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The Cornell Note-Taking System

198 点作者 ____Sash---701_超过 5 年前

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dhimes超过 5 年前
The conversation here from about a month ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21674946" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21674946</a>
llamaz超过 5 年前
I have tried this, and tt&#x27;s a good pedagogical method for learning-how-to-learn, but it&#x27;s inconvenient in practice<p>I think it&#x27;s worth learning how to use Anki instead. The key challenge there is selecting the right level of coarseness, so that it doesn&#x27;t take forever. Even if you don&#x27;t end up reviewing your cards, the act of synthesising information helps you learn it. Down the line you&#x27;re able to encode important information in finer detail.<p>Contrary to what you might think, this method is especially useful for really difficult concepts (e.g. in math and physics). Sometimes you sit through a lecture and have no idea what&#x27;s going on until you start doing the exercises. In these cases you might have to use memory as a crutch, to try to memorize the main ideas (or useful facts) to create the scaffold which you fill in later.
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neodymiumphish超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been in law enforcement for about 5 years now, the first 3 of which were spent entirely on felony-level criminal investigations. They teach a great deal at the federal courses on how to conduct interviews of Suspects, Victims, and Witnesses, but almost nothing is detailed on how to take notes. When I conducted these interviews (especially ones that aren&#x27;t recorded or when I&#x27;m unlikely to have a chance to re-interview someone, such as with Suspects and Victims), I found that I really needed a methodology of note-taking that allowed me to set aside questions to ask when the time was right. For example, if a sexual assault victim is describing the events that led up to the assault, and mentioned that the suspect sent a message from his phone just before doing something else, I would want to know (to the best of her knowledge) what type of phone it was, but I&#x27;m not going to stop her in the middle of telling me the story just to ask that question.<p>Interestingly, I basically started doing something extremely similar to this system (although, apparently backwards). My notes always included a line separating my main notes on the left from my key details and questions on the right, with the right column only about 3&quot; wide. Ordinarily, I would leave 2 or 3 blank lines after each question so I could fill in the answer the interviewee provided and it reminded me to look for any blank space on my notepad before ending an interview (or, in the case of suspects, before asking more direct questions that may lead to suspect to end the interview before I got the chance to get answers to more minor questions). Ofter, my &quot;summary&quot; section would be extremely short and just describe larger timeline changes, like if a report spans multiple days or locations, I would mark the end of one incident in the bottom few lines of the page and jump to a new page to take notes about the next incident.<p>I&#x27;m very curious if this methodology is used by a lot of others as well (especially in law enforcement), or if I just happened to find one with remarkable similarity to Cornell&#x27;s.
nradov超过 5 年前
I question the value of taking notes at all. Of course different people learn in different ways, and I&#x27;m sure some students can benefit from taking notes. But for me the process of note taking is too distracting. Better to just focus on the lecturer and really <i>listen</i>. Then maybe write a few short notes afterwards for points not adequately covered in the assigned text.
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KomradeKeeks超过 5 年前
&#x27;15 here<p>I remember having these notes ingrained into my brain in middle school; at Ithaca, I didn&#x27;t know a single person who actively used Cornell notes for note taking. That said, actively engaging and re-engaging with content will help you build better internal bodies of knowledge on the subject, so you&#x27;ll retain the content long after prelims and finals.
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0kl超过 5 年前
If anyone else is interested in research on note taking, this is a survey of the research with citations: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cultofpedagogy.com&#x2F;note-taking" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cultofpedagogy.com&#x2F;note-taking</a><p>Unfortunately it doesn’t look like there’s been as much research on specific methodologies (e.g. Cornell method), but it may also be the case that the methodology doesn’t matter at all, only that the strategies are employed.<p>I’m surprised it doesn’t mention the encoding and external storage paradigm, but <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cc-seas.columbia.edu&#x2F;node&#x2F;31875" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cc-seas.columbia.edu&#x2F;node&#x2F;31875</a> has some additional context for anyone that wants some vocabulary and a very short “methods” and “strategies” document.
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DailyHN超过 5 年前
GTD turned me on to notecards. I can&#x27;t imagine going back. No matter how you want to organize the important stuff, the ephemeral nature of 3x5 notecards helps me get more ideas out of my head than ever before.<p>&quot;Your brain is for having ideas, not remembering them.&quot;
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sakras超过 5 年前
They made us on several different occasions take Cornell notes saying they&#x27;d help us learn. Supposedly there were numerous studies saying that students that used them succeeded. I HATED taking these notes - it just makes more sense to me to format things as a textbook-writer would. I think of my notebooks as mini-textbooks.<p>On a more general note, I&#x27;ve noticed throughout my undergrad experience that whenever some lecturer&#x2F;Professor&#x2F;TA comes up and says they read a study about &quot;evidence-based learning&quot; and that this method will help us learn 10x better, they&#x27;re full of shit. I want nothing more than to take notes however I want, to a lecture.
vsyu超过 5 年前
It can be helpful to have a structured system of note-taking that you can modify so that it&#x27;s customized to your needs and becomes most effective for how you learn.
Dirlewanger超过 5 年前
I imagine this would be OK for a structured maths class, but not for a weekly 3 hour history seminar where the professor pontificates non-stop for the entire time...
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tra3超过 5 年前
Any tips for taking meeting notes specifically?
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orbitmech超过 5 年前
Yes