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Using Machine Learning to “Nowcast” Precipitation in High Resolution

72 点作者 luthfur超过 5 年前

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franch超过 5 年前
I chime in on this because I&#x27;m working on deep learning for precipitation nowcasting using radar for my Ph.D. I was very excited when google released the press statement at NeurIPS about their work in this area. Unfortunately, after reading the paper, I have to say that their approach is fairly basic. Basically they threshold the precipitation in 4 thresholds (no rain, light, medium, heavy) and then use a U-Net like architecture, treating it as a classification problem. I think that the works of Shi et al are much more interesting in this regard:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;papers.nips.cc&#x2F;paper&#x2F;5955-convolutional-lstm-network-a-machine-learning-approach-for-precipitation-nowcasting.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;papers.nips.cc&#x2F;paper&#x2F;5955-convolutional-lstm-network...</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;papers.nips.cc&#x2F;paper&#x2F;7145-deep-learning-for-precipitation-nowcasting-a-benchmark-and-a-new-model.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;papers.nips.cc&#x2F;paper&#x2F;7145-deep-learning-for-precipita...</a><p>What I think is that Google wanted to use a lighter model that can be applied to the whole continental US. I expect them to integrate this in google assistant, like: &quot;hey google, tell me when it&#x27;s going to rain&quot;
labster超过 5 年前
I don&#x27;t get why the put nowcast in quotes. Nowcasting is pretty common term in meteorology.<p>It&#x27;s also cool that they could get this far without physics. Of course, &quot;HRRR model begins to outperform our current results when the prediction horizon reaches roughly 5 to 6 hours&quot;. Simple associations that could be discovered by neural networks work in the short term, but the atmospheric physics is needed to understand the long term evolution of storms.
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londons_explore超过 5 年前
In the UK, netweather.tv shows weather radar with a 5 minute temporal resolution, 50 meter spacal resolution, and a 10 minute latency (less if you pay I think).<p>I regularly use it &#x27;by eye&#x27; to predict when a big band of rain is coming. I can very effectively figure out if there will be more or less rain 5 minutes from now. &quot;Shall I walk to the car now, or should I wait 5 mins?&quot;.<p>In comparison, the results of this work seem disappointing.
luthfur超过 5 年前
A physics-free approach to precipitation nowcasting using a CNN.
denimboy超过 5 年前
Sounds a lot like darksky.net they have an interesting story starting from kickstarter to getting acquired by longnow.
signa11超过 5 年前
dup: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22051889" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22051889</a>
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m3kw9超过 5 年前
Now cast, let me look outside