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A Century of “Shrill”: How Bias in Technology Has Hurt Women’s Voices

24 点作者 augustocallejas超过 5 年前

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Nition超过 5 年前
It&#x27;s a bit of a stretch to connect such ancient data on recording and playback technology - their <i>most recent</i> citation is from 1933! - with a drop in female voice pitch. Microphones and playback quality have come a long way (tinny phone speakers notwithstanding).<p>If there has been a desire to lower voice pitch to sound more authoritative&#x2F;less &quot;shrill&quot;, I suspect it&#x27;s much more of a general social issue than a technological one.
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crazygringo超过 5 年前
This is a fascinating article historically, but I find it hard to believe it has much relevance to how women speak or are perceived today.<p>I&#x27;ve done a lot of voice coaching, and a <i>lot</i> of people -- men and women -- don&#x27;t speak at the pitch that is healthiest and most relaxed for their vocal apparatus. Some are higher, some are lower.<p>Because pitch is often very cultural <i>and</i> emotional. People&#x27;s pitch varies when they speak different languages, or even dialects&#x2F;accents. And <i>everyone&#x27;s</i> pitch increases when they&#x27;re more emotional, and decreases when they&#x27;re more relaxed -- a deeper, more relaxed voice <i>relative to your normal pitch</i> conveys confidence and control in both men <i>and</i> women. Actors learn to change their pitch (and breathing, volume, resonance, etc.) to whatever is called for in the part.<p>I appreciate that early telephones may have clipped consonants for women, being designed for men&#x27;s voices -- but if anything that&#x27;s the <i>opposite</i> of &quot;shrill&quot;. In any case, audio quality today is spectacular so it&#x27;s certainly no longer the case.<p>So while pitch is a fascinating subject, I don&#x27;t really find myself buying into the notion that female speech patterns are a result of pressure from male norms, whether technological or otherwise.
WalterBright超过 5 年前
Men are also frequently advised to lower the tone of their voice to convey more gravitas. This is for personal interactions - nothing to do with electronic bandwidth.<p>Besides, electronic bandwidth these days is of necessity set up for music, and so should be ample for higher voices.<p>(I have noticed that VOIP is much easier for me to understand than POTS, and cell phones are the worst. Cell phone voice quality hasn&#x27;t improved since I got my first cell phone in the early 90&#x27;s.)
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yowlingcat超过 5 年前
&gt; A century of negative commentary on the female voice has had wide-ranging effects: a 1998 study of young Australian women found that the average frequency of female speech dropped twenty-three hertz between 1945 and 1993. Margaret Thatcher famously worked with voice coaches to hone her auditory image, dropping her voice sixty hertz between the nineteen-sixties and the nineteen-eighties. One of the most notable of the many bizarre deceptions in the Theranos saga involved Elizabeth Holmes’s deep voice; when I analyzed recordings of her speaking I found that the disparity between what is likely her real voice and her performative one is around a hundred hertz, which, in that range, is equivalent to nearly half an octave.<p>Wow -- this is absolutely fascinating. I always dismissed Elizabeth Holmes&#x27; low voice as a weird quirk, but now I realize there&#x27;s actually a pretty concrete (and sad) historical rationale to it.
byproxy超过 5 年前
If anyone thinks the sound of one&#x27;s voice has anything to do with how seriously one ought to be taken.... listen to these bad dude&#x27;s speak:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WO-E7zOHHp0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=WO-E7zOHHp0</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wudTamJwYAM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wudTamJwYAM</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KG-xC8Mu6SM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KG-xC8Mu6SM</a>
baxrob超过 5 年前
Related: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wnycstudios.org&#x2F;podcasts&#x2F;otm&#x2F;segments&#x2F;how-radio-made-female-voices-sound-shrill" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wnycstudios.org&#x2F;podcasts&#x2F;otm&#x2F;segments&#x2F;how-radio-...</a>
_Codemonkeyism超过 5 年前
What I always found interesting how children in the US sound &quot;shrill&quot; to my European ear, I think children have much lower voices here in Europe (Germany). Anyone else with the same perception? Or is it just in my imagination?
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deogeo超过 5 年前
In related news, there was an experiment where Hillary and Trump&#x27;s genders were swapped - it turned out a female Trump was <i>more</i> popular than the male version: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inc.com&#x2F;suzanne-lucas&#x2F;if-donald-trump-were-a-woman-youd-like-him-more.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inc.com&#x2F;suzanne-lucas&#x2F;if-donald-trump-were-a-wom...</a>