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Story of Odoo: Open-Sourced Competitor to Oracle, SAP

195 点作者 ankitkumar98超过 5 年前

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the_angry_angel超过 5 年前
I’ve been working with Odoo for about a year implementing it for a small-medium business in the UK (lots of customisations, general specing out etc, working with their partners, etc. So not all dev). Disclaimer I’ve not yet touched v13.<p>The good; The OCA (community association), the people (both community and Odoo), the basic framework gets you up and running fast. You can tell it’s grown over time, and it’s got sharp edges, but you can get what you need done. Not necessarily in the prettiest way. The backwards compatibility and desire to not break the core APIs is generally good from what I’ve seen so far. Individual modules depends how much Odoo themselves lean on it afaict. GitHub access for partners and direct source access to both enterprise and community editions has been extremely helpful.<p>The bad; imho testing is a pain. The ORM uses Polish notation to build filters, which if you’re used to SQL is frankly irritating to work with. The ORM itself is quite clever, but it’s also not like any ORM I’ve worked with. The dev docs aren’t great, beyond the basics. The quality of modules in the “App Store” is extremely hit or miss. Odoo official “support” as a partner is questionable. I feel like they’re under pressure to get you to pay up to be a partner and then some period of time you might get help later. Anecdotally I’m led to believe our partner account manager has been pushing us hard to host a local event at our own cost (I’m not that involved with that side). The last few versions have seen more accounting features drop out of community edition. Some of the official apps are basic.<p>Is it better than SAP, Dynamics, etc.? Probably not. Is it good enough given the price point and flexibility, for smaller businesses? Probably, especially if the business has been tying together lots of apps adhoc.
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unixhero超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve used it for several small businesses with near zero IT budgets. It&#x27;s been great and an enabler. The CRM for instance is brilliant. In a way gave us a complete governance system for many of the company&#x27;s staple processes. It could also support our manufacturing process!<p>The feature set is unstable though. From version to version they will remove first class features from COMMUNITY EDITION to ENTERPRISE.<p>Biggest for me was financial accounting, which was removed.<p>Some new large features to trickle down to COMMUNITY also, so the pendulum swings both ways. However I don&#x27;t see this instability as anything good for the community edition users.
RcouF1uZ4gsC超过 5 年前
I am of the opinion that open source, venture capital based companies are a disaster waiting to happen. Open source is just not compatible with the large return on investments that venture capital is built on.<p>These companies will happily take the goodwill and source contributions that come from being open source and then eventually try to monetize by abandoning their open source license.
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mu_killnine超过 5 年前
This is fascinating.<p>I work for a large enterprise that has basically written its own ERP from scratch. There&#x27;s a lot of rough edges but it&#x27;s very tailored for our workflow and processes.<p>I&#x27;ve toyed with the idea of what I&#x27;d build if I could largely take what I know and start fresh (standard exercise in madness, I know) in order to learn about the bits I am not familiar with (I&#x27;m more in manufacturing, know very little about CRM and accounting processes).<p>It was very interesting coming across this only a few weeks ago and seeing this here. Starting it up in a docker container was a snap and it had a number of free modules that were easy to add. It&#x27;s very basic but gets the point across and was a fun learning experience (and nice because it&#x27;s in a language I don&#x27;t currently develop in, python).<p>Just thought the timing was peculiar and enjoyed hearing about folks here harping on ERP development as soul-crushing. Yes, it can be at times, but I also really enjoy how it lets me really dig into my company&#x27;s processes. When you get it right, it can make your users sing with joy when you help speed things up or streamline things.<p>I don&#x27;t know where I was going with this but just enjoyed the article :)
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CuriousReader13超过 5 年前
How does Odoo compare with Tryton (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tryton.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tryton.org&#x2F;</a>) today?<p>For a little background, Tryton is a fork of Odoo when it was still called TinyERP, motivated by disagreements among TinyERP founders and early developers on the technical and business directions.<p>See 2016 HN discussion <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12985791" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12985791</a>
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illuminated超过 5 年前
There&#x27;s a fork of Odoo called Flectra [0]. Feature wise they are almost identical, but there&#x27;s a difference in paid vs. unpaid versions. Flectra gives all the features for free and you pay the support if you need it.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flectrahq.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flectrahq.com&#x2F;</a>
sam_lowry_超过 5 年前
The founder and the other two guys that were there in the beginning are still the biggest committers in odoo. It&#x27;s a striking difference from pg or zuck or other people the same position in US who only have toy projects.
