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macOS Big Sur Preview

277 点作者 0xedb将近 5 年前

71 条评论

cytzol将近 5 年前
I was really hoping they&#x27;d take some time to address Catalina&#x27;s glaring issues — its slowness, bugginess, just general sloppiness — and instead they did the opposite.<p>Honestly, every time Apple has done <i>anything</i> with the Mac the past couple of years, they&#x27;ve screwed it up. The infamous keyboards that they doubled-down and then tripled-down upon (I have personally had five keyboard replacements). The way Catalina sends the hash of every binary you run to Apple. The built-in Catalyst apps that look ugly and feel out-of-place. The Touch Bar which I still, years later, inadvertently activate several times a day (I&#x27;ve had to remove all the buttons on the right), which they addressed by making <i>mandatory</i>. The recurring bugs and kernel panics that have been lying around for years, unfixed.<p>I have the least confidence in Apple I&#x27;ve ever had. I&#x27;m afraid to run Big Sur, not because it changes things, but because it&#x27;s <i>Apple</i> who are behind it.
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AnonC将近 5 年前
The UI and UX seem to be getting worse on macOS with the “iOSification” of the OS. I thought Jony Ive’s exit would stop that trend. It’ll be interesting to read perspectives from John Gruber, M J Tsai, Marco Arment, etc.<p>I still haven’t upgraded from Mojave to Catalina because of serious bugs reported by other people (including data loss issues in Mail). I’ll see if Big Sur shows improvements (reported by others) and decide when to upgrade. I don’t even run beta versions of macOS point updates, which is in stark contrast to iOS betas, which have been of better quality (comparatively).<p>Edit: Apple seems to be ignoring long term Mac users (even the vocal ones) for quite sometime. It was poorer hardware quality and lack of hardware updates for several years. Now it’s software, where it’s been going about removing what makes native macOS experiences great. The Catalyst apps are not “native Mac apps” by any stretch of imagination.
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SenHeng将近 5 年前
I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.
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bonestormii_将近 5 年前
I appreciate aesthetic beauty of rooms, buildings, and interfaces, but to me what has jumped the shark is the entire conversation about icons, fonts, and toolbars.<p>No one can explain why the icons, fonts, and toolbars from 3 years ago aren&#x27;t good enough anymore. No one can explain why we need constant &quot;refreshers&quot;.<p>Let&#x27;s say you have a new microwave. Every microwave&#x27;s controls are a little different, but you know generally the conventions of their limited interfaces. There are presets; separate non-microwave functions like timers; maybe a light and a fan control.<p>The first few times you use it, it&#x27;s a little weird. But you use the same one for like 5-10 years at a time. It becomes effortless, second nature. Food in, door shoot, beep-boop-beep by muscle-memory. Your food is ready.<p>Imagine someone snuck into your home and rearranged the buttons, and changed some underlying functions. Now, when the timer is done, you don&#x27;t hit the timer button to clear the display--you hold the cancel&#x2F;stop button that also turns off the microwave. They think it&#x27;s more logical that way.<p>It doesn&#x27;t matter, but it&#x27;s frustrating. &quot;Why was that necessary?&quot;, you might ask yourself. Neither way is fundamentally more or less logical. It&#x27;s just different.<p>It&#x27;s not that changes are bad, but semi-annual changes for utilitarian things seem excessive. You accept a certain amount of change when you replace your microwave, or your car, or your computer. But not when you take your car to be tuned up. They don&#x27;t replace the break pads, and then change the location of the stereo&#x27;s volume knob.<p>I think he philosophy of heavy handed redesign was useful in bringing computer interfaces to up to new hardware specs early on in tech, but we&#x27;re reaching a point where they should be slowed down in favor of utility. The claim that it is design in the name of usability is no longer true. Call it what it is. It is merely seasonal fashion and nothing more. Some fashions are timeless. We should find them and stick with them as defaults that we are very hesitant to change.<p>Consistency can facilitate clean design, allowing you to conceal and expose complexity by strongly established conventions, helping to achieve balance on the beauty-utility continuum.
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lisper将近 5 年前
IMHO Apple&#x27;s design jumped the shark a long time ago. Even apart from the aesthetics of the &quot;flat&quot; look, which I like about as much as fingernails on a chalkboard, Apple has completely abandoned the principles that made the original Mac great: ease of use and discoverability. Once upon a time it was easy to tell where the affordances were, what you could click on, editable vs non-editable text. Nowadays everything looks the same. The only way to tell whether something is clickable is to try to click on it. The only way you can tell whether something is editable is to try to edit it. And the UI is lousy with hidden features that only show up when you hover over them, with absolutely no indication of where they are until you happen to get lucky and move the mouse over one of them. Easter eggs lose their charm when you have to find one in order to accomplish an actual task.
