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How has Prop. 13 affected tax distribution in Santa Clara County?

30 点作者 80mph超过 5 年前

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dartdartdart超过 5 年前
The benefactors who currently own these homes are passing them down to relatives without passing down the new higher property tax. What&#x27;s more is that homes that people who were &#x27;lucky&#x27; to buy in the past, such as Palo Alto properties, benefited from white-only clauses: &quot;No person not wholly of the white Caucasian race shall use or occupy such property unless such person or persons are employed as servants of the occupants.&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paloaltoonline.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;housings-troubled-history-of-discrimination" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paloaltoonline.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;housings-trou...</a><p>It&#x27;s historically unfair, and nothing to my knowledge has been done to undo the damage from discriminatory housing policies.<p>If you want to read more, here&#x27;s a recent 2019 study review on the economic damage from unfair housing policies in Chicago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;local&#x2F;309&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;30&#x2F;728122642&#x2F;contract-buying-robbed-black-families-in-chicago-of-billions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;local&#x2F;309&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;30&#x2F;728122642&#x2F;contract-...</a>
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jedberg超过 5 年前
Every time Prop 13 comes up, I like to tell the story of my own neighborhood.<p>On my block are four almost identical houses. They are all about 1800sq ft.<p>My neighbor, who is the original owner from 1962, pays $X in tax. My neighbor on the other side, who bought in the 90s, pays $10X. I pay $20X (bought in 2008), and the one who just moved into the last house pays $40X.<p>We all get the same services from the city, but one person pays 40X the other. The new owners are basically subsidizing the neighbors, despite being the ones who have to spend more of their income to pay their mortgage.<p>It&#x27;s completely ridiculous.
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Ericson2314超过 5 年前
The simply fact (as articulated by CityLab article whose name I forget) is &quot;housing cannot be both affordable and a good investment&quot;.<p>Encouraging the desperation of capital through mass home ownership is a cruel joke. Even ignoring the fact that relatively few &quot;homeowners&quot; have paid off their morgage (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fivethirtyeight.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;how-many-homeowners-have-paid-off-their-mortgages&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fivethirtyeight.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;how-many-homeowners-hav...</a>), the value extracted is basically by rent seeking against other maybe future member of the same &quot;middle class&quot;.<p>People should own capital through a UBI (common ownership of a bit of everything) or actual productive enterprise (your immigrant small businesses), not price gouge each other.
JMTQp8lwXL超过 5 年前
Prop 13 is rent control by another name. I would love to hear economists speak as damningly about Prop 13 as they regularly do about rent control.
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sabujp超过 5 年前
Repeal prop 13 so everyone pays a fair share, get rid of single unit detached homes in metros with high population density and build lots of high density housing condos and town houses, e.g. say a 3 bedroom that a family making at least 140k can afford on a 30 year. Get rid of stupid expensive HOAs. One can dream.
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tingletech超过 5 年前
I was in the second grade when prop 13 passed, but I still remember a palpable change in the morale of teachers the day this passed. I think the split roll thing makes sense, but I made the mistake of getting involved in some facebook discussion about this -- some folks are so in love with prop 13, you would think it was the second amendment.
bluejekyll超过 5 年前
Why should we care about single family property taxes set at the time of purchase?<p>People move, and sell, or pass away and their families then acquire the property and must decide what to do. There’s a reasonable question to discuss about prop 13 passing from parents to children, but in general property turnover on single family homes in the US are 5-7 years. Focusing on this part of prop 13 is almost intended to cause people to fight each other rather than the real problem.<p>Corporations don’t pass away. Even when they are acquired by other corporations, they try to block reassessment of property. I can’t at the moment find what happened with the taxes after all of the bank acquisitions in 2008, but I do remember them fighting any increases based on the fact that the property did not change hands.<p>There are other corporate properties in CA that also have never increased their tax bill, such as Disneyland. So as we consider removing prop 13 protections from corporations in 2020, let’s remember that corporations don’t die, but people (sadly) on the other hand do. Any correction in the market of taxes on your home is setup almost exactly the way we want. People on a fixed income don’t need to worry about paying more, while people benefiting from the current economy can.
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briandear超过 5 年前
According to the article, tax receipts would double if property taxes reflected their current value.<p>So we could repeal 13 and cut property taxes in half and still have the same tax receipts we do now.<p>As far as keeping “grandma” in her home, if she is sitting on $2 million in equity, why should she get to pay lower taxes than someone who first buys a $2 million house with minimal equity? Neighbors paying vastly different tax rates for similar properties is unjust. Their consumption of public services isn’t different but grandma pays less than the young family just getting started. That’s ridiculous. Not to mention grandma is probably living in a 5 bedroom house alone with her five cats — which is an underutilization of scarce housing resources. Taxation should be absolutely equal.<p>I, for example, have kids in private schools, but I still have to pay property taxes to support the local public schools and get no deduction for that tuition despite me not consuming those resources. I’m ok with that because public schools are important, but when grandma next door pays a fraction of what I pay, it’s extremely unfair that I have to subsidize grandma. She isn’t my grandma.
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