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What are the safest sources of energy?

29 点作者 simon_acca大约 5 年前

6 条评论

belorn大约 5 年前
I would like that people would look at this kind of numbers and agree on the simple fact that burning fuels that release air pollution is bad and we should have a steady plan on how to phase it out and ban the practice. Regardless if people favor nuclear or renewable, we should all agree that coal, oil and gas do not belong in the energy grid.<p>Existing power plants that use fossil fuels should be phased out and new ones should not be legal to build. Pipelines for gas should not be built. If you don&#x27;t want nuclear, build the battery and the renewable to fill it. If you don&#x27;t want to build the battery, build nuclear. If you don&#x27;t want the risk of nuclear disasters, accept the variability of renewable. Don&#x27;t want to accept the variability of renewable, build nuclear.<p>The contention between renewable and nuclear can be good, but only in finding which one is safest and cheapest in a post fossil fuel energy grid. As long fossil fuels continue to be allowed the contention mostly serve to split the movement and pit the nuclear and renewable people against each other rather than against our main problem of greenhouse gas emissions and air pollution.
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natmaka大约 5 年前
The conclusion are heavily tainted by hypothesis about the amount of victims. Chernobyl upper estimate is 965,000, see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Chernobyl:_Consequences_of_the_Catastrophe_for_People_and_the_Environment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Chernobyl:_Consequences_of_the...</a><p>Don&#x27;t forget nuke hot waste, left as a gift for future generations. Officially &#x27;managed&#x27;, yet there is no exploited repository.<p>Add combustible dependency (not so much known uranium reserves, no mastered way to obtain it w&#x2F;o mining, in a not-so-distant future some may have to wage war in order to obtain some...), and nuclear proliferation.
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LessDmesg大约 5 年前
What people (including here) tend to whitewash with nuclear is the waste. The radioactive waste that takes centuries or millenia to neutralize. Yes, it&#x27;s kept in concrete bunkers underground and stuff, but no one can guarantee structural integrity of those silos over centuries. An earthquake might hit. A strain of concrete-digesting bacteria might eat through the walls. A war might break out, or simply terrorists. Ultimately, nuclear power contains an inherent and impossible to calculate, but quite real, environmental risk. And it&#x27;s directed not at us, but at future generations who might have to deal with the cancer and toxicity caused by today&#x27;s nuclear power. So no, I&#x27;m sorry, but nuclear <i>fission</i> is not clean.
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hndamien大约 5 年前
This analysis ignores the death potentiality which is the thing that strikes fear in people with nuclear. Even if the given numbers are true, (note that the official deaths from Chernobyl are 31 but the upper estimates are 93,000 - according to HBO), solar has the death potentiality for a few more people to fall off a roof, a battery to explode etc. These would be single digit fatalities if at all fatal.<p>The death potentiality of a Chernobyl&#x2F; Fukishima etc could reach the hundreds of thousands or more. The likelihood of this is probably very low, but non-zero. The likelihood of solar or wind having a catastrophic fatality event (that affected uninvolved civilians) is zero.<p>Given this, if all other things are equal, renewables are the favourable choice.
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ZeroGravitas大约 5 年前
They&#x27;ve updated the stats but the tone stills seems to remain from the old version. It&#x27;s not quite caught up with the reality of modern renewables expanding greatly as their costs decline.
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ConcernedCoder大约 5 年前
Sunlight?