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Wowfunhappy将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m mixed on the design.<p>I really, <i>really</i> dislike the way macOS has looked since Yosemite, and compared to that, I think this one is an improvement overall. The icons have more depth, and there&#x27;s far more use of color across the UI.<p>But, it also looks <i>extremely</i> mobile-inspired—I suspect Apple&#x27;s primary goal was to make iOS ports and apps look less out of place. That&#x27;s a fine objective, but it also means they weren&#x27;t designing <i>for</i> desktop and laptops specifically, and it shows. For instance, most of the apps lack title bars, and I&#x27;m not sure where I&#x27;d click to drag windows as a result.
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dcchambers将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m not sure why I continue to look forward to new Mac OS announcements every year when Apple continues to focus on consumer apps&#x2F;features and not pro&#x2F;developer features. Literally nothing in that preview page excites me as someone that uses Mac OS mainly for developing software. I wish they would use WWDC to announce developer and pro features and not consumer OS features.<p>I don&#x27;t really care for the UI changes, but I spend such little time in the UI that I guess it doesn&#x27;t matter much. The iOS-ification of Mac OS is an unfortunate change. I don&#x27;t use any of the built-in apps with the exception of terminal.app and finder. Meh.<p>Most interesting: This appears to be the end of &quot;OS X&quot; as version was listed as &quot;11.0&quot; in the keynote.<p>Will Big Sur and Mac OS (beyond OS X) continue to be certified UNIX?
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css将近 5 年前
Scrolling this site with a mouse is comically bad, this is clearly designed to be used only with a trackpad. I cant read most of the content without very carefully scrolling unnaturally. You also have to pause for the animations to play, but if you scroll one pixel too far they don&#x27;t play, so its a guessing game of whether you&#x27;re in the right place or whether you missed some content.
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switz将近 5 年前
I still remember the Snow Leopard &#x27;No New Features&#x27; launch. Mac OS has been as buggy as ever lately, I&#x27;d welcome another &#x27;no new features&#x27; release with open arms.
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kratom_sandwich将近 5 年前
So the &quot;About this Mac&quot; screen says &quot;Version 11.0&quot; ... A silent farewell to OS X?
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PascLeRasc将近 5 年前
One of my favorite small things about OS X has been the dock icons and their variety in shapes. Like how TextEdit has the pencil sticking out or Logic looks like a DJ turntable. It feels like that’s gone now.
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csomar将近 5 年前
I made the switch to Linux as my main OS for software development in the last month (archlinux with AMD Ryzen on a custom built box) and I&#x27;m not regretting it.<p>For a comparison, here is the Press Release for Snow Leopard (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;ca&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2009&#x2F;06&#x2F;08Apple-Unveils-Mac-OS-X-Snow-Leopard&#x2F;);" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;ca&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;2009&#x2F;06&#x2F;08Apple-Unveils-Ma...</a> here is an excerpt from the text<p>&gt; For the first time, system applications including Finder, Mail, iCal®, iChat® and Safari are 64-bit and Snow Leopard’s support for 64-bit processors makes use of large amounts of RAM, increases performance, and improves security while remaining compatible with 32-bit applications. Grand Central Dispatch (GCD) provides a revolutionary new way for software to take advantage of multicore processors. GCD is integrated throughout Snow Leopard, from new system-wide APIs to high-level frameworks and programming language extensions, improving responsiveness across the system. OpenCL, a C-based open standard, allows developers to tap the incredible power of the graphics processing unit for tasks that go beyond graphics.<p>Simple, useful information. Information and features that matters to software developers.<p>Instead in this new macOS we got: Safari, Messages and Maps. Apps that are not that much relevant (since people are too hooked in Firefox&#x2F;Chrome, Fb&#x2F;Ig, and Google Maps). If Apple wants to gain marketshare in these areas, that&#x27;s fine. But they are pushing them to their base as a macOS upgrade. Huh.<p>The only thing related to developers is XCode &quot;improvements&quot;. I guess the message is pretty clear now: The macOS is now only good to develop iOS apps and maybe do graphics&#x2F;audio&#x2F;video. If you are a web&#x2F;sys developer it might be a good idea to start looking for something else.
