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Try Linux

81 点作者 freddyym大约 5 年前

28 条评论

Ingon大约 5 年前
I think too many distributions is part of the problem. Especially starting out, you don’t really know&#x2F;understand what the difference is between each other. You just want something that works for your case and skill level.<p>I wouldn’t put all these options together, but rather focus on a few distributions that are easy to setup and work well. If we want ppl to move to linux, we should focus on them. Present them with a few options that work really well, with guides on how to start up coming from windows&#x2F;mac and solving their problems. Just presenting a list of options doesn’t make the decision easier.<p>Personally, I’m using Pop_OS! because its easy to setup, works well on laptops, gets out of your way, and its more or less Ubuntu underneath, so its much easier to find software and help for it. But the distribution that really converted me over was Manjaro
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sfifs大约 5 年前
After being Linux exclusive on my personal laptop(s) for over a decade, I just went back to Windows + WSL 2.<p>With WSL 2, there&#x27;s very little reason to use Linux desktop any more. The windows cleartype, touchpad driver and sleep work a lot better while giving you a regular Linux environment and you don&#x27;t have to dual boot to get Office and creative software
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jamescun大约 5 年前
I&#x27;ve personally switched to using Ubuntu 20.04 on my desktop, and honestly the switch has been uninteresting - which is a good thing. Works perfectly as a software engineering environment.<p>I know it has been controversial in the Linux community and among long-term Ubuntu users, but Snaps are what made my switch relatively painless. Everything I need on my daily driver (Firefox, VSCode, Slack, Spotify...) is just there waiting for me. Don&#x27;t need to fuss around with a package manager, third-party repositories etc.<p>I am not completely Linux however, I still maintain my MacBook Pro for on-the-go work and an iPad down-time&#x2F;multimedia purposes.
isoprophlex大约 5 年前
Interesting page but maybe overwhelming to newbies. How is a beginner going to select a distribution from that huge list? choosing &#x27;beginner&#x27; distros still leaves you with a long list of options, and no other easy means of comparing between them.<p>Let alone how to figure out which desktop environment to choose from...
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schmudde大约 5 年前
Well - all the options are part of the problem. I use Pop!_OS because it was the balance between getting things done and spending hours tinkering with my machine.<p>It&#x27;s not that I don&#x27;t enjoy it. It&#x27;s just a question of where I need to be spending my time.
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secondo大约 5 年前
<i>Unlike Windows and MacOS Linux gives you options</i><p>I’d rather say Linux gives you choices. Choices that you have to make, rather than options with (sensible) defaults. This is a big reason for why I’ve been unable to switch from macos to Linux as a daily driver every time I’ve tried in the past ten years.<p>Ironically, it’s simply too costly. Macos has been degrading over the past 6-7 years, but it’s still pretty good at standing out the way.<p>I’m gladly proven wrong if you can point at a path I’ve missed.
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bauerd大约 5 年前
Don&#x27;t understand why Debian would be listed as &quot;Intermediate&quot;, while Ubuntu is listed as &quot;Beginner&quot;. IMHO lots of problems just vanish once you switch from Ubuntu to Debian …
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nogabebop23大约 5 年前
&gt;&gt; While it may seem overwhelming to see all your OS options on Linux, you may instead find it comforting<p>This is probably less common on HN, but I already have so many technology decisions to make, I don&#x27;t really want to continually experiment with my OS. I just want it to disappear into the background, not be the star (or even really a conscious thought)<p>EDIT: huh, I added this comment when I saw no others, but it turns out my reaction isn&#x27;t too uncommon, considering the audience here.<p>Too clarify, there are lots of situations where the OS should be a real first class concern, I&#x27;m just not convinced we&#x27;ll ever get much traction at the general user PC level.
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lmilcin大约 5 年前
Once you get bored with a regular distribution you can go and try Linux from Scratch.<p>Me, personally, this was the tool that really introduced me to Linux OS. Understanding how everything is put together and how it bootstraps will make you a better user of whatever distro you choose in the end. (No, don&#x27;t use LFS on your workstation.)
