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Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

603 点作者 bscanlan将近 5 年前

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cbdumas将近 5 年前
I think the thing that &quot;coding without code&quot; fundamentally misses is that learning to actually write Python or Java or whatever is not the hard part of being productive in a business context. The hard part of creating useful software is that you have to understand a business process and its requirements so precisely that you can write it down for the computer to do.<p>I work with business stakeholders creating internal line of business apps a lot, and most of the time the requirements that they are able to articulate are some variation of vague, ill-specified, and flat out wrong. And it&#x27;s not their fault at all, it&#x27;s just that unless you&#x27;ve gone through the process of writing code it&#x27;s impossible to understand just how pedantic and explicit you need to be when building software versus, say, giving your human colleagues instructions.<p>And by the time you&#x27;ve got enough experience to be able to do that, tools like this just get in the way compared to writing some Python or SQL or C# or what have you.
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avolcano将近 5 年前
Looks like a competitor to Retool, interesting. The focus on data permissions, mobile support, and push notifications is really interesting because none of those features are ones that Retool focuses on, I believe - those features being front and center makes me think Amazon has looked at the competition and wants to focus on what they offer that others don&#x27;t, rather than just trying to be yet-another-tool in the space.<p>On the other hand, I absolutely loathe every single UI that has ever come out of AWS, and there is absolutely no chance I give the editor they&#x27;ve built here a shot without hearing lots of positive reactions first.<p>edit: actually going to pull back slightly on this comparison, since apparently Honeycomb is a little closer to something like Access, where there is a database _in_ the app, whereas Retool is built around connecting to an external data source (e.g. a SQL database). This surprised me because I assumed the entire reason you&#x27;d want an AWS version of this kind of tool is to integrate with the broader AWS ecosystem, like frictionless hookup to a DynamoDB or whatever. It may have this but just not spotlight it on the marketing pages?
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odshoifsdhfs将近 5 年前
I am working on a product in this space.<p>I think pretty much all the &#x27;no code&#x27; apps that are coming out have taken the wrong approach to it. No matter what, they are still &#x27;designed&#x27; by programmers with a programming mentality. This will lead to a sort of failure as people will feel limited when using it, and a &#x27;non programmer&#x27; mentality looks at this and goes wtf?<p>For example:<p>&gt; =Filter(Tasks,&quot;Tasks[Done]&lt;&gt;% ORDER BY Tasks[Due]&quot;,&quot;Yes&quot;)<p>I can understand this, 80% of folks here also, but do your mother or father? Or the small business owner down the street? Why is the word `Tasks` in 3 places? What is the &quot;Yes&quot;, and so on and on
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bram2w将近 5 年前
A while back Microsoft announced Microsoft Lists, which is a similar tool. Of course there are also existing tools like Airtable, Bubble, Mendix etc. All these tools are great, but they have some downsides in my opinion.<p>- If the product ever gets discontinued you might lose all your work.<p>- All these tools have limits regarding the amount of rows you can store.<p>- If your business depends on such a product and the pricing model changes, it might bankrupt you.<p>- You can&#x27;t create or download real plugin that integrate well if you are missing features.<p>- In most cases you can&#x27;t host it at your own servers.<p>- You might end up in a vendor lock-in.<p>These are some of the reasons why I started Baserow. It is an open source alternative to Airtable and in the far future also for tools like Bubble. While it is still in an early phase there is a test version at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;baserow.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;baserow.io</a> that everyone can try. In the coming weeks you can expect the open source release. Right now, I am finishing up the documentation, examples, plugin boilerplate and some final small changes. After that you can self host it without any limits, vendor lock-in or price changes.
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martythemaniak将近 5 年前
Funny tangent: I spent my internship (16 months between 3rd and 4th years) building Web 2.0 apps that were essentially implementing flows people were using on top of Word&#x2F;Excel+Email. It was good work and people were happy to have a nice dedicated web app instead of their clunky flows.<p>After about a year I noticed I was basically doing the same thing over and over again, so I decided to make an app that makes web apps! I could build any app in my app! Awesome! I spent 4th year building this awesome tool out - there was a document editor to create your forms, there was a Visio-like flow editor that could make decisions, take actions (email to that person, fill in that field, send to branch 2 if that checkbox was checked etc). After a few months I eagerly applied to YC (for summer 2007) and... nothing. Turns out I couldn&#x27;t actually describe wtf I was doing and pg would rather fund Heroku. Good call!<p>Anyway, there were other similar companies back then (Coghead) that went nowhere, but this concept keep on popping up and AirTable seems to have caught on. I guess someone at Amazon got tired of writing the same apps over and over again.
fomojola将近 5 年前
As an aside: I&#x27;ve been reading the AWS blog posts from Jeff Barr, but ignoring the Amazon Polly audio conversions. I actually listened to it today, and not only is it not terrible, but there&#x27;s a moment (around 1:05 in or so) where you can actually hear an inhalation! I know @jeffbarr is sometimes in these threads: is that a standard feature of AWS Polly, or is there some preprocessing that is generating SSML to control cadence, and if so how do we get our hands on THAT?
