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Twitter Thread: Experience at Lambda School for UX

145 点作者 mobileexpert大约 5 年前

11 条评论

austenallred大约 5 年前
This story probably represents the single greatest failure of Lambda School ever. There are times when the whole story isn’t being told, but this isn’t one of them, Nicole is right. I’ve spent a lot of time talking with Nicole and her cohort, have cancelled her ISA, and we are working on a full retrospective for her cohort (UX6).<p>It started with misaligned expectations. We worked with a lot of hiring partners to create a UX curriculum that would be easiest to jump into a first UX career from, and it was clear in doing that research that a <i>research-first</i> perspective with less emphasis on design is what would get students hired faster in a field that can be notoriously difficult to break into (relative to software engineering). We hired experts in that aspect of UX design, which can be terribly broad.<p>Partway through the data started to show that half of the class was pretty happy and about half was not. Usually it’s not split like that - there’s always an outlier student or two but not half totally happy and half frustrated, so we started to dig in.<p>Two things happened:<p>1. We realized half of the students were expecting a design-heavy experience, and we hadn’t communicated well enough what to expect. There were pieces on design, but you wouldn’t come out of this curriculum as a UI designer, and students were expecting that.<p>2. We decided to try and help those students who wanted the UI emphasis, hired more folks, and started creating curriculum in a pretty rushed manner to help them reach their goals. In retrospect that was a huge mistake; there simply wasn’t enough time to build a full design-heavy curriculum in flight, and the students who wanted design-heavy curriculum were very disappointed.<p>That cohort was (rightly) frustrated because we tried to do too much too late. I recognized that was a risk going into those curriculum changes, but took on the risk because the most important thing is making students successful and happy. In retrospect it was the wrong call.<p>I wish like hell that I could go back and make everything perfect for that cohort of students; there are about 20 of them and I’ve spent time one on one with every one. We brought in more people to work with them one on one and that curriculum is much better now, but understandably 5 or 6 students in that cohort had lost their faith in our ability to deliver and opted to leave the program. Of course, we cancelled their ISAs; we lost a ton of money training these students and they don’t owe us anything, but that’s the right thing to do. We promise an awesome experience and in this instance didn’t deliver. We tried to do too much in too short a timeframe and missed the mark.
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pembrook大约 5 年前
To be honest, part of the problem is the field of UX design itself. Unlike “coding” (which is standardized and easier to quantify, ie. Does the program update the database or not?) user experience is a vague, lumpy, subjective mess of buzzwords with no linear pathway to proficiency.<p>We all know UX is extremely important to the success of any startup, but quantifying it is a different story. Designers can’t even agree on their own responsibilities and what to call <i>themselves,</i> with job titles and responsibilities I’ve seen at many companies having 0 correlation to the next.<p>Any great UX&#x2F;product&#x2F;service&#x2F;interaction&#x2F;blah blah designer I’ve worked with is a former graphic designer with great taste, who over the years learned how to build usable software by working on tons of software products and spending tons of time with users.<p>It’s not exactly something that lends itself to the bootcamp model. It makes much more sense in an apprentice model.<p>If it makes her feel any better, I’m certain 90% of schools teaching multi-year “UX” design programs would not have done a better job. At least she doesn’t have to go into debt this way.
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heymijo大约 5 年前
I can&#x27;t read this account and say anything other than Lambda School is an ineffective educational program.<p>You can set aside the issue of ISAs or anything about this woman.<p>This poor of a product from Lambda is indefensible. A consumer or enterprise software startup can get away beginning with an ineffective MVP and iterating. A school offering an educational opportunity has a much higher floor to responsibly operate. This person shows that Lambda is operating well below that floor.<p>Even if the students will never activate the repayment clauses of their ISAs Lambda has failed them. Silicon Valley seems to think that what it can&#x27;t measure doesn&#x27;t matter. But Lambda School, by pitching itself as a way for anyone to be a part of the tech boom gets up a person&#x27;s hopes and then completely and utterly fails to deliver on its promise. That is on top of the opportunity cost of attending a school that fails to deliver anything close to the education advertised.
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wpietri大约 5 年前
I really had a lot of hope for bootcamps in general and ISAs in specific. I thought the alignment of incentives might make for radically more effective education.<p>I was very wrong. The ISA incentive appears to be nothing to the VC&#x2F;startup incentive to Show! Massive! Growth! as you chase ever-larger chunks of money. Somehow we&#x27;ve gone from &quot;move fast and break things&quot; (which is not a terrible slogan to encourage experimentation on non-consequential things) to &quot;move fast and break people&quot; (which horrifies me).
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jfarmer大约 5 年前
What&#x27;s craziest to me is that someone thought you could put together two groups of students in a high stakes situation without first socializing the interaction.<p>Half the point of school is to get students to first fail in a low-stakes way.<p>Groups need time to develop. Any change in a group will cause it to storm before re-norming.<p>The higher the stakes the more critical it is to navigate storming effectively. You &quot;learn by doing&quot;, i.e., by getting students to storm 50 times before the the stakes are high.<p>Students should not have to pay the price for someone else&#x27;s crash course in learning design.
waterside81大约 5 年前
For anyone else wondering ... an ISA is an Income Share Agreement. Lots of comments here mentioning this but I didn’t know what it stood for
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tchaffee大约 5 年前
Can someone confirm or correct my suspicion? That the founders are interested in education finance reform and not so much education? Are any of them former teachers? What&#x27;s their background in pedagogy? It&#x27;s cool to hack code, systems, and to hack together a software product. This feels like they are hacking people&#x27;s lives and futures and if you&#x27;re going to do that, maybe some credentials are called for. Happy to be corrected if the founders have a long history of involvement in education.
djeikyb大约 5 年前
Kim Crayton has done great analysis of this type of code school on her podcast, including interviews with students:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hashtagcauseascene.com&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;?s=bootcamp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hashtagcauseascene.com&#x2F;podcast&#x2F;?s=bootcamp</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckduckgo.com&#x2F;?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fhashtagcauseascene.com+bootcamp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckduckgo.com&#x2F;?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fhashtagcausea...</a>
Antoninus大约 5 年前
Obligatory: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lzsthw&#x2F;status&#x2F;1212284566431576069?lang=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;lzsthw&#x2F;status&#x2F;1212284566431576069?lang=e...</a><p>and Lambda School fits into many of the described.
jsjddbbwj大约 5 年前
She opens the thread by stating that she is a black woman from the Bronx. Then there&#x27;s nothing in the thread that says she&#x27;s been treated differently for being black, for being a woman, or for being from the Bronx.
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minimaxir大约 5 年前
This thread touches on the point the other discussions about ISAs don’t: these aren’t <i>free</i> bootcamps because there’s opportunity cost, and that can be unexpectedly expensive.
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