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adambware将近 5 年前
They&#x27;ve added padding to the design nearly everywhere - &quot;menu bar is now taller&quot;, &quot;Dock is lifted from the bottom&quot;, and the extra padding on the Sidebars is obvious.<p>As a power user of a Macbook Pro, this is cutting into my screen real estate and not very appealing to me.
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frou_dh将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m wondering if this is the release where OpenGL goes from deprecated to fully removed.<p>Presumably Apple didn&#x27;t want to write OpenGL drivers (full, not ES) for their in-house GPUs.
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interestica将近 5 年前
I mean, &#x27;beautiful new design&#x27; is subjective here. I know it&#x27;s the headline - but it&#x27;s a press release. This is an ad.
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Mobius01将近 5 年前
The move away from a standard window bar&#x2F;window chrome is a usability disaster in the making. I haven’t time to unpack what was shown yet but it did not leave me with a good impression.
wespiser_2018将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m seriously afraid of this. I have to keep my Mac updated for work, and Catalina was both a major frustration getting my toolchain up and working, and a constant time waste due to the daily kernel panics that are caused by a persistent, yet unknown, issue.
milkytron将近 5 年前
Is there a reason why Apple updates their Mac apps with each OS release, instead of individually through the app store?<p>I would imagine the changes to Safari could&#x27;ve been made without having to upgrade the OS.
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arduinomancer将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m getting the impression that Apple wants to merge the desktop&#x2F;iOS&#x2F;iPad platforms long term if you look at all the recent updates together.
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pcr910303将近 5 年前
I hate that they’re moving to a design where buttons don’t have borders and textures, don’t provide any visual guidances on what’s a button and what’s not.<p>But I absolutely despise them for making iOS apps installable on macOS. That’s... just terrible.<p>This WWDC just felt like that Apple decided that macOS should get merged with iOS and converged them. The Mac doesn’t have a future...
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potta_coffee将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m not excited about this update. I don&#x27;t want a &quot;bold new experience&quot;.
dguo将近 5 年前
As a developer, one thing I am excited about is that they are adding support for the WebExtensions API to Safari. This should make it feasible to port many Chrome&#x2F;Firefox extensions to Safari.
cercatrova将近 5 年前
Pretty sure that in the near future, macOS, iPadOS and iOS will be one and the same. They&#x27;ll just call it...Apple OS. This is readily apparent by Catalyst, ability to have native iOS and iPadOS apps, ARM architecture, and the changing of macOS&#x27; UI to slowly be closer to iOS&#x2F;iPadOS.
sandstrom将近 5 年前
I wonder if they have added support for Display Port MST? (daisy chaining two monitors over one USB-C&#x2F;thunderbolt cable)<p>Windows via Boot Camp support it, so it’s only a software limit.<p>It was my single biggest wish for this years macOS update.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@sebvance&#x2F;everything-you-need-to-know-about-macbook-pros-and-their-lack-of-displayport-mst-multi-stream-98ce33d64af4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@sebvance&#x2F;everything-you-need-to-know-abo...</a>
KenanSulayman将近 5 年前
Apple wants members of their $500 Universal App Quick Start program to send back their Developer Transition Kit (DTK) units after the program automatically expires (!) after one year. [1]<p>Citing directly from this document:<p>&gt; You agree to promptly return the Developer Transition Kit to the Apple address designated by Apple no later than thirty (30) days after the end of the Term, or as otherwise earlier requested by Apple (including via email or announcement by Apple on developer.apple.com).<p>&gt; At the end of the Term, You agree to immediately cease all use of the Developer Transition Kit and the Universal App Quick Start Program.<p>&gt; Failure to return the Developer Transition Kit may result in the suspension of Your Developer account or termination of Your Developer Agreement.<p>Admission to the program costs $500. What??? ...<p>Why did they not mention this anywhere but the terms of service?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;terms&#x2F;universal-app-quick-start-program&#x2F;Developer-Universal-App-Quick-Start-Program.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;terms&#x2F;universal-app-quick-start-...</a>
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gorgoiler将近 5 年前
One thing they’ve really nailed in recent years is <i>SF Mono</i>. macOS system type is very good.
WesleyLivesay将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m not entirely sold on the design, but at least it will make macOS look a bit more consistent, up until now there have been little pockets of &quot;old UX&quot; like Finder, Mail, etc. and &quot;new UX&quot; with the Notification Center, News, etc.
flareback将近 5 年前
This might be what pushes me to look into a linux laptop for work.
Kkoala将近 5 年前
Haven&#x27;t even upgraded to Catalina yet, because of the bugs...
