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No, Safari 14 does not block Google Analytics

250 点作者 TomAnthony将近 5 年前

16 条评论

saagarjha将近 5 年前
&gt; I&#x27;m disappointed that the Privacy Report has such clumsy wording. To use terms like block, prevent, and tracker can lead to confusion, as the aftermath of WWDC showed, unless they are clearly defined in the report itself.<p>Yeah, this part really needs some cleaning up. It&#x27;s hard to explain exactly how ITP works, but it is important to note that Safari is not trying to block the tracker from loading but instead detect its ability to track you and take appropriate action.
masswerk将近 5 年前
This (the reports this article is answering to) is really a good example for the state of information and information spread on the Web. It does not just start with &quot;fake news&quot; and manipulative messages, it&#x27; really about this kind of reporting, which is setting the standards – and it&#x27;s mostly down-hill beyond those outlets. (This isn&#x27;t specific to any domain or topic. Journalistic standards are mostly down to where they have been in the 1920s, with most of the lessons learned forgotten.)
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TomAnthony将近 5 年前
The two articles that are discussed in this post have both been featured on HN in the last 24 hours [1][2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23629918" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23629918</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23612140" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23612140</a>
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risyachka将近 5 年前
It should block sensitive data, but obviously not full service. If they start blocking services who said yours won&#x27;t be next? It&#x27;s like google and blocking websites when they want. You just can&#x27;t do that because it&#x27;s wrong in so many ways.<p>You can&#x27;t make a great product without analytics (in vast majority of cases). It just should collect only required data for improving product, not marketing purposes.<p>If you start blocking all analytics then expect that you will have to use garbage products.
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geerlingguy将近 5 年前
Not much to contribute to the conversation (other than I would be happy if something like Pi Hole were built into my computer directly), but I find it interesting how frequently the top 5-10 stories on HN are basically top level responses or refutations to stories that were in the top 5-10 earlier in the day.<p>I have to admit that I ended up in this situation with one of my posts earlier this year—I just find it interesting that it seems to be happening more frequently lately.
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m463将近 5 年前
there is SO much stuff that safari doesn&#x27;t block.<p>Get firefox + umatrix and just see how much stuff goes on.
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shawkinaw将近 5 年前
Ironically: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;NFvkbxw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;NFvkbxw</a>
chickenlottie将近 5 年前
&gt; But for now, Google Analytics users don&#x27;t need to worry about Safari<p>That’s too bad. Wish apple had the guts to stand up and do the right thing for end-users.
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t0mas88将近 5 年前
The author is very naive on what Google Analytics does:<p>&gt; That doesn&#x27;t mean there might not be cookies set on google-analytics.com. I would imagine there are some that are used for debugging and monitoring purposes, for example.<p>Google links GA data to their DoubleClick and Adwords cookies. So it&#x27;s not just &quot;debugging&quot;, they&#x27;re collecting data and using it to create audiences in Adwords and the DoubleClick products. As a user it&#x27;s only available if you pay for Analytics 360, but Google gets the data either way even if you don&#x27;t get to use it.
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not2b将近 5 年前
This sounds similar to the EFF&#x27;s Privacy Badger, though someone who knows more of the details could give a better comparison than I could.
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aloukissas将近 5 年前
Bummer. It looks like I won&#x27;t be giving up Brave for a while, since it blocks GA and every other tracker.
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egypturnash将近 5 年前
Realistically, it probably should.
KorfmannArno将近 5 年前
&quot;uses on-device machine learning to identify trackers&quot;
stonogo将近 5 年前
Why not?
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tengbretson将近 5 年前
Not sure what to make of this article, but I&#x27;ve become very distrustful of articles with titles that take the form:<p>&quot;No, &lt;thing being said by a group I want to smear&gt; is not &lt;doing thing&gt;&quot;<p>At best it&#x27;s patronizing, at worst it&#x27;s used as cover for outright lying.
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chunsj将近 5 年前
Sad if this article says true. I want every tracking (including analytics things) to be disabled.