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American Kids Aren't Getting Dumber; They Were Just Never That Smart

72 点作者 wybo超过 14 年前

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rriepe超过 14 年前
<i>"It's a myth that we've fallen from our glory days."</i><p>This one seems to pop up a lot. Not just in education, but in everything. Is it just a sort of cultural nostalgia, a collective-but-selective memory? I'd be interested in seeing studies on it.
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anon098超过 14 年前
For those still unware, here is the politically incorrect truth about PISA and America's subpar performance on it: <a href="http://buchanan.org/blog/who-owns-the-future-4587" rel="nofollow">http://buchanan.org/blog/who-owns-the-future-4587</a><p>"True, East Asians - Chinese, Koreans, Japanese - are turning in the top scores in all three categories, followed by the Europeans, Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders.<p>"But, looking down the New York Times list of the top 30 nations, one finds not a single Latin American nation, not a single African nation, not a single Muslim nation, not a single South or Southeast Asian nation (save Singapore) [which is Han Chinese], not a single nation of the old Soviet Union except Latvia and Estonia."<p>...<p>"Steve Sailer of VDARE.com got the full list of 65 nations, broke down U.S. reading scores by race, then measured Americans with the countries and continents whence their families originated. What he found was surprising.<p>"Asian-Americans outperform all Asian students except for Shanghai-Chinese. White Americans outperform students from all 37 predominantly white nations except Finns, and U.S. Hispanics outperformed the students of all eight Latin American countries that participated in the tests.<p>"African-American kids would have outscored the students of any sub-Saharan African country that took the test (none did) and did outperform the only black country to participate, Trinidad and Tobago, by 25 points."<p>Here is the chart: <a href="http://www.vdare.com/sailer/101219_pisa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vdare.com/sailer/101219_pisa.htm</a>
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solipsist超过 14 年前
"<i>We should stop talking about some golden age of schooling that never existed, and instead look for ways to create one.</i>"<p>As I posted on another thread, everyone should watch this video if they have the time: <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/conrad_wolfram_teaching_kids_real_math_with_computers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/conrad_wolfram_teaching_kids_real_m...</a>
nhangen超过 14 年前
I could care less about test scores and baseline performance in measured tests. What I care about is drive, inspiration, motivation, and innovation.<p>Sure, the US doesn't have a monopoly on any of that, but I'm not ashamed of what our best and brightest are doing.
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mkramlich超过 14 年前
i've often thought that many Americans were not necessarily more talented or innately intelligent than folks in worse off areas of the world. they were just lucky to be born in a nation and time when they had a silver spoon in their mouth, in relative terms. With increasing globalization of the economy, that is coming to end, which sucks, but probably inevitable.