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jeffbarr将近 5 年前
More info at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;aws&#x2F;introducing-amazon-honeycode-build-web-mobile-apps-without-writing-code&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;aws&#x2F;introducing-amazon-honeycod...</a>
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codingdave将近 5 年前
The comments here strengthen exactly what I was thinking - this is yet another flavor of low-code app development. I see similarities to Salesforce, SharePoint, Lotus Notes, Airtable, and all the other startups on this path that don&#x27;t seem to realize that they are re-inventing modern versions of products that have been around since the 80s.<p>I spent years in my early career doing Lotus Notes Dev, then shutting down all those apps to go to Sharepoint, then shutting all those down to go to Salesforce. I walked away from that churn about a decade ago to just do SaaS, so I can&#x27;t truly speak to which of the newcomers has the most promise. But I have yet to see someone take on this market with full knowledge of what came before. I see potential for someone to really learn the in and outs of all such products over the last 30+ years, talk to the folks who have re-done their LOB apps in multiple products over that time, figure out what worked and build a true &quot;best-of-breed&quot; solution.<p>When someone does do that, I&#x27;m all in. Until then... the legacy apps I mentioned above are past their time, so pick your favorite flavor from all the new ones.
fosk将近 5 年前
Yahoo! Pipes tried this more than a decade ago, it&#x27;s interesting to see that the dream of &quot;apps my mom could build&quot; never dies.<p>Except most people want to be consumers of applications, not creators. And those who really want to be creators they learn how to code. So, like with Pipes, I am not really sure who is the target audience here.<p>Microsoft Popfly[1] was another one from back in the days.<p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Microsoft_Popfly" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Microsoft_Popfly</a>
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amrrs将近 5 年前
It looks like an Airtable replica to me. I might be wrong. But anyways, AWS getting into no-code (less-code) space is definitely going to impact a lot of small time players. AWS can complete the loop of development to Custom Deployment and It also has bunch of other things in its offerings that anyone would be happy to jump in. I&#x27;m just worried about how small-time No-Code players would survive going forward!
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ixtli将近 5 年前
I focused a bit on the history of computing when i was getting my CS degree and one of the things I&#x27;ve found super interesting is that for at least forty years (perhaps longer!) we&#x27;ve been at least academically interested in writing code &quot;without writing code&quot;. It never really works, however for a technical person it can be a great way to do, like, a sketch.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?q=without+writing+code" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?q=without+writing+code</a> is an interesting search
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ilaksh将近 5 年前
Its weird to me that people in here keep saying this looks like a competitor to [a single specific recent product X] when in fact this type of system has been an entire very popular product category for decades, and there are literally thousands of systems like it. Of course not all of those thousands of systems have become extremely popular or have the same scope or are contemporary.<p>For example: Access, Salesforce, WordPress, Tableau, 10000 other ones that never became really popular including the simple one I made ten years ago for a client.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Low-code_development_platform" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Low-code_development_platfor...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fourth-generation_programming_language" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Fourth-generation_programmin...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rapid_application_development" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rapid_application_developmen...</a>
careyrouse将近 5 年前
Co-Founder of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cloudternal.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cloudternal.com</a>. I&#x27;m really surprised they have a limit of 100k records on their tables. They will have the same issue that Airtable has, it&#x27;s just not suited for enterprise.<p>We believe there is still a gap in the &quot;database app for non-technical users&quot; space, so we created one that can handle millions of records, provides granular permissions down to the cell level and targets those creative (yet non-developer) users who end up pushing Excel beyond its usefulness.
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mg794613将近 5 年前
Ok honestly, my first thought was &quot;here we go again&quot;, BUT when you look at the @jeffbar provided, you can see, that yes, it is &quot;visual&quot; programming. It does however require a certain logical fluency. So I was wrong: It is _not_ the sales&#x2F;ceo dream of no longer having pesky engineers. It&#x27;s a proper gateway drug into programming.
