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Google removes over 5M reviews from Play Store to improve TikTok rating

294 点作者 sdan将近 5 年前

18 条评论

chipperyman573将近 5 年前
This really hits on a lot of nerves of the general HN crowd (especially when these things are combined):<p>- Google<p>- &quot;Censorship&quot; (loosely defined)<p>- China (vs India vs a US company, which could really be its own point)<p>But if you read the article it seems to be a logical decision. Google (likely) did something similar for zoom: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidpolice.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;24&#x2F;zooms-android-app-rating-has-been-absolutely-destroyed-by-coronavirus&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidpolice.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;24&#x2F;zooms-android-app-r...</a><p>Assuming there&#x27;s nothing left out by the author, I don&#x27;t really think there&#x27;s anything newsworthy here, just something that google did that aligns with its past actions (not to say it doesn&#x27;t belong on HN)
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Barrin92将近 5 年前
&gt;<i>&quot;Another reason was the enraged fans of famous Indian YouTuber Carry Minati flooding PlayStore with 1-star reviews.<p>Carry Minati had created a video titled YouTube Vs TikTok, part of an ongoing feud between YouTube and TikTok users. His video went viral and was taken down for violating YouTube’s terms of service. This happended because many TikTok users reported the video saying it was bullying in nature.&quot;</i><p>Seems reasonable enough to remove those because this is just brigarding and has nothing to do with authentic users of the app.
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kumarvvr将近 5 年前
I understand the need to remove &quot;review bombs&quot;, but aren&#x27;t review bombs reviews too?<p>Say a company that develops a product says or does something insensitive, in the earlier days, people would publicly boycott that product, related products or what have you. The company would either stand down and apologize, or put it&#x27;s foot down and say it&#x27;s right.<p>Now picture the same thing with Tik-Tok. There are innumerable instances where Tik-tok has been shown to be biased, censors specific content, etc etc.<p>Review bombing is as good as boycotting a company. Causing a company real consequences in response to their actions.<p>It&#x27;s a form of rightful protest. I am not using the product. I am expressing my views about the product in a review system that is public and open. As long as there are no bots involves, Google is morally wrong, in my view.
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hn_throwaway_99将近 5 年前
Curious, how is India Today generally regarded in India? I ask because to me the style and tone of this article sounds like something that came out of an elementary school newspaper. E.g. &quot;It was still the talk of the town but for all the wrong reasons&quot;, &quot;could be the result of Google removing user reviews so that the app could get some balance.&quot; The hackneyed cliches and oddly stating a presumption as fact just strike me as extremely juvenile.<p>I&#x27;m in no way saying US news is better, and it is often times much worse, but it&#x27;s usually not worse in the way this article is.
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cscurmudgeon将近 5 年前
People are discussing this as a China vs India thing.<p>It is not.<p>People recently found that TikTok is extremely lax in dealing with content that promotes violence.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsweek.com&#x2F;india-tik-tok-faizal-siddiqui-acid-attack-1505122" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsweek.com&#x2F;india-tik-tok-faizal-siddiqui-acid-...</a>
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londons_explore将近 5 年前
I&#x27;d take a guess the real explanation is far simpler... Google let&#x27;s anyone write a review, but if an end-of-week logs analysis shows that you never installed the app, or that the review was written via tor from an account created 30 seconds ago, then it&#x27;s removed as spam.
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MintelIE将近 5 年前
Were they real reviews, or Indian review-bombs generated as part of a nationalistic campaign to get back at China?<p>Review sections were weaponized long ago, first by companies, and now, increasingly, by nations.
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tehlike将近 5 年前
Google did this as part of review integrity. Doesn&#x27;t have anything to do with censorship, as far as i can tell.<p>disclaimer: ex-google employee, who did not work in play.
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Thorrez将近 5 年前
&gt;to improve TikTok rating<p>The article gives no evidence of this. Sure the rating improved from 1.2&#x2F;5 to 1.5&#x2F;5, but that doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s the purpose of the removal.
tiktokVsYoutube将近 5 年前
