See also:<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1482784" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1482784</a><p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1290235" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1290235</a><p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1232842" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1232842</a>