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Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

171 点作者 80mph超过 5 年前

13 条评论

vjktyu超过 5 年前
Good for them. As for the tech workers, they need something like a guild with membership fees and staff lawyers that would sue the state for allowing binding arbitration and non compete agreements (i.e. do what California did).
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mark_l_watson超过 5 年前
Good for them. I mostly ate at their Mexican cafe and Authentic Asian Cafe (I forget the exact name), but sampled many others. The cafeteria workers would remember me, be friendly and helpful, and certainly deserve to make a good living.<p>I used to be ambivalent about labor unions but in modern times when corporations act as all powerful gods, hell yes, unionize.
gbronner超过 5 年前
Expect google to start &quot;optimizing&quot; the cafeteria soon enough.
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freeopinion超过 5 年前
Imagine a gigantic apartment building in San Francisco. Let&#x27;s say some 400-unit monster. Then picture a campus with four of those buildings.<p>Then realize that such a campus could not house all the Google employees in the area. Then realize that such a campus could not house just the Google cafeteria workers in the area.
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whatitdobooboo超过 5 年前
Does anyone have any good&#x2F;neutral book recommendations on unionization?
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reaperducer超过 5 年前
I have mixed feelings about unions, but I&#x27;m OK with this move.<p>Cafeteria workers need unions. The maids who muck out hotel room toilets need unions. Coal miners who work in horrific conditions for little pay need unions.<p>You know who doesn&#x27;t need unions? Millionaire TV anchors. Millionaire movie studio execs and actors. Anyone who makes six figures, which includes a hell of a lot of union members. In those cases the unions need the members, not the other way &#x27;round, and it leads to greed and corruption because all both sides can see is dollar signs.<p>So, again. I think it&#x27;s good that the caf workers got some protection. I&#x27;m still on the fence about computer programmers, though.
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ryanseys超过 5 年前
Disclaimer: FTE at Verily (Google Life Sciences)<p>Sounds like this isn&#x27;t the first time this has happened and won&#x27;t be the last. Both Compass (the firm that employs these cafeteria workers) and Google both have experience working with unions and are committed to working through this. Happy that these employees are getting the representation they deserve. I hope this means that these people will get better benefits that Google FTEs enjoy and stronger protections.<p>As a FTE at Verily (an Alphabet subsidiary), the management&#x27;s priorities are very clearly not focused on challenging the status quo in these areas -- they are focused on running the &quot;core business&quot;. I can only guess the sentiment is similar within Google.<p>I look forward to seeing this issue continue to get light and hope that business priorities evolve to incorporate the more humanistic aspects of running a business instead of simply focusing on the bottom line all the time.
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tehjoker超过 5 年前
This was a really great Twitter thread about how capitalism isn&#x27;t really about meritocracy but about bargaining power and by implication how necessary unions are for workers to be treated humanely and paid more than the bare minimum for survival:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ArashKolahi&#x2F;status&#x2F;1210332075787608065" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ArashKolahi&#x2F;status&#x2F;1210332075787608065</a>
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seemslegit超过 5 年前
I wonder if they can now help people who lost access to their gmail accounts because they wouldn&#x27;t give google their phone number
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greatscott404超过 5 年前
The only reason labor unions are legal is that certain unions have outsized political clout, in a perfect world labor unions would be illegal under antitrust laws as forcing companies to pay workers more than what a free market dictates inevitably increases prices.
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dominotw超过 5 年前
ppl also talk a lot about union for tech workers. Its not feasible in tech because a sizable majority of tech workers are on various visa&#x27;s that precludes them from joining a strike, making the union essentially ineffective. This needs to be addressed first.<p>Chicago has teachers union but filipino teachers on J1 cannot participate in a strike, it works for CTU because there are only a tiny fraction on J1 visa.
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remote_phone超过 5 年前
I’m glad they were able to unionize but why should they deserve to have similar or same benefits as Google workers? Sorry to be blunt but they are cafeteria workers working for Bon Appetit. If I were Google I would just close all the cafeterias in order to avoid further precedent setting actions. The meals are going to get taxed by IRS anyway so might as well bite the bullet now and get rid of free food entirely.
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motohagiography超过 5 年前
The consequence of this means rights for union organizers to be on the job sites and access to other workers. There is a thin edge of the wedge strategy at play here. It&#x27;s not just the cafeteria workers.<p>The opposition I have to unions at companies like Google is that the companies themselves are too politically powerful to have staff who in effect must to behave criminally to be terminated. When you look at the impact of unions in law enforcement and national security, they are almost universally recognized as the main enabler for the social problems bad individuals in these fields cause.<p>The amount of social harm a malicious Google (twitter, facebook, reddit, pornhub, etc) employee can cause is astronomical and the main thing keeping the worst %10 in check is the likelihood of losing their job. Literally thousands of people who can divert or sabotage the lives of others without accountability.<p>They already have enough privacy and political problems, but I would predict unionization spreading to their tech workforce would trigger divestment and a general market reduction of risk exposure to their businesses.<p>These companies are different, and a political artifact of the industrial revolution will have disproportionate unintended consequences.
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