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DominikD大约 5 年前
Kernel has been ready for prime time for ages now. It&#x27;s the distros - fragmentation and quality - that&#x27;s still the problem.
guidovranken大约 5 年前
What people don&#x27;t seem to realize is that an increase of popularity of Linux will lead to a tragedy of the commons situation. Desktop Linux currently is mature enough to be usable for most everyday tasks, but has a small enough market share to generally not fall prey to adware, spyware, malware, telemetry, backdoors, EEE type strategies, closed source blobs creeping into the ecosystem and so forth. As its market share increases, the more viable a target it becomes for such things.
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apercu大约 5 年前
So I tried the linux thing off and on for about 6 years. After sun os, unixware, solaris, HP&#x2F;UX, irix, bsd&#x2F;freebsd, macOS, windows 3.1, 95, 98, NT and so on.<p>The issue is every time I buy hardware (primarily laptops) there was a lot of research in to the components and the quality.<p>I kept finding myself going back to OSX. It was just easier to in many many ways.<p>But now OSX is bloated nagware.
haunter大约 5 年前
I&#x27;d. Really. But every time there is a problem (and usually I have more problems than under Windows or MacOS) I have to search forums and obscure blogs for hours and tinkering in the terminal while praying to not break something else too. Maybe I&#x27;m just too &quot;casual&quot; for the Linux experience.
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new_realist大约 5 年前
The problem is not enough people trying Linux. The problem is that it is not compelling for non-geeks or non-free software activists. Mainstream users don’t have problems that Linux solves. If anything, it adds problems.
otikik大约 5 年前
Of all the Linux distros out there, the one that calls to me the most is NixOS.<p>Do people use NixOS as their main OS? Does it have a &quot;default desktop flavour&quot;, like Ubuntu does? (the manual seems to suggest XFCE - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nixos.org&#x2F;nixos&#x2F;manual&#x2F;index.html#sec-xfce" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nixos.org&#x2F;nixos&#x2F;manual&#x2F;index.html#sec-xfce</a>)
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smitty1e大约 5 年前
See your &quot;advanced&quot;; raise you <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;linuxfromscratch.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;linuxfromscratch.org&#x2F;</a><p>Which isn&#x27;t a great idea for any business scenario, much less, personal productivity context.<p>However, if you want to level up in your Linux-fu, it cannot be recommend highly enough.
axegon_大约 5 年前
openSUSE &quot;intermediate&quot;? Huh? I&#x27;ve been using openSUSE for the past ~5 years. Sure enough, the repos are not as rich as the popular distros but everything always works out of the box, including proprietary software(which can be a nightmare even on mainstream distros).
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livatlantis大约 5 年前
Ah exactly what I was looking for — a quick summary of the specificities&#x2F;main features of each distribution. Thank you! I&#x27;m considering running one of these in a VM to play with Linux again. The last time was elementary OS on a Chromebook and I really enjoyed that.
TheGrassyKnoll大约 5 年前
Don&#x27;t be thinking there&#x27;s only 30 of em:<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;distrowatch.com&#x2F;</code></pre>
maallooc大约 5 年前
This website shows the exact reason I don&#x27;t use Linux out of virtual machines. In terms of desktop, there are so much whatever from whoever and they are all broken horribly that it&#x27;s not even a joke anymore.<p>Unlike Windows and MacOS Linux gives you options. That is the exact reason why I don&#x27;t use Linux in desktop.
simonblack大约 5 年前
Cars and computers:<p>&quot;You can have any color you like, so long as it&#x27;s black.&quot; = &quot;Too many distributions&quot;<p>But look outside. What do you see? One size and color of motor vehicle? Definitely not. There are multiple brands of cars, there are multiple brands of trucks. There are multiple body shapes, there are multiple different seating capacities, there are multiple colors, there are multiple &#x27;add-on&#x27; options.<p>Somehow we never say &quot;There are too many different cars available&quot;. Why not?<p>It&#x27;s time we got over the denigration of Linux. It&#x27;s time we got over putting Linux on a pedestal.<p>Linux is Linux. Select what flavor you want.<p>Windows is Windows. Some people prefer it.<p>MacOS is MacOS. Some other people prefer that.<p>Who cares what other people want and use? As long as YOU are happy with what <i>car</i> you drive, or what <i>computer OS</i> you drive, it&#x27;s nobody&#x27;s business but yours. And it&#x27;s no business of yours what the next guy chooses.
lazyjones大约 5 年前
Desktop Linux will stay in the hobbyist domain forever if so much effort is spent on polishing separate &quot;options&quot; i.e. Distributions, window managers etc. when fixing the tools used by most users would be more important.<p>Are the differences between package managers and keeping them really so important that it&#x27;s not possible to do everyone a favour and agree on using just the best one? Sure, it&#x27;s nice to have &quot;options&quot; but as the decades fly by, people seem to use that mostly as an excuse for still not having a user-friendly desktop Linux.
