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Show HN: Engelbart's Chorded Keyboard - Built at SHDH42 yesterday

43 点作者 ptarjan超过 14 年前

13 条评论

biot超过 14 年前
Interesting idea, but it's rather odd that the keystroke for P is pressing <SPACE>, but the keystroke for <SPACE> is a four character combination when <SPACE> should be its own chord. While the binary incrementing keystroke combination is somewhat logical, I would imagine that a more frequency-based assignment would ultimately be more successful as muscle memory is far more important than remembering that the chord for V is binary+1 of the chord for U.
kadavy超过 14 年前
This was really interesting to play with.<p>I kept getting caught up cognitively on the fact that the thumb corresponded to the 5th box in all of the chord diagrams. I feel like some visual differentiation would have made that easier to grok.
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gnosis超过 14 年前
Cute. But I'd need a lot more than this for programming, which uses many special symbols. Even regular English requires being able to type quotes, question marks, exclamation points, numbers, etc..<p>Also, as far as the implementation of this particular typing tutor goes, it needs to let the user retry to type a given chords until he gets it right, instead of immediately moving on to the next one.<p>And the chords should be taught in small batches, rather than trying to teach them all at once.<p>While we're on the subject of chording, I should mention that there's a vim plugin that will let you map chorded keystrokes:<p><a href="http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2425" rel="nofollow">http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2425</a>
reeses超过 14 年前
I remember reading about Steve Roberts building chording keyboards into his "handlebars" on his Winnebiko years ago. Since he had well more than 2^5 bits using both hands[1], he was able to assign macros that helped significantly with his effective typing speed.<p>Englebart says that his layout is not intended for speed typing, with the typical trained typer being able to type 30-50wpm. He observed that typing speed on conventional keyboards does not have a strong correlation with typing speed on his chording layout. Sight-reading piano players have a bit of an advantage here, of course.<p>I've always wanted one of the Twiddlers, and am kind of excited they're back on the market, but I'd vastly prefer a wireless version. I've also been looking forward to the release of the FrogPad. It would be nice to have a better-than-touchscreen keyboard for emails on the iPad or iPhone.<p>[1] I can't remember the exact layout now. If it used all ten fingers, or if it had multiple positions for, say, thumbs, à la the BAT keyboard, it's gone from my memory. Regardless, it used both hands.
ptarjan超过 14 年前
I was inspired by Englebert's "Mother of all Demos" shown at Super Happy Dev House 42 and decided to actually try out the device that was in his left hand.
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js2超过 14 年前
If you're looking for a one-handed chorded keyboard on which to type, the BAT has been around for many years: <a href="http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.asp?RecordNumber=12" rel="nofollow">http://www.infogrip.com/product_view.asp?RecordNumber=12</a>
pkamb超过 14 年前
It's funny how it's not optimized at all. "E" and "T" are both incredibly hard to type; this would give you RSI problems in no time.
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wazoox超过 14 年前
I'm a pianist; it was easy as cake, actually would be even easier with finger numbers, or represented as notes :)
makmanalp超过 14 年前
I can't type G for the life of me. Maybe it has to do with the number of simultaneous keypresses on my keyboard?
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pz超过 14 年前
is there a standard mapping for chorded keyboards? i feel like X has a much easier combo than E. would be interesting to use data on people's error rate for different key combos and then remap frequently used letters to easier combos.
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mbreese超过 14 年前
I found it very hard to do this with my left hand. Especially since the first bit is so widely used and my pinky on that side is pretty weak.<p>I guess you can tell that I'm not an emacs user :)
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dmcg超过 14 年前
I spent a happy year with a MicroWriter chorded keyboard in the early 90s. My right hand still knows the letters, so there must be something in it.
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Yzupnick超过 14 年前
Why is it lefty?
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