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ZeroCool2u将近 5 年前
This looks very Tableau-esque. Another tool that takes a similar amount of work to learn compared to just learning programming in the first place, but with more vendor lock-in.
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pradn将近 5 年前
I don&#x27;t see Microsoft PowerApps mentioned in the comments. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;powerapps.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;powerapps.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;</a>) It&#x27;s one of the most significant recent entrants into the &quot;make an app&quot; space. It looks like Powerpoint and its coding is simple, with formulas like Excel. They sell licenses mainly to companies (creating internal app stores).
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viksit将近 5 年前
While I’m always skeptical of no code systems, this is the first one that seems to bring to the web what Visual Basic And Access did for Windows — VBscript, GUI driven layouts and connectors, and eventually the pipeline of programmers who went from VB to VC++ and Java.<p>Amazon also has the Microsoft—esque brand to really drive this into the Zeitgeist. IMO this might be the most game changing product they have launched recently given how much of a business impact it can have if distributed well. But therein also lies its biggest challenge - Amazon hasn’t historically been good at offering their services to the small businesses and consultants that could leverage this and build for the long tail. I wonder if they have a strategy for that.
pembrook将近 5 年前
From the looks of it, I’d say Amazon applied the same level of UX thinking into this as they applied to the AWS admin panel—which is to say, not enough.<p>I think using this in the real world will be about as easy as trying to buy the right phone charger on Amazon.com. People consistently underestimate how long it takes to learn complicated interfaces. At which point you might as well just learn python.<p>Take any advanced 3D modeling software for example. They are visual interfaces, not command line tools, but they might as well be considering the learning curve for the average user.<p>Having visual buttons doesn’t necessarily mean the process of building a 3D model (or a piece of software) is suddenly easy.
odiroot将近 5 年前
My first impression it&#x27;s like SaaS version of Microsoft Access GUI &quot;apps&quot; (or better said, semi-smart data entry forms).
andreshb将近 5 年前
Google would be smart to acquire Glide (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.glideapps.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.glideapps.com&#x2F;</a>)
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didip将近 5 年前
I love it for the purpose of building custom internal apps.<p>What would make it better is if:<p>* It’s open source, therefore installable on-prem and free from vendor lock-in.<p>* It has multiple swappable backends.<p>This thing and Bootstrap can replace a myriad of random in-house apps.
steveharman将近 5 年前
&quot;Honeycode – Build Web &amp; Mobile Apps Without Writing Code&quot;<p>For the sake of clarity, couldn&#x27;t they have come up with a name that didn&#x27;t include the word &quot;code&quot; ?
systematical将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s a spreadsheet and for when you need more (aka have to write some code), there are conditions, functions etc... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;honeycodecommunity.aws&#x2F;t&#x2F;honeycode-functions&#x2F;90" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;honeycodecommunity.aws&#x2F;t&#x2F;honeycode-functions&#x2F;90</a>
cosmotic将近 5 年前
Has programming &#x27;without writing code&#x27; ever panned out for anyone? 27th times the charm?
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riskable将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s responsive layout Hypercard. We&#x27;ve come full circle.<p>Maybe more like Filemaker Pro, circa 1990.
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IdiocyInAction将近 5 年前
Is this really no code? Those formulas they are using look quite a bit like code to me and GUI builders and templates are also nothing new.
t0mas88将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m very eager to see the Office 365 answer to this.<p>Microsoft is the one that needs to come up with a defensive play here, because this is an area where Excel is used in many businesses both small and large. I&#x27;m guessing Microsoft could do a better job than AWS integrating this with Excel and the Office 365 or MS Teams kind of UI to make it feel at home to their users.<p>On the other hand, AWS is ahead now and likely to start integrating this with the rest of their services if it takes off.<p>Either way, I think this can be an interesting development for a lot of half baked Excel processes that are everywhere in a typical company.
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dennisgorelik将近 5 年前
Ability to write code - is the main way to deal with application complexity.<p>If Amazon Honeycode does not have that critical feature (ability to write code) - then Amazon Honeycode is useless for creating any complex applications.
stoavio将近 5 年前
Too bad this is just another low-code CRUD offering for SMB&#x2F;Enterprise. This would have been so much more interesting if it allowed me to build an app for mobile and web with a custom domain, database modeling and storage, integration-eque triggers&#x2F;automations, all while keeping the underlying platform invisible to the user. Instead, I have to create a team on AWS and then invite members who then have to install the Honeycode player on their phones just to use my app.<p>In other words, Bubble needs more competition.
