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Indians cry out for Apple's attention

53 点作者 bakbak大约 14 年前

10 条评论

atishbabu大约 14 年前
the article misses a big point on why Apple products are slow to come to India. the Indian government has imposed a 51% FDI (foreign ownership) cap on single-brand retail stores, hence the most apple could own if they started apple stores in India is 51%.<p>India sells very little electronics online as of yet so most of Apple sales happen online. so if you are Apple and you arbitrarily have to give up 49% for no reason wouldn't you wait for regulations to change instead of helping prop up some arbitrary partner that you are forced to do business with? moreover, if you have to prioritize markets, wouldn't you prioritize markets where you own all of the business that you created before giving inventory that is in short-supply to a market where you are forced to sell through 3rd parties?<p>also, this does not even start to address the duties and other fees imposed on apple for selling in India which jacks up prices for their products and reduces their addressable market. again, if you have to prioritize wouldn't you choose markets that were more friendly assuming limited supplies of your product were available. wouldn't you only come in when supplies were high enough or products were saturated enough in other markets that were more favorable to you?<p>the article also confuses the population for India with Apple's available market in India, because of income levels in India a very small portion of the population has the income and desire to buy Apple products (Remember, India is the market of the TATA Nano, the 1 lakh car or about $2000 to $2500 USD based on the USD-INR exchange rate). Indians tend to very cost sensitive. Yes, India has over a billion people, but I bet Apple's market in India is 0.1% of the population or 1 million people max (and even then I think that 0.11% is high and overly generous). Compare that to Dubai or Singapore or Belgium where the population is much smaller but Apple's addressable market is higher due to incomes and purchasing behaviors.<p>I am Indian and live in Mumbai and would prefer new Apple products to be available in India sooner rather than later (I have a iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, and MacBook Pro), but I understand why Apple has made certain business decisions in how they prioritize their markets.
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alienreborn大约 14 年前
I have many friends and relatives who use apple products but none of them bought them in india but imported them via relatives and friends who live in US. Buying an apple product(except low end ipod models) in india is prohibitively costly and illogical since you will end up buying an older version.<p>Even though India not as lucrative as western markets for high end tech gadgets, the market is ever increasing and Apple should seriously change their strategy in India. It would be great if they open iStores in Metros where there definitely is a vast market to tap in.
fpgeek大约 14 年前
I really think they should have should have said <i>something</i> about Notion Ink. While there have been bumps in the road, Indians aren't just waiting for Apple or Samsung to smile on them. Some Indians are making tablets of their own.
Jabbles大约 14 年前
<i>An Apple spokesman who asked not to be named said that the company did not disclose sales figures for India or discuss future release dates for products. He also declined to comment on criticism of Apple's strategy in India.</i><p>Useful...<p>What's most intriguing is that there is almost certainly some good (financial) reason for this strategy. Perhaps it's to do with marketing as Apple tries to make their products a sign of "rich and have friends globally" before opening up sales. I wonder how many new iPads Apple made for sale in India, or whether they are continuing to use existing stock.
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brudgers大约 14 年前
Although India is seeing economic growth, attaining US levels for income is a long way off. The top 5% of Indians by income have approximately the same level of purchasing power as the the lowest 5% of US residents on average according to World Bank economist Branko Milanovic in <i>The Haves and the Have-Nots, a Brief and Idiosyncratic History of Global Inequality</i>. [<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Haves-Have-Nots-Idiosyncratic-History-Inequality/dp/0465019749" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Haves-Have-Nots-Idiosyncratic-History-...</a>]<p>That's not to say that there are not a large number of Indian individuals with substantial purchasing power (5% of Indians is 50 million people compared with 15 million in the US so there is a lot of disparity within the Indian group). Nevertheless, nearly everyone in the United States has more purchasing power than most of the top portion by income of the Indian population.<p>For Apple, it is a simple matter of economics - they will sell more iPads elsewhere and by creating scarcity they can sell older models at a high price to offset the lower profits Apple accepts when selling new products in wealthier countries.
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Isamu大约 14 年前
I am confident that India is on Apple's radar screen, and they are certainly interested in broadening their international markets. The fact that they don't discuss their strategy is well known and not surprising in this case. I also don't think anybody should be surprised that the business issues are different and complex compared to the US. This is probably further complicated by the fact that Apple wants to do things on its own terms most of the time.<p>As an aside for those who get tired of the news about Apple on HN, I find it a very good source of study for anybody interested in business. In particular you see Apple going against the conventional wisdom sometimes and they come up a winner. They have managed to put together a very robust team and are still in a period of explosive revenue growth. What's not to talk about?
ved大约 14 年前
One more reason not to use Apple products in India...
unwantedLetters大约 14 年前
The Reliance iStore (which is a "premium reseller" of Apple products and what most Indians think is an Apple store) was selling me a non-unibody Mac in mid-2010 in Chennai (a fairly large city of approximately 4.6 million people). I didn't bother to check what rev it actually was, but it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth about Apple.<p>The iStore website: <a href="http://www.istoreindia.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.istoreindia.com/index.html</a><p>(edit: I must add that they don't have the machine online, I was just linking to the iStore website)
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jrubyer大约 14 年前
Why is Hacker News becoming more and more Apple News?<p>//I don't care about the downvotes, this needs to be said.
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bakbak大约 14 年前
"Indians are not maximalists, but they are not minimalists either."<p>"Indians like the idea of more in less."<p>India is a very different market and I guess Apple will take time to understand it but I hope its not too late ... Indian market is for both (classes &#38; masses) and they both love and want Apple products... i was happy when i heard Tim Cook saying that Apple can't make products only for rich - this came when i guess cheaper iphone rumor was in media, and if Apple wants to remain world leader even 50yrs from now then they have to turn this rumor in to reality asap by pushing their innovation button even harder than ever before... India is a HUGE HUGE market and to understand that you require your active presence there ...Indians like the idea of more in less and that is the biggest challenge for any non-indian companies, because they just dont get it (in the beginning) ... for the first few years they struggle until they understand social-cultural-economical way of thinking of this unique society...
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