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dang超过 5 年前
Related from 2014: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7750020" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7750020</a><p>2012: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4904741" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4904741</a>
thrower123超过 5 年前
I can&#x27;t imagine wanting to spend my free time contributing to anything that&#x27;s in the same class of software as Oracle or SAP. That&#x27;s a hard hill to climb for an open-source project - ERP is just soul-sucking drudgery, at the best of times.<p>At best I can imagine having to use the thing for work, and at least being able to hack in a fix for a bug. Assuming I can actually get the whole thing to build. And that there&#x27;s any stomach in the organization for customization that isn&#x27;t on somebody else&#x27;s liability.
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ofrzeta超过 5 年前
I recently got a job offer from Odoo and from what I could gather they seem to be a nice company with an open source culture. Unfortunately working as a developer for Odoo means moving to some place in the Belgian countryside (or to Gandhinagar, India)
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CharlesW超过 5 年前
How is this 15-year-old company, which isn&#x27;t mentioned in any &quot;ERP vendors&quot; roundup that I can find, a &quot;breakout startup&quot; (to quote the actual title)? They appear to have little to no momentum.<p>&gt; <i>Odoo is largely profitable…</i><p>What is the difference between &quot;largely profitable&quot; and &quot;not profitable&quot;?
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dr_faustus超过 5 年前
We have used Scipio ERP (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scipioerp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scipioerp.com&#x2F;</a>), which is based on OFBiz, in a couple of projects. It&#x27;s very flexible and easily integrates with other systems (using Camel). It&#x27;s more suited to bigger businesses, though. Some components are closed but 95% are Apache licensed.<p>Disclaimer: I&#x27;m friends with the devs behind Scipio.
unixhero超过 5 年前
If anyone wants to try the community version of Odoo out, here&#x27;s a script which will install it in pretty much one command. I&#x27;ve used this for several years, it&#x27;s now bumped the installer to version 13.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Yenthe666&#x2F;InstallScript" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Yenthe666&#x2F;InstallScript</a><p>It runs fine even on Digital Ocean USD5 instances.<p>Thanks Yenthe666!
pillefitz超过 5 年前
Does anyone know how the market for Odoo consulting looks like?
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eldy10超过 5 年前
You should also have a look at Dolibarr ERP CRM (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dolibarr&#x2F;dolibarr" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dolibarr&#x2F;dolibarr</a> or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dolibarr.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dolibarr.org</a> for portal). Its another free ERP and CRM (GNU GPL v3) which is fuly Open Source (no proprietary version). It is a modular and easy to use ERP and CRM. The addon store contains several hundred of extensions but in most cases you can find all what you need with the hundred of modules available by default with standard distribution.
JackPoach超过 5 年前
Bitrix24 has been pretty successful going against Odoo, though Bitrix24 is not an ERP system per say - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bitrix24.com&#x2F;tools&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bitrix24.com&#x2F;tools&#x2F;</a> . The hybrid approach (Bitrix24 is free in cloud, source code is available to commercial users) seems to work great with businesses that have a limited budget. Open source products are great but unless you are a techie yourself, high labor costs make deployment too expensive oftentimes. This is especially true for smaller project with small or no budget.
NicoJuicy超过 5 年前
Fyi, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;erpnext.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;erpnext.com&#x2F;</a> is a competitor of oodoo ( called openerp before) and it&#x27;s more opensource.
cristatus超过 5 年前
Have a look at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;axelor.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;axelor.com</a>, a fully open source business platform using Java technologies...
fractalf超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been working with Odoo now for about 2 years. (TLDR; Oddo works fine, but it&#x27;s documentation really suck). It&#x27;s great when you want some basic stuff up and running fast. However, my biggest beef about this stack is the lack of good documentation. If you want to build custom stuff there&#x27;s a huge investment in time to get your head around how things are working. Basically you have to read and understand a lot of the source code to get complicated stuff done. When stuck on &quot;more than basic&quot; stuff it&#x27;s not unusual to spend days figuring out things. Hell, even basic stuff is hard to grasp sometimes. Don&#x27;t even ask how much time I spend making VusJS integrate with Odoo.
AlexTrask超过 5 年前
Odoo its opensource but they don&#x27;t accept pull request.
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