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Registrars raise alarm over proposal for big .com fee hikes

139 点作者 Deinos超过 5 年前

13 条评论

kaslai超过 5 年前
Here are some quick numbers:<p>At the end of 2019, Verisign had 158.8 million domains registered. At a price of $7.85&#x2F;year, that&#x27;s about $1.247 billion in expected revenue for 2020.<p>If we assume that the number of domains remains static forever, this change means that after the next price hike of 7%, they will see an additional $87.26 million of annual revenue.<p>By the end of the decade, given the same assumptions above, they will see an additional annual revenue of $895.28 million <i>on top of</i> their existing $1.247 billion.<p>All that extra money without providing any additional value to the customer. I&#x27;m sure many a celebration was had when they got the go-ahead to raise prices like this.
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stevenicr超过 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been moving domains to uniregistry to get away from godaddy&#x27;s constant price increases.<p>In the middle of transferring another 60 domains over I get a notice that goaddady is taking over uniregistry.<p>then later that day I see these stories about icann raising the prices even more.<p>maybe the article about this handshake un-censor-able domains thing will provide some good news for this space. ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22310604" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22310604</a><p>What is the most uncensored registrar for .coms now? I refuse to let the names I&#x27;ve been working on be taken over by godaddy.
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lkesteloot超过 5 年前
I feel like .com should be much more expensive than it is. Too many people squatting. I have friends who have dozens of .com, and not even &quot;just in case&quot;, they&#x27;re just collecting them because they like the sound of them. Then when you have a real idea all the good ones are taken, most unused.<p>The .com TLD is supposed to be for commercial use, so for a real company it shouldn&#x27;t be a big deal to pay $50 or $100 per year or more, and it would free up good domains to be actually used.
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lostapathy超过 5 年前
I absolutely do not think ICANN, or the registries, &quot;need&quot; any more money, and I don&#x27;t want them to have it.<p>At the same time, one could make a very strong case that .com domains should cost more to help combat squatting and speculation. They are a limited resource and too many people (me included) sit on domains &quot;just in case I want to develop the idea&quot; and that has a lot of other unintended consequences we don&#x27;t want.
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rectang超过 5 年前
&gt; <i>But Verisign itself doesn&#x27;t have competitors; if you want to register a .com address, you have to do business with Verisign.</i><p>Sounds like Verisign is a rent-seeking monopoly.
isoprophlex超过 5 年前
In my mind, the registration process for TLDs shouldn&#x27;t cost more than a couple of cents right? Maybe a dollar at most?<p>This sounds like a purely artificial pricing process to me... But I&#x27;m happy to have my opinion changed on this topic.
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llovan超过 5 年前
ICANN seems to be a corrupt organization.
harikb超过 5 年前
&gt; ... ICANN and Verisign&#x27;s oversight of the .com domain is itself overseen by the US Department of Commerce. Indeed, ICANN argues that it is merely complying with the wishes of the Department of Commerce, which authorized ICANN to raise the price caps by 7 percent annually back in 2018.<p>Finally, it will all turn out to be some $2B profit earned somewhere from having ordered the right Prime Rib dinner at Mar-a-lago. Unless HN enmass makes the visit there, this will go over just like the .org change
twhb超过 5 年前
These comments are either irrational or full of domain squatters and registrars.<p>This price increase costs a person who own a single domain $3.22 per year. That&#x27;s conservatively adjusted for inflation, in 2020 dollars, and after 10 years not while it&#x27;s still increasing. At minimum wage, this price increase is costing you an extra 3.4 to 6.1 <i>seconds</i> per work day, depending on the state.<p>In other words, if you own a single domain, this increase does not affect you.<p>It does affect you, though, if you own thousands of domains that you aren&#x27;t using. The word for that is &quot;domain squatter&quot;.<p>It also affects you if you&#x27;re a registrar and you&#x27;re aware that most domains are held by squatters, therefore that most of your revenue comes from squatters.<p>This price increase doesn&#x27;t affect me or other legitimate domain holders, has already made my trigger-happy friends tell me they&#x27;re going to review their domains and let go of the ones they probably won&#x27;t use, and may even make some types of domain squatting unprofitable. This price increase is good for the internet.
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pbhjpbhj超过 5 年前
Do they need the money?<p>It&#x27;s always struck me it should be even cheaper than it is.<p>Perhaps cc.tld registries should be able to register any non-cc domain. Then registrars could shop for the best service.
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keenmaster超过 5 年前
Proposal: Why don&#x27;t we make domain names more like names on the App Store? Here&#x27;s how it would work.<p>If you go to x.com, you&#x27;ll visit the actual x.com, which literally just shows an x. However, you&#x27;ll see a suggestion for the top companies that are &quot;secondarily registered&quot; (for free) to that domain, in order of popularity and some other metrics. You can make one of those secondary x.com&#x27;s the default, so that when you visit x.com, you visit their alternative website instead.<p>There are some issues to sort out with that system, such as whether secondary registration (or at least the auto-suggest) should be allowed for the likes of Facebook and other established, popular, trademarked brands. Another question would be that, if x.com is parked by a squatter, should the more visited x.com&#x27;s be able to bid for your domain?<p>Here&#x27;s how bidding would work. Only established companies with a name that corresponds to the domain name would be able to bid. Bidding would only be open for a pre-specified time frame. The domain name owner would be free to notify everyone with an established company that goes by that name to get in on the bidding action. Users would be able to flag websites operated by dead&#x2F;zombie companies, and an independent committee would convene (digitally) to vote on whether bidding should be re-opened.<p>Naming is actually an issue with startups. We should reduce friction as much as possible for entrepreneurs because it&#x27;s already hard to start a company as it is. It would be great if you can just pick the best name that isn&#x27;t taken by a major brand and move on to more important matters. Down the line, you can give customers a small reward for defaulting your version of the domain.
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3fe9a03ccd14ca5超过 5 年前
I don’t get domains. There seems to be plenty of competition between them, especially with the introduction of gtlds. So why isn’t there downward price pressure on domains? Why do I pay someone <i>at least</i> $10 a year for a tiny few bytes of data?<p>How can we break this? Should we do a crowdfunded gtld for a not-for-profit permanent gtld?
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guru4consulting超过 5 年前
Instead of relying on a single authority for a tld, why not make the ownership distributed and let multiple organizations compete among themselves? May be they could share data over blockchain or a similar database. This is still centralized control but at least distributed to few organizations instead of just one monopoly. Or even better, same policy of distributed control could be applied to ICANN. I don&#x27;t understand the intricacies of their work, but I hope they get some serious competition.