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henriquez将近 5 年前
This site and its scroll-hijacking are unusably choppy on my 2018 Macbook Air. It seems like a total departure from Apple&#x27;s attention to detail, but maybe that&#x27;s a gentle reminder that Apple considers this computer to be EOL hardware.
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zamalek将近 5 年前
&gt; Safari is the best way to surf the web on all your Apple devices.<p>It&#x27;s also the only way to do that, other browser engines are deemed too impure to run on Apple hardware.<p>&gt; improves on industry-leading performance<p>According to these benchmarks[1], the only performance category where has a large &quot;lead&quot; is using about 50% more memory than the next competitor.<p>Why do Apple even bother writing fiction about Safari. It&#x27;s not like Apple users have any other choice.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;chrome-edge-firefox-opera-or-safari-which-browser-is-best" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;chrome-edge-firefox-opera-or-safa...</a>
quantummkv将近 5 年前
I just love the changes they did to the menubar. Adaptive background and extra padding on the menu items are both great changes<p>I don&#x27;t like the new dock design. Maybe they&#x27;ll change it back to the old dock if the feedback is vocal?
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read_if_gay_将近 5 年前
I know it&#x27;s just the look-and-feel, but to me it appears dumbed down in every single way. The uniform app shape, top bar icons, Control Center??? This does not look like a serious OS at all.
MattyMc将近 5 年前
Everything I don&#x27;t use on my Mac, improved.
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AJRF将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m glad I finally no longer need macOS to have a nice developer experience. Docker &amp; WSL2 are all I really need to do development these days. Back when I started using macOS, Windows seemed pretty dire for developers unless you were in the .NET and back then web-dev.<p>Around the time ruby on rails was becoming super-popular I noticed a lot of developers getting MacBooks through their workplace and that kind of caught on as it was easy to install all the cool new dev tools that came out after that like Node etc. Apple built up a nice cache with developers and from 2007-2018 the circles I ran in you would be hard pressed to find a developer using Windows.<p>All this time Microsoft were in the background diligently putting together a grand strategy for getting back developer mind-share, and they have done a spectacular job. VSCode + Visual Studio Community Edition, WSL &amp; WSL2, The new terminal experience, supporting Docker, buying GitHub, open sourcing .NET, improving Azure and just constantly tightening up Windows 10.<p>They&#x27;ve put their best foot forward going into the future and I am so glad because during the time all the cache Apple have built up has eroded. The keyboards, the kernel panics in Catalina, the MacBooks have been unspectacular, they just won&#x27;t fix bugs, Swift is unused outside of iOS dev, Catalinas false promise of &quot;just click a button to make your iOS app work on macOS&quot;, iOS has stagnated feature wise, Xcode is a malignant tumour that rears its ugly face when you try and use git for the first time, and they keep railroading down this road towards iOS-ification of all their platforms.<p>Developers wanted the iPad to become more like macOS - and with Big Sur it looks like they&#x27;ve pulled a reverse Uno card.
Lio将近 5 年前
I hope they add keyboard based window management.<p>It seems daft to me that you still can&#x27;t move windows around using keyboard shortcuts without third party software.
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dmix将近 5 年前
Happy to see them getting rid of the useless &#x27;notification center&#x27; drawer on the right side that I&#x27;ve never used and for some reason &#x27;Do Not Disturb&#x27; is hidden within it, assuming you know the right key+click combo.<p>Notifications are a huge part of any OS, they need to be treated as a first-class experience, not tucked away into a hidden section you never see unless you click on it.
gjsman-1000将近 5 年前
The word is out that this is macOS 11. Personally, I can&#x27;t figure out why they didn&#x27;t just drop the `10.` part and call it MacOS 16.
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quijoteuniv将近 5 年前
As many others I have been having a bad taste in my mouth with everything Apple related. I think I finally can point it out: Apple is only for rich users. There is terrible inequality in the earth and they build computers and developed OS for the rich. Not cool. Actually is exactly the opposite if why&#x2F;how they started with the Apple 1.
whoisjuan将近 5 年前
Did they fix Catalina yet? I’m still running Mojave just because all the terrible reviews Catalina gets.
Yhippa将近 5 年前
I was pretty pleased about the WWDC keynote except for when it came to macOS. My experience with updates and new features hasn&#x27;t been pleasant the past four or so years. I&#x27;m frightened to see what things this feature update will bring.
petarb将近 5 年前
The only thing that really stood out to me and that I’m excited about is, “AirPods automatic device switching”. Which IMO they should have had from day one when launching the AirPods.
seumars将近 5 年前
The amount of padding throughout the whole UI is worrying. For years I&#x27;ve used macOS on high contrast mode and invert colors for dark mode — very curious of how that will look.
