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Rat had 'no brain' and somehow lived a normal life

143 点作者 respinal超过 5 年前

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blight超过 5 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rifters.com&#x2F;crawl&#x2F;?p=6116" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rifters.com&#x2F;crawl&#x2F;?p=6116</a><p>same case but in humans, he had a &quot;normal&quot; life.
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anonytrary超过 5 年前
&gt; It was only after they traced chemicals in the brain that they were able to verify that, indeed, the hippocampus was that squished, displaced object pushed toward the back of the brain.<p>Main takeaway (misleading title) is that this rat had a brain, but a region of fluid developed and pushed the brain towards the edges of the cranial cavity. The rat was still able to do most of the other basic tasks as the other rats, but may have suffered from anxiety.<p>And that&#x27;s the extent of this article. I don&#x27;t think we know how higher order functions were affected. I would guess that these (like what humans have) are not necessary to sustain life. A species can exist indefinitely as long as they can feed and reproduce faster than they die. These things are easy to do without higher order functions if food and reproductive mates are readily available.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if a lab rat without 99% of their brain didn&#x27;t change much or could still complete basic tasks. I would be surprised if a human without 99% of their brain could function normally in society today, which requires relatively heavy higher order brain function.
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greendude29超过 5 年前
The title is very click-baity. It&#x27;s another demonstration of the plasticity of the brain, which the author has called &#x27;no brain&#x27;
mkl超过 5 年前
Things like this have happened in people too. E.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newscientist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;dn12301-man-with-tiny-brain-shocks-doctors&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newscientist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;dn12301-man-with-tiny-b...</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.irishtimes.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;remarkable-story-of-maths-genius-who-had-almost-no-brain-1.1026845" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.irishtimes.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;remarkable-story-of-maths-ge...</a><p>Gwern has a good summary, including criticisms: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Hydrocephalus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwern.net&#x2F;Hydrocephalus</a>
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jaclaz超过 5 年前
Similar (but different), Mike, the headless chicken:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mike_the_Headless_Chicken" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mike_the_Headless_Chicken</a>
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firethief超过 5 年前
From this article it&#x27;s not clear if the rat has many fewer neurons than normal, or small neurons compressed together. Given its high level of function, I&#x27;d be more surprised by the former.
nabla9超过 5 年前
Humans with the same condition and most of their brain &#x27;gone&#x27; can also live normal life: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thelancet.com&#x2F;journals&#x2F;lancet&#x2F;article&#x2F;PIIS0140-6736(07)61127-1&#x2F;fulltext" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thelancet.com&#x2F;journals&#x2F;lancet&#x2F;article&#x2F;PIIS0140-6...</a>
_Microft超过 5 年前
Here is a case of a woman missing her cerebellum who also showed less effects than expected: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newscientist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;mg22329861-900-woman-of-24-found-to-have-no-cerebellum-in-her-brain&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newscientist.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;mg22329861-900-woman-of...</a>
Ardren超过 5 年前
Paper here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-019-53042-3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-019-53042-3</a>
fctorial超过 5 年前
For a rat, the spinal cord could be just as big, or bigger than the brain in mass. It&#x27;s possible that the spinal cord does majority of processing for rats, like cockroaches.
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sneak超过 5 年前
See also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Phineas_Gage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Phineas_Gage</a>
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kalium_xyz超过 5 年前
More and more do I get convinced one of the primary functions of the brain is filling up space in the skull.
m3kw9超过 5 年前
It says it may have “heightened anxiety”. It probably knows his own brain was limited in some sort of abilities, so it subconsciously limited risk taking
dang超过 5 年前
Url changed from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.technologynetworks.com&#x2F;neuroscience&#x2F;news&#x2F;this-rat-had-no-brain-and-it-somehow-lived-a-normal-life-329774" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.technologynetworks.com&#x2F;neuroscience&#x2F;news&#x2F;this-ra...</a>, which points to this.
zaphirplane超过 5 年前
I read that as redHat and re-read the heading a couple of times thinking what ! New NY resolution spend less time reading about tech
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konstmonst超过 5 年前
Am I the only one who red &quot;Red Hat had &#x27;No Brain&#x27; and Somehow Lived a Normal Life&quot;?
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hkt超过 5 年前
See also, most layers of middle management.
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