We need to talk about AirPods Pro

125 点作者 dmvinson大约 5 年前

13 条评论

JCharante大约 5 年前

I'm personally a fan of the conspiracy theory that because multiple ANC products have had their abilities reduced in firmware updates over the past couple years, research teams have been independently finding out that user's hearing are being damaged by highly effective ANC and have had to turn them down without admitting fault.Although I'm not even sure if that's how sound waves work, and recently there was Bose's investigation into their firmware update that didn't actually reduce their ANC despite user perspective. It's a fun theory up there with the fake existence of Finland.

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joshstrange大约 5 年前

Mine are on 2B588 and I think I bought them late enough that I never even had the original firmware to compare. I do know that when I first put them in I thought the power went out in my house (due the sudden lack of noise). I would like to know if I'm crazy or if these don't stay in ears well at all. Kind of the opposite of what you would expect from an earpod like this but I can get them to fall out in <10 seconds when eating with them in. Even when I'm not moving my jaw they have a habit of slowly sliding out.And before I get asked about tip size, I've tried all of them and done fit tests on all of them. Fit tests always pass, and the pods always fall out. I even tried different sizes on different ears over time to compare the two but they seem to fall out at the same rate. I just (like as in 2 hours ago) broke down and bought some foam tips from Amazon to see if that helps.It's really disappointing because my original AirPods were so magical and now I kind of don't like wearing the Pro's. I've considered more than once just buying AirPod 2's and giving up.

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ed大约 5 年前

> We needI think this problem is pretty far down the list of World’s Top Problems

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jpalomaki大约 5 年前

There has been also some comments about people feeling "pressure" with the noise cancelling headphones. Couple of old articles mentioning this [1] and [2].It's not about pressure as having something tucked into your ears, but related to the noise cancelling: "You may notice a pressure-like feeling in your ears when you first put noise-cancelling headphones on, like when you want to 'pop' your ears. This is caused by your brain perceiving the lack of low low-frequency sound as a pressure differential between your inner and outer ear, just like when you ascend in an airplane." If you search for Airpods and pressure, there are also comments on Reddit etc. I did not investigate if those are referring to this phenomenon.Something like this could explain why Apple would like to tweak with the noise cancelling.[1]<a href="https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know-technology/noise-cancelling-headphones" rel="nofollow">https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know-technology/no...</a> [2] <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/technology/personaltech/03pogue.html?mtrref=www.google.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/technology/personaltech/0...</a>

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jiofih大约 5 年前

> I actually told myself I would need to be extra careful from now on crossing the road. The noise cancellation was so good, I thought I might be hit by a car.Sounds like the author hasn’t ever used any other good ANC cans? Both the Bose and Sony pose the same hazard.

snapetom大约 5 年前

I can't imagine Scenario #1 being the issue. It should have been the first thing they looked at when designing it. If it is, it's a new level of terrible QA that Apple has been plagued with in recent years.My lack of faith in humanity can see #4. Another great thing nerfed by dumb people.Regardless, the firmware releases are an embarassing fiasco that demonstrates a lack of coordination and communication within Apple.

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traspler大约 5 年前

I never noticed the "whoosh" silence with the AirPod Pros when I tried them BUT I noticed something like that on my iPhone XR. Sometimes when I am on a call and hold/press the phone to my ear in a certain way I have the sensation of losing most of my hearing in that ear with only the voice remaining. The sensation never lasts longer than a couple of seconds but it's only on phone calls that I ever noticed this. I never had that with any other smartphone, even ones claiming to have noise canceling during calls. Reading this article makes me belobe that the iPhone still has the original AirPod ANC which is just less effective due to the bad seal.Did anyone else notice this?

thefabsta大约 5 年前

I've bought AirPods Pro in early November right after they were released. From my personal experience, the background firmware updates have had a very noticeable effect. I can attest to the perceived weakening of ANC (as opposed to the initial firmware) the article mentions.One firmware update has even rendered one of my AirPods Pro practically unusable due to a strange clicking noise that would occur whenever I was walking/running with ANC enabled, likely due to accelerations acting upon it. I was convinced it was a hardware fault and was ready to return them until another firmware update fixed the problem (until now at least).

someonehere大约 5 年前

Maybe litigation about the earbuds being too quiet might happen if someone doesn’t hear something behind them like a car horn or oncoming something. I used to wear noise cancelling headphones while walking to work in downtown SF. It was too much cancellation that bothered me because I couldn’t hear anything approaching me from behind. I can easily see the opposite happen if someone was killed with the OG firmware. “Are AirPods too quiet? Do they put you at risk?”

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herval大约 5 年前

I got a pair of Pros as soon as they came out. The fit was weird (maybe I got used to regular Airpods), but what made me return them is I ALWAYS got nausea after a few minutes with the noise cancelling turned on. It’s anecdotal of course, but maybe there was something on v1 that added latency/something to the external noise, thus inducing motion sickness? (Never got to try the new firmware to confirm the theory)

windex大约 5 年前

Ive stopped buying anything with non replaceable batteries after noticing how much junk I accumulated just coz the batteries died. Anyone know of good bluetooth receivers (the types that clip to your pocket) that take an AA or AAA battery?I am just absolutely fed up of the battery situation. By the time the devices are broken in and you are comfortable, it's time to buy another pair. I am not that rich.

_bxg1大约 5 年前

I got mine in December (I believe this means I had the "bad" firmware), but I still loved them immediately.However, about 1 month later I noticed that noise cancelling (and passthrough as well, which was even more annoying) wasn't really working on one side. I tried factory-resetting them, tried everything I could think of, and nothing helped. So I scheduled an Apple Store appointment. To Apple's credit, they replaced the one on the side that wasn't working, for free, with very few questions asked.However, that's when things got weird.Now the older one wasn't cancelling/passing-through as well as the brand new one. It was doing something, just not as much, which led to a really distracting audible asymmetry. This was confirmed by the fit test not working in just that one ear. Again I tried updating the firmware, factory-resetting, etc.Eventually I found this thread on MacRumors: <a href="https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/airpod-pro-ear-tip-fit-test-not-working-not-the-only-one.2208392/post-27997343" rel="nofollow">https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/airpod-pro-ear-tip-fit-...</a>tl;dr, it seems that some of the meshed gaps/microphones the Airpods Pro use to calibrate their various special audio features get very easily clogged by ear wax, skin oil, etc. And they're extremely sensitive to this, to the point where you have to clean them out very frequently to prevent degradation. I went through and rigorously cleaned them - rubbing alcohol, cotton swaps, etc. - and even then mine still have problems. The only way I can prevent the asymmetry it is to turn off the "active sound" features altogether. But this means that not only don't I get full noise-cancelling, I can't even safely use them just to listen to music in any spaces where I need to be able to hear my surroundings. They are now worse than the regular Airpods that I gave up when I got them.This is completely unacceptable for a product that costs $250, but at this point I'm exasperated. I'm tired of going to the Apple Store, and it's presumably not even open right now with the virus going. I wish I could just turn them in and get a refund, but I think it's been too long. If I could do that I'd probably even buy a new pair of the regular ones and just go back to those; mine had worked mostly without problems for over a year. At this point I don't know what to do about it all except hope there's a recall-like process like they did with the butterfly keyboards.

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danlugo92大约 5 年前

> AirPods firmware updates happen automatically. And unlike with iOS and macOS updates, they can’t be stopped. You’re getting the update whether you like it or not.