Posting from a throwaway account - This article barely scratches the surface. This was a very entertaining story that I followed to the minute and here’s some context:<p>Tiktok content, specifically in India, from the very start has been very[1] very[2] _cringy_ (weird hairstyles, weird things being said, weird ways of expressing friendship, love, etc). I don’t mean the cringe that you associate with western Tiktok content but for some reason majority of what the Indian kids were producing stood out as being beyond cringe to existing internet users (mainly Youtube &#x2F; Instagram userbase). I suspect this has to do with the millions of first-time internet &#x2F; smartphone users on Tiktok + the heavy influence of exaggerated emotional Bollywood drama now being done in 15 seconds on a smartphone.<p>Youtube on the other hand obviously had an existing audience that was used to consuming content of a certain level of quality &#x2F; production. Apart from just pure cringe content, Tiktok obviously did not bother with copyright infringements much and in fact promoted the concept of people plagiarizing each other’s work. So the Youtube &#x2F; IG communities started making memes and calling out the cringe and bad content of Tiktok.<p>At some point one of the big influencers on Tiktok (Amir Siddiqui referred to in this article) provoked one of the biggest Indian Youtuber, Carryminati who is known for roasting people. Amir made a video saying Tiktok videos require talent, hard work, and a lot more dedication than Youtube videos and basically asked Carry to roast him.<p>Carry then took on the challenge and released an 8-minute roast video that beautifully called out all the cringe that tiktok users make, things that Amir had done in the past, etc. That Youtube roast video set several records within hours. The roast was actually so effective, it was hilarious to browse through Tiktok for the next few days as the entire Tiktok community sort of agreed and started making fun of each other and that single video actually shook the entire Tiktok community.<p>About 5-6 days later, Youtube took down the video (which was now the highest liked video of India by far) without explanation probably after receiving thousands of flags from tiktok users. It’s worth mentioning that the roast included comparisons of Amir to being a eunuch multiple times among other questionable insults because of his past tiktok videos. In my opinion, the video was definitely not trying to be Politically Correct but it wasn’t bad enough to be taken down.<p>Once the video was taken down, the Youtube and Instagram(meme pages) community started a campaign to leave a 1-star rating for Tiktok on the playstore and basically destroyed their rating which was about 4.5 when this started.<p>In case you’re wondering, I am an avid HN reader, an accomplished software engineer but I do spend about 5% of my free time enjoying Indian cringe. In fact I curate a big list of my favorites and share with my friends but very few people actually enjoy the cringe.<p>Was it worth explaining all of this to one of the most intellectually stimulating forums on the internet? Probably not. But I had to admit to myself that I know a lot more about this story than I’m proud to admit and that it would make me happy that it gets saved in the HN archive.<p>A copy of the original video that was taken down by Youtube - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=yoZ241zUgbA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=yoZ241zUgbA</a><p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ciYohWR2Pio" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ciYohWR2Pio</a> [2] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Bg9gjmcHgE8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Bg9gjmcHgE8</a>
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tw1912112将近 5 年前
This is a really good case for network effects. If you go through the reviews, a lot of people are complaining that they are not getting any &quot;views&quot; for their content. As more and more people are bombing the reviews, uninstalling, it&#x27;s discouraging people from creating more content because it&#x27;s not being viewed enough.<p>Does anyone know if disabling views or delaying gratification of content will reduce the damaging effect on the TikTok network?<p>Also, vis-a-vis Yelp, why should review bombs be removed when I can go to a restaurant and review it as 1-rated if I am not treated well by them even if I don&#x27;t complete any transaction?
sloshnmosh将近 5 年前
The Google Play Store reviews are pretty much worthless and corrupted by ratings farms and app developers that steal the users google credentials to post fake 5 star reviews from within the app itself. There was a time where you didn’t have the option to only view negative reviews. At least that has improved to where users have options in a drop-down menu.
DigitallyFidget将近 5 年前
It has only a 1.4 star rating as of right now. It clearly didn&#x27;t do anything to help the rating of the app.
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presiozo将近 5 年前
Seems like every major tech company bows in front of the Chinese government. This is really scary
shadowgovt将近 5 年前
I wonder if there&#x27;s any signal to disambiguate whether Google decided to kill the reviews or algorithmically determined 5 million accounts were bots, and those bots also happened to have been used in a TikTok brigading campaign.
OwnsE将近 5 年前
I thought review manipulation goes against google policy? Or this only applies for apps with a limited budget?
nwienert将近 5 年前
I just stumbled on a site that heavily leans on the “tech is censoring Trump” angle, namely this article about Google taking down a study on Hydroxycholoquine. I thought of posting it to front page, but instead I can just attach to this other timely thread of Google being evil&#x2F;censors.<p>Genuinely curious about info people have around this, if it is legit or not. It seems like something you’d have expected to see here front page, but then again this site leans left.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defyccc.com&#x2F;google-deleted-covid19-cure-paper&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defyccc.com&#x2F;google-deleted-covid19-cure-paper&#x2F;</a>
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PunksATawnyFill将近 5 年前
YouTube and TikTok are cavalcades of human stupidity.<p>Things aren&#x27;t getting better.
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