain types of network requests. It was fixed in 2 weeks, but that 2 week period was full of unhappy customers and lost revenue.<p>I&#x27;m hoping the upcoming Chromium based Edge from Microsoft will allow IT Admins to control when a browser update is rolled out and give them more control over the update process.<p>Chrome auto-updates can be disabled for networks behind a firewall by blocking the update server address, but that&#x27;s a very crude way, and doesn&#x27;t allow for updating a test machine to see how the new version works, or updating to the latest minus 1 version.
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chaz6超过 5 年前
With Edge being based on Chromium I expect many corporations will start switching away from Google Chrome, but it&#x27;s just swapping one corporate overlord for another.
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chris_wot超过 5 年前
I think we are now seeing that the attitude of Google in the way they treat Chrome users is seriously worrying. There are now a litany if issues - from adversely affecting ad blockers, linking Google sync to logons to Gmail and to now rolling out “experiments” unannounced... surely by now it is time to seriously consider Firefox?<p>Of course, Mozilla needs to make sure they never enable extensions like the way they did for the Mr Robot one many years ago...
slenk超过 5 年前
So when Firefox did this earlier in the year for the expired cert, everyone was freaking out that Mozilla had that ability.<p>Where is all the freaking out at Chrome? My theory is that is was mostly Chrome users (the majority) complaining last time when they had no personal experience.
asah超过 5 年前
There&#x27;s lots of browsers out there, why are these environments single-sourced to Chrome? Hope is not a strategy.
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Shorel超过 5 年前
The problem I see here is that companies are not moving to Firefox en masse.
BuckRogers超过 5 年前
I’ve seen Chrome in so many corporate environments and never understood why. Native browsers work fine and are crafted to work reliably in the environment they’re used in. My guess is some admins simply like Chrome and thus decided everyone should. I like Firefox but I keep it at home, at work I use Microsoft Edge.
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a3n超过 5 年前
Except for the intent, it sounds like an attack.<p>&quot;The attack is only possible through a carefully crafted browser ...&quot;
CJefferson超过 5 年前
What&#x27;s the alternative?<p>Google thought this feature was polished, finished, and ready for release. What used to happen was it would be pushed out in an update, and then everyone on a server would have seen the crash. This &quot;experiment&quot; is just slow releasing.
user740372超过 5 年前
Can we stop the &quot;not paying, no demanding&quot; BS? First it&#x27;s unfair to silence people just because they are not paying. Second, we are always paying. If not with money with our privacy.
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sjustinas超过 5 年前
While Google might have fucked up, what could possibly be your workflow where a single crashed tab costs you one and a half day&#x27;s of work?
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Animats超过 5 年前
Enterprise environments don&#x27;t click on ads, so they don&#x27;t matter to Google.<p>Enterprise IT management should realize this.
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hieloz超过 5 年前
I came arcoss the loading circle tab suspending on Chrome 78.0.3904.97.Even if I close the tab,the circle was still on browser,Finally I had to restore down the chrome in order to clear it up.
lightedman超过 5 年前
Its about time Google had a CFAA charge brought against them. I&#x27;m pretty sure most network admins didn&#x27;t know Google had such a whopper of a backdoor deliberately snuck in through their security measures.
lessname超过 5 年前
Even though it might break sometimes, it is one of the reasons why I choose Chrome over Firefox: The updates on Firefox take just too long (mostly before starting) on Chrome they just happen... However, it would be nice if they asked before.
rbdeveloper超过 5 年前
Thank god Brave has field trials disabled by default [1], among many other Google &quot;services&quot; [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;4283" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;issues&#x2F;4283</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Deviations-from-Chromium-(features-we-disable-or-remove)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;brave&#x2F;brave-browser&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Deviations-from-...</a>