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NUVIA: New Server CPU Startup Going After Intel and AMD

98 点作者 l31g超过 5 年前

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CalChris超过 5 年前
Well, NUVIA has to first design something with a competitive advantage over Intel&#x27;s chips, then they have to manufacture it and then they have to sell it. Those are three separate and hard problems.<p>With the first problem, they can simplify things considerably by paying an ARM tax. The RISC-V tax is less ($0) but then it offers them less as well. If they design their own ISA, well, good luck with that. Also, clouds like tweaks, so one size won&#x27;t fit all.<p>With the second problem, there&#x27;s fab space to be had for sufficient coin. But there&#x27;s more to manufacturing than filling out a webform and sending a tape with a check.<p>If they can get past the first two hurdles and actually deliver silicon which is significantly better than Intel&#x27;s then marketing to the big clouds should be the least problematic.<p>Gonna take some money and time. Gulati left Google in March.
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djsumdog超过 5 年前
I feel like to succeed here, you need to make an offering that can immediately run either a mainline Linux kernel or a totally open fork (with the intent of getting committed to mainline) and making sure all the major toolchains can build and run on it.<p>Unless there&#x27;s a minimum friction to migrate, most companies won&#x27;t make the effort even if they can save a few $100 per server. It takes me back to Intel&#x27;s VLIW attempt with Itanium&#x2F;EPIC. Even when they got compilers up to snuff, too many high end tasks (video encoding) either required special instructions or were written in assembly that couldn&#x27;t easily be ported to EPIC instructions.
mkj超过 5 年前
Clever name, simultaneously looking like NVIDIA but sounding like Via resurrected.
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neftaly超过 5 年前
Someday someone is gonna make a bunch of money selling CPUs implementing a WASM VM (&quot;death of javascript&quot;) and&#x2F;or lambda calc (Reduceron) in hardware.
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justicezyx超过 5 年前
This is mostly hype, but I am guessing they will adopt an accelerator approach for modern server computing in a data center. There are a few canonical computing pattern inside modern data center:<p>Data crunching Fungible is already on that<p>Distributed services a lot of fan in and fan out some kind of chips that can combine IO networking and moderate general computing instructions can be useful<p>Massive code data storage<p>Catching servers?<p>Overall, I see no reason to take AMD Intel heads on... It&#x27;s not necessarily anyway, no one needs a third x86 player. We want to have true architecture disruptor...
m0zg超过 5 年前
I really hope this is a RISC-V play of some sort. Otherwise I don&#x27;t see how they can win. Apple does better ARM than anyone. Given the level of investment, nobody is going to out-Apple Apple in this area. Beefy, cheap, power efficient, legacy-free RISC-V, now that&#x27;s something I&#x27;d be interested in.
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shmerl超过 5 年前
Would be interesting if they&#x27;ll develop totally new micro architecture and ISA from scratch.
dddw超过 5 年前
ok, let&#x27;s see what they bring to the table
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rolltiide超过 5 年前
Ugh that name<p>Nybody want to<p>NUke them from high orbit?
wademealing超过 5 年前
I have a feeling that its a CPU designed with side-channel attacks in mind. Could be Intel, could be ARM.