FFFG: Freedom from Facebook and Google

Is the Privacy Policy link broken? It just links to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.economicliberties.us" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.economicliberties.us</a><p>If you then navigate to the privacy policy on that site, it contains stuff like:<p>&quot;For example, we may use remarketing with Google Analytics or other remarketing tools to advertise online. This enables third-party vendors, including Google, to show our ads on sites across the Internet....&quot;

I hope this gains traction. Everyone is so busy in their survival journey, no one wants to take that big step. Google provides a comfort zone that we don&#x27;t wanna leave.

How do they expect others to get free from FB and Google when they themselves are on Facebook and Instagram?

Personal opinion here. If you trace the funding of anything on the internet, you usually get to the bottom of things. Here is an article that was published on WIRED that traces those roots. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;freedom-from-facebook-open-markets-institute&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;freedom-from-facebook-open-marke...</a><p>I think what the site says is basically true, but also I think it&#x27;s vaguely disingenuous.

The more I think about this, the less I lump Google and Facebook together when I talk about privacy. Maybe it&#x27;s just because I don&#x27;t use Facebook all that much, but I don&#x27;t consider them to be exactly equal, and suggesting that everyone not use both at the same time no longer works for me. I don&#x27;t disagree with some or even much of what&#x27;s on this site, but Google has built some amazing things that are widely used. I can&#x27;t think of much to say about Facebook in that way. Google has mail and docs and maps and all the chat things and analytics and so on. Really powerful impressive things that are really useful to many people, and certainly useful for Google in obvious ways. Facebook has... Facebook. Maybe I&#x27;m missing other things that it does?

How is giving you our data going to solve this?

quad9.net DNS servers are blocking freedomfromfacebookandgoogle.com domain... Interesting.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quad9.net&#x2F;result&#x2F;?url=freedomfromfacebookandgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quad9.net&#x2F;result&#x2F;?url=freedomfromfacebookandgoog...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com&#x2F;url&#x2F;freedomfromfacebookandgoogle.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com&#x2F;url&#x2F;freedomfromfacebook...</a><p>Might be a false positive probably because bad stuff came from the same subnet of the web server; might be just a byproduct of shared hosting

Did someone understand how they plan on doing so?<p>On first look it reminded me of conservative posts with a lot of outrage but no solution.

I don&#x27;t think the solution is to break them up, but instead to give people back control of their data

1) the chance that the US government is going to break up Google or Facebook is nil.<p>2) if you actually care about privacy, stop feeding those beast with your data. Self-host what you can, use alternative services for the rest.<p>(That said, I still use g-suite for email and shared docs).

&gt; promote dangerous content<p>I&#x27;m definitely biased here, but &quot;dangerous&quot; content does not exist -- only dangerous people. But then again, I get called a &quot;free speech extremist&quot; nowadays so what do I know?

And remember to follow us on Facebook and Instagram...

Is this trolling? They want to fight the two main abusers of personal data by asking me to give them my personal data on a plate?<p>Not having any real contact info is not encouraging either.

The easiest way to get freedom from facebook and google is to simply not use them yourself. It&#x27;s the best solution too. It doesn&#x27;t hurt anyone.<p>Compare this to the FFFG people advocating for using using government force to control others&#x27; behavior. This may solve the problems FFFG perceives but the &quot;solution&quot; does more damage (in terms of actually hurting people) than the problem.