kirillzubovsky将近 5 年前
Using data tables to publish websites and apps is an interesting concept and having an in-house tool to produce most commonly requested ones makes total sense. Look at their templates: Inventory management, Team Tracking, Surveys, Reporting...etc. It makes sense.<p>One hard problem here though, by the looks of it, the tool is a database designed by engineers in response to a lengthy requirements document. It has no regard for user experience, and is one of those things you can use, only if you go through a 3 week training course.<p>This, imo, is where AWS could borrow from startup playbook, and instead of launching a spaceship, start instead with a paper airplane. Imagine if all you could do was to publish an inventory-management tool, that in one-click integrated with Amazon Pay and let the customers buy your products on a website?<p>Maybe Amazon is waiting for someone else to build this on top of their tools, and then make it available, but that poses a question why. Why would someone build on top of Honeycode, only to have Amazon eventually make it their own?<p>Interesting concept, but it&#x27;s got a long ways to go before anyone needs to be scared of what Amazon can do with this thing.
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runawaybottle将近 5 年前
I feel like many of these no-code tools are taking an all or nothing approach that will ultimately ossify into a very specific form.<p>However, if something like Honeycode also had a robust programming&#x2F;design API, you allow for tons of flexibility.<p>We <i>could</i> build a lot of it without code, and we <i>could</i> build a lot of it with code, and even better, we <i>could</i> code more things that can be built without code on an app by app basis.
deanCommie将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m always wary of these kinds of ideas, but honestly this looks pretty cool! I feel like the Press Release[1] actually quantifies why companies would want to use really well.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;press.aboutamazon.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;news-release-details&#x2F;aws-announces-amazon-honeycode" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;press.aboutamazon.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;news-release-det...</a>
darepublic将近 5 年前
What we need in this space is basically a UI where you build out what the presentation of the data looks like, what the permissions will be, and then an app gets generated for you automatically. You see the generated product and can then iterate but instead of with devs with tireless coding automatons
zubairq将近 5 年前
As a developer of an open source low code tool <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zubairq&#x2F;pilot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zubairq&#x2F;pilot</a> I think it is great that Amazon has entered this space. It really validates it for the mass market!
brainwipe将近 5 年前
These kinds of systems are all well and good if you have a person in your business with an analytical mind enough to pick it up and all your needs will fit the limits of the framework.<p>If your business domain has a feature that doesn&#x27;t fit then you have a difficult conversation with business people who won&#x27;t change their process to fit the platform and won&#x27;t pay to rebuild in a platform that does fit.<p>If you do manage to customise Honeycomb then you&#x27;re down a path of not really fitting into their model or having to upgrade on their product roadmap, not yours. I&#x27;ve seen SAP and Sharepoint &quot;installations&quot; that have been customised beyond all recognition.<p>Where this will fit nicely is for those internal apps where people are just using Excel or Access-like systems.
julianeon将近 5 年前
Are there any tools where you can design something in the UI, and then export it as actual React or JavaScript code, that you can then take and upload somewhere else?<p>Using low-code as a developer to iterate faster, and bang out lots of mini code apps quickly, is an interesting idea.
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grouseway将近 5 年前
Is this the first instance of Amazon offering an end-user (i.e. non developer) SaaS style product?
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topicseed将近 5 年前
This is a great way to prototype some simpler, mostly CRUD-like applications.<p>Definitely not future-proof as new business rules may be hard to add after a while, but by then the PoC has shown its value and ROI, and writing a real app might become a no-brainer anyway.
throwawaysea将近 5 年前
Things are broken when a well resourced large company can just steal someone else&#x27;s innovative idea (Airtable or others) and try to muscle them out using capital or a captive customer base. We need new anti trust laws.
Edmond将近 5 年前
As someone working in this space (codesolvent.com)...color me unimpressed so far.<p>Of course with AWS resources this can change with time. They did hype this some months back, I was expecting something a bit more impressive OOTB.
atulatul将近 5 年前
This is not related to main content of the post. But when I visit the page on a laptop, a sizeable portion is taken by the header- two or three layers in a div (lb-clearfix m-nav-double-row)- one of which is logo and create account ( blank space between logo and button), then the menu bar (blank space on the right below create account button), then the blog menu and search. In the main section body, a large portion on the right is white space. I have not done UI UX for a few years. Is this a good design? Are there reasons behind it? (views on mobile, etc)
syshum将近 5 年前
So far I have yet to see a real practical use for no code, they all seem great in the demo&#x27;s and get alot of hype but at the end of the day they take far more resources to maintain than a normal app and you end up having to have a programmer maintain after the end user quickly exceeds their ability to develop anything in a no code enviroment.<p>They either get Flustered and end up back in Excel, or the &quot;app&quot; gets handed off to IT &#x2F; Development who get frustrated and start a project to rewrite in a actual programming environment
dsbanaj将近 5 年前
This works only for the development of simple applications. If these no-code&#x2F;low-code platforms want to be considered for serious development, they need to decouple front-end and back-end tiers. A developer can build front-end in one no-code application (e.g Webflow), or Angular&#x2F;React for slick single-page applications; and the backend in another backend APIs specific no-code application. It will also enable the backend code to be called from native iOS and Android apps.