Hamuko将近 5 年前
Are there any screenshots with reduced transparency? I&#x27;ve always disabled that on all of my systems since I don&#x27;t want to see stuff that&#x27;s behind my current window.
dtroit101将近 5 年前
Its clear the design direction is making mac a touch screen experience. they are totally taking the path microsoft took a decade ago. copycat designing
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twalla将近 5 年前
I upgraded to Catalina for work and have had an abysmal time with basically anything that is external to the macbook (monitors&#x2F;webcams&#x2F;hedphones) - if I had to estimate, I&#x27;d say I lose anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour a day just trying to get the goddamn machine to do things laptops have been perfectly capable of doing without issue for the past decade.
disposekinetics将近 5 年前
Most of these look like apps, not OS enhancements.
_bxg1将近 5 年前
I swear they&#x27;re just trying to see how far they can go with these names until people are unable to say them with a straight face
72deluxe将近 5 年前
Why are new features in apps mentioned in an OS update? It is a recent trend but I recall being able to upgrade to Office 2003 from 2000 without requiring an entire new OS.<p>These days, they talk about tiny features in one of the apps (eg. Messages) as if it’s a giant new feature of the OS. Application software is not system software!
darth_avocado将近 5 年前
Of all the new shiny things, the only useful one is the fact that the airpods can now switch between devices better.
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zakk将近 5 年前
I cannot see any difference besides the icons in the Dock looking like those of iPhone apps.
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ksec将近 5 年前
The biggest question I had when I was watching, Why did they not take the chance to rename is as macOS 11?<p>OSX has been through two transition. The NeXT team must be very proud of their foundation they built 2x years ago.
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dvtrn将近 5 年前
Cycling directions on Apple Maps has me more excited than it probably should. I like a LOT of what they’ve done to improve Maps since they entered the space and this was sorely missing for me
somewhereoutth将近 5 年前
During the Bad Times, when I was assigned to a MBP (2015 model - still the best apparently), all I ever wanted was the window buttons to be on the right, and a hash key.
floatingatoll将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m recording here that I think Finder as shown in Big Sur is actually a Catalyst port of Files.app, and that the next release of macOS will rename Finder to Files.
throw03172019将近 5 年前
I’m happy to see they didn’t have a huge slide of “1000s of new features”. I’d be happy with a better Catalina. I just switched after buying a new MacBook...
mmastrac将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been considering going back a version from Catalina. I&#x27;m not really holding out hope on this OSX release but we&#x27;ll see.
emidln将近 5 年前
This new theme looks like the Crystal from KDE 3.x.
achairapart将近 5 年前
Requirements: Mac Mini 2014 and later.<p>So, no upgrade for my Mac Mini late 2012.<p>F*ck you, Apple. Why on earth I need a less powerful machine to run your latest OS?
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ithrow将近 5 年前
Wow my 2013 macbook air is supported, nice.
dvfjsdhgfv将近 5 年前
I am a very happy user of Mojave, and Apple needs to make a a much bigger effort to convince me to upgrade.
paulchap将近 5 年前
The new Siri design reminds me of War of the Worlds... let&#x27;s welcome our alien overlord orbs!
Macha将近 5 年前
The integration of tall title bars with toolbars is really reminding me of Gnome 3 here.
schaefer将近 5 年前
interesting. I&#x27;d love to give the new macOS a try, but I don&#x27;t have any apple hardware. Does anyone know the process for downloading the macOS .iso so I can bring it up under VMWare?
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Rebelgecko将近 5 年前
This website makes me slightly nauseous when viewed on my macbook pro. I had to look at it with my phone to get rid of the jerky animations
beyondcompute将近 5 年前
I hope, they’ll fix the annoying problem in Safari that when pausing&#x2F;unpausing a Youtube video it skips half a second or so of audio.
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neximo64将近 5 年前
Is the beta of this coming out today?
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RocketSyntax将近 5 年前
brightness slider! nice! was downloading menu tray plugins for that
china将近 5 年前
OS 11!
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xrisk将近 5 年前
Oh god that new Mail app looks disgusting. Reminds me of a shitty Electron app, that kind of design.
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draw_down将近 5 年前
I usually end up turning off the motion and turning on increased contrast, reduced transparency etc. These things demo nicely but I didn&#x27;t like windows with transparency effects when Windows Vista did it and I feel the same way today. I care about what&#x27;s in the window not under it.<p>I do think the Safari updates look great, though. Webkit may have its governance issues and so forth, but Safari is really a wonderful app to use imo.