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Airbus ran ‘massive’ bribery scheme to win orders

369 点作者 avocado4超过 5 年前

23 条评论

fnord77超过 5 年前
&gt; Airbus for years conducted a “massive scheme to offer and pay bribes”, involving very senior executives, according to disclosures in courts in Washington DC, Paris and London, as Europe’s aerospace champion agreed to pay €3.6bn in penalties to regulators in France, the UK and the US.<p>So nobody went to jail, though
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wrnu超过 5 年前
Wouldn&#x27;t be the first time. In Canada our former PM was accused of accepting &#x27;kickbacks&#x27; in 1995.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Airbus_affair" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Airbus_affair</a>
neonate超过 5 年前
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.md&#x2F;MIVp8" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.md&#x2F;MIVp8</a>
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hogFeast超过 5 年前
Thank god.<p>A particularly nasty aspect of this story, alluded to at the bottom but not made explicit, is that Airbus was taking massive export credits (in the UK, they got the lion&#x27;s share of the budget).<p>It was only in the UK that Airbus was required to actually required to produce documentation about the customer, and the scheme was only uncovered when someone at UKEF realised that Airbus wasn&#x27;t doing this and the govt had been giving out hundreds of millions to corrupt politicians.<p>Also, the timeline here is incredible. As soon as the UK announced their investigation, and Airbus was banned from receiving credits...they were in negotiations to resume funding, and (somehow) Enders only lost his job 3 years later (and even the UK has turned back on the money spigot...although this time with sheepish promises about trying to fund a company other than Airbus through UKEF).<p>Airbus is everything that is wrong with the corporate world. Run by politicians, hopelessly corrupt, always spinning, and receiving massive subsidies by dint of their impact on local job markets.
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yalogin超过 5 年前
Every company doles out bribes. In many countries bribery is the way to go. Things don’t happen without it. They just find creative ways to make it legal that’s all.
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jdkee超过 5 年前
Bribery or MCAS? Your choice.
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drno123超过 5 年前
As a business flyer - at this moment I am willing to pay 10-15% more for my tickets provided I fly only airbus equipment.
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nixass超过 5 年前
Bribery? Don&#x27;t Americans call it lobbying?
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LaserToy超过 5 年前
Anyone here actually believes it is only Airbus???
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jariel超过 5 年前
In Canada SNC Lavalin same things.<p>This is not an easy thing though: the countries in which bribes are paid are run by corrupt people who expect kickbacks as part of doing business, and there&#x27;s no other way about it.<p>If the West wants to play morally superior on this - then 100% of Airbus, Boeing, SNC, Halliburton and massive industrials will full-on go out of business.<p>This issue is not part of the current round of negotiations with China and it&#x27;s too bad, because without a level playing field - many industries will be wiped out and other countries will be happy to pick up the slack.<p>This stuff is quite common, we need a comprehensive solution.<p>One indirect approach might be to invest and push for open journalism in places like Malaysia, so as to force their own hand on corruption though that may be asking too much.
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manicdee超过 5 年前
Every year we learn more about how suit-wearers do business: nepotism, bribery, kickbacks, back scratching, quid pro quo … but we continue to believe the myth of the “self made man,” who raised themselves to success by hard work and thorough understanding of their technical field.
philprx超过 5 年前
Oh, very surprising, this news comes at the exact right timing for Boeing during the 737 max debacle ;-)
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Havoc超过 5 年前
As a flyer: Do their planes fall out of the sky due to pervasive dysfunctional corporate culture? Nope.<p>So yeah not great &amp; but relatively speaking I can&#x27;t say I particularly care
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aj7超过 5 年前
Someone put a pdf on Drive, please.
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ksec超过 5 年前
The one thing I am happy to see if how many &quot;realist&quot; has suddenly appeared and not try to deny any wrong doing or non- existent of bribery.<p>And this happen just when Boeing is in trouble.
thefounder超过 5 年前
This is really US taking down strategic competitors. It&#x27;s nothing new. It&#x27;s foreign policy, america first, double standard or whatever you want to name it.
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JohnnyHerz超过 5 年前
I find it irritating that this link is paywalled. the news about this topic is readily available elsewhere.
thrower123超过 5 年前
Yawn. This is how this works.
ggm超过 5 年前
Lockheed. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lockheed_bribery_scandals" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lockheed_bribery_scandals</a>
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dman超过 5 年前
What is the etiquette about posting links that are behind paywalls?
agumonkey超过 5 年前
journaliasts are bored by Boeing topics?
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yawaramin超过 5 年前
Article is paywalled, what was the timeline of the bribes happening? Would it be fair to say:<p>Airbus runs &#x27;massive&#x27; bribery scheme -&gt; Airbus wins more orders -&gt; Boeing feels pressure of losing orders -&gt; Boeing execs pressure engineers to cut corners -&gt; Boeing aircraft develop various major safety issues
trekrich超过 5 年前
so not happy with making loads of cash with boeing loosing business they want to make even more. What happened to just making money, when did they become so greedy they want to make all the money!