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jamil7大约 5 年前
Has anyone had success doing mobile development on linux? Thanks to XCode it seems it&#x27;s a no-go for a lot of mobile developers.
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bubblethink大约 5 年前
linux evangalism is counter productive. In each of these threads, all the mac&#x2F;windows people will come out of the woodworks and talk about how if only linux did xyz better, they would switch. Unfortunately, it doesn&#x27;t, so they can&#x27;t. Nobody learns anything new. The cycle repeats even if xyz is solved later with some new xyz. And in my experience, you cannot &quot;convert&quot; people to linux except for people who really are a blank slate (young and old people fit in this bucket, but average people do not). They have too much baggage, and nobody wins. People need to discover their own things.
CtrlShiftI大约 5 年前
Why is Debian intermediate and ubuntu beginner?
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flyx86大约 5 年前
This whole page is basically insulting the intelligence of users.<p>&gt; It&#x27;s about time you try Linux<p>implying that while you did have heard of Linux, you misjudged it.<p>&gt; Unlike Windows and MacOS Linux gives you options<p>This is factually wrong, anyone knows that both Windows and macOS give you a lot of options.<p>&gt; The major operating systems put their users in a box, while Linux allows you to choose an OS that fits your needs and skill level.<p>implying that you can&#x27;t run macOS or Windows by choice. No, obviously zombie Steve Jobs forced you to buy a Mac for a lot of money.<p>&gt; and &quot;free&quot; here refers not to the cost of the software but to its liberty—as no one entity owns the software it essentially belongs to everyone, without restriction<p>This is factually wrong but okay, copyright law is a complicated thing and it wouldn&#x27;t make much sense to discuss that here.<p>&gt; So, in part, making the switch to Linux is an ethical decision about the software you use on a daily basis, and the rights you and others have to the information and things you use.<p>implying that if I choose to buy a software for money to support its developers because I think they&#x27;re doing a good job, this is somehow unethical. Actually, there were no ethics discussed in the previous paragraph, so this is a conclusion without foundation.<p>&gt; Most open source operating systems are completely free both in price &amp; licensing. There are typically no upfront fees, lengthy legal agreements, or restrictive copyright protections.<p>Um, did they ever see the GNU GPL?<p>&gt; Free software is developed completely transparently which means the source code is out there in the open for anyone to look at. This means, if you wanted to, you can have a meaningful influence over the software development process.<p>That is not generally true. If you look for example at SQlite, you&#x27;ll find that while this is a piece of free software used by millions, they generally don&#x27;t accept patches or any other kind of influence.<p>&gt; There are thousands of free software applications available to install without the need to browse the web. All this software undergoes scrutinous review before it reaches you, so you can find and use what you like with confidence.<p>implying that either non-free software isn&#x27;t reviewed or that somehow I should trust people I don&#x27;t know that review free software, but not people I don&#x27;t know that review non-free software.<p>&gt; With LibreOffice, you can also open and edit any Word, Powerpoint, or Excel files you may already have.<p>Anyone who ever tried opening a non-trivial Excel sheet with LibreOffice would disagree on that.<p>&gt; On other platforms, the creative field is dominated by proprietary applications, but there are several capable free and open source alternatives.<p>… which also run on Windows and macOS.<p>---<p>There are a lot of good arguments you can make in favor for Linux. This page totally botches it.
makach大约 5 年前
<i>jokingly</i><p>Oooh...! I <i>really</i> want to... But Windows is getting so good! It is where I have my fluff and stuff.<p>I use it serverside, is that ok? I also own a MacBook which I use frequently, does that count a little?
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new_realist大约 5 年前
I recommend trying OSes in this order:<p>- iOS&#x2F;iPadOS<p>- Android<p>- ChromeOS<p>- MacOS<p>- Windows<p>Only if none of these work would I recommend trying a Linux distribution. Even then I’d try a more modern OS like Fuchsia or seL4 first, just for kicks.