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What is going on at Opera Software?

78 点作者 ga-vu超过 5 年前

19 条评论

NelsonMinar超过 5 年前
Love all the comments here from folks who haven&#x27;t read the article and are going on about the browser. This article is about Opera&#x27;s alleged fraudulent loans business. Well really this article doesn&#x27;t have much of its own to say, it&#x27;s mostly a rewrite &#x2F; summary of this article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hindenburgresearch.com&#x2F;opera-phantom-of-the-turnaround&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hindenburgresearch.com&#x2F;opera-phantom-of-the-turnarou...</a>
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Nextgrid超过 5 年前
Opera ended the day they deprecated their own rendering engine and became yet another Chromium wrapper, which we already have more than enough of.
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xwowsersx超过 5 年前
How did Opera get involved in the short term lending business? How does corporate governance for a public company allow this to happen?
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killjoywashere超过 5 年前
What this really sounds like is Hindenburg Research daring Google to not notice.<p>Also, please switch the link to the original research, or go upvote the original (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22092095" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22092095</a>)
Gustomaximus超过 5 年前
Makes me sad. Opera was well positioned ~10 years ago to grow and innovate. And such an incredibly passionate and involved community.<p>IMO here&#x27;s the beginning of the end for Opera when Jon resigned, the investors took the reins and his open letter;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;06&#x2F;24&#x2F;opera-founder-jon-s-von-tetzchner-resigns-over-differences-with-board&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;06&#x2F;24&#x2F;opera-founder-jon-s-von-te...</a><p>Good luck to the Vivaldi team in getting a bit of &#x27;old Opera&#x27; back.
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RandomGuyDTB超过 5 年前
Not entirely relevant but; RIP Opera. It was a competent browser even after it became Chromium based, now few people trust it and even fewer people use it. Hope some of the features I remember seeing back when I used it, especially the ones in Opera GX, make it to other browsers.
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mratsim超过 5 年前
Wow, I did use Opera for years and also on mobile when in Africa with limited data plans.<p>Time flies, I still remember Opera 10 years ago, they probably had the best tech April Fool&#x27;s I ever stumbled upon with their &quot;Face gestures&quot;[1].<p>When you had a team that could create that behind your product, you knew that the team cared and was driven by passion and excellent craftmanship.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dev.opera.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;introducing-opera-face-gestures&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dev.opera.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;introducing-opera-face-gestures&#x2F;</a>
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dep_b超过 5 年前
Can’t read it on iOS safari, keeps reloading.
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sempron64超过 5 年前
Opera Mini is simply the best experience for compressed mobile web browsing on low-speed connections. I use it when traveling and when my data plan runs out for reading the news and web sites (I don&#x27;t log into anything because I don&#x27;t trust the provider, and they have to MITM HTTPS). I&#x27;ll be sad if this goes away.<p>I wish there was a self-hosted solution for compressed mobile browsing that I could put on a server. It&#x27;ll be hard to replace the aggressive optimizations they have done to make this possible, though it&#x27;s likely I can get most of the way by inlining everything and replacing script and image tags...
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olliej超过 5 年前
Sad for the company to pivot to abusive loan schemes.<p>I mean I’m sure it didn’t help when they switched to being yet another chromium wrapper - why pay for essentially the same browser you can get for free? That can’t have helped their revenue
jackinloadup超过 5 年前
I wish Opera would open source their presto engine. I&#x27;m guessing that isn&#x27;t possible due to some licensing issues. Personally I find it unfortunate that all that amazing work will be lost. While I didn&#x27;t use Opera due to it&#x27;s proprietary nature, as a browser engine it was competitive for its time.<p>I&#x27;m having the same feeling now about the EdgeHTML engine which is now being fazed out. This engine was a breath of fresh air compared to trident. It was bringing value to the internet space.<p>Granted, I do realize there are perfectly valid business reasons Opera and Edge switched to chromium.
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unixhero超过 5 年前
Anybody remember Operas beta feature &quot;Opera Fridge&quot;?<p>Source: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;images.ientrymail.com&#x2F;webpronews&#x2F;article_pics&#x2F;fridge.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;images.ientrymail.com&#x2F;webpronews&#x2F;article_pics&#x2F;fridge....</a>
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modzu超过 5 年前
ya know what. when opera presto had feature parity with chrome, developers still walled their websites with useragent checks so for your average joe nothing worked and it created a negative feedback loop of users blaming the browser and devs avoiding supporting it. what else could they do? with chromium engine opera suddenly worked (lol).. there was still a lot of value on top of that, like a native speed dial that wasnt harvesting your data, fantastic bookmark management, a free vpn (yeah not for the ultraparanoid but still useful), tons of customization options, etc. its sad opera was sold and its days are probably numbered
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redis_mlc超过 5 年前
FYI: the SEC is investigating how mainland Chinese companies ever got listed on US exchanges as their accounting methods are not compatible with US requirements.<p>Figure 12 - 18 months before they&#x27;re mostly delisted.
ksec超过 5 年前
I wished they Open Source the &quot;Old&quot; Opera Engine.<p>It was small and Fast. If I remember correctly it had the browser engine, Javascript, Email client, RSS etc all in the sub 15MB download.
z3t4超过 5 年前
Opera browser is still big on Mobile
hansjorg超过 5 年前
&gt; Hindenburg Research<p>Great name and interesting business.
chrismeller超过 5 年前
Well that’s all unsubstantiated hearsay at this point, but I think we can all agree that Opera has, sadly, seen its day as a browser.
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samantohermes超过 5 年前
R.I.P. Opera. Long live Pale Moon, Brave, Vivaldi and WebkitGTK. Chrome, Firefox and Edge could go f--k themselves.