mortonpe将近 5 年前
Is Honeycode for everyone? Nope. Is it for some people? Sure. I’ve read through countless comments extolling the virtues of hiring python, java, or (insert your favorite language) developer. Let’s not lose sight of the customer. Some problems don’t need a perfect solutions. Some problems need a solution that is more concurrent than excel. Some problems just need a quick solution for now. You would be surprised to learn how many small business run in these imperfect solutions.
nyxtom将近 5 年前
Really wish Amazon would stop trying to eat all software startups.
chrisvalleybay将近 5 年前
My guess is they are doing that because one of AWSs biggest competitors will be Azure. The Enterprise will be riding on Azure+Power Apps with data sourced from Dynamics et. al.
rickyplouis将近 5 年前
These types of tools seem excellent for prototyping, but always fall short in addressing the real world issues of increasing scope and maintainability. No code web development (Wordpress, and Squarespace) has largely thrived due to blogs and largely static content, but I fail to see a similar use case in mobile app development. Maybe it&#x27;s a lack of imagination, but how valuable is a tool like this outside of todo lists, blogs, and other minor use cases?
ravivyas将近 5 年前
If you want a new perspective to the entire nocode space, remove the line &quot;building apps&quot; from any conversation or line of thought.<p>A spreadsheet to track a project need not be an app, the ability to temporarily give access to internal data to a non developer team (which become CSVs in email) is not an App.<p>It is this need of building a full solution which actually takes us away from the need of the users to the need to justify a resource for the thing.
outworlder将近 5 年前
Give me an intuitive, drag and drop enviroment where I can plan out my AWS deployments and tie resources together, and then write the cloudformation for me. Then I&#x27;ll be happy.<p>Also, this thing requires a different login even though I&#x27;m logged in to an AWS account with corporate SSO. Like quicksight and other tools do, and it&#x27;s just as infuriating. Just let me start using and bill for usage.
ivan_ah将近 5 年前
So, this is like Neonto Native Studio[1] but with less focus on looks and UI, and more on business worflows? I can see how this would be useful for many businesses with rag-tag processes, being able to combine on a easy-to-watch app that everyone has on their phone would be nice.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;neonto.com&#x2F;nativestudio" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;neonto.com&#x2F;nativestudio</a>
wsc981将近 5 年前
When looking at the website, I do think this could be a very decent product that could fulfil a business need.<p>From what I&#x27;ve seen many businesses use Excel sheets as a sort of apps. And this seems to be a mobile-compatible version of that idea. Of course it&#x27;ll be very limited, but for a certain niche of business apps it could be very useful as a replacement for Excel.
arkitaip将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s weird that Amazon releases this low-code tool and yet they can&#x27;t offer basic managed CMS&#x2F;Wordpress to millions of businesses out there. Their pricing could start at 20 USD per month and they could conquer the premium (wordpress) hosting market dominated by WP Engine, Kinsta, Media Temple, etc.
gator-io将近 5 年前
What&#x27;s the saying? Code-less environments make 90% of building an app simple, and 10% impossible.
annoyingnoob将近 5 年前
This looks like several Microsoft products stacked together, Sharepoint, Forms, Flow, Power Apps. I already do this with Microsoft and most of the time I don&#x27;t have all of the tools I need or I want to scream at the screen &quot;just show me the code!&quot;.
tyingq将近 5 年前
Google shut down their similar tool: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9682494?p=am_announcement&amp;rd=1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9682494?p=am_announcemen...</a>
ricardobeat将近 5 年前
There is Podio (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podio.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podio.com&#x2F;</a>) in this space which I think is really cool - or it was when I tried many years ago. Always wonder why it is not more popular.
kayman将近 5 年前
In my experience, when people build apps without having to write code, the first iteration is awesome. Get something working and shows great promise. But as complexity grows, the app ends up being a badly designed excel screen on the web.
alex_young将近 5 年前
Sounds a lot like Google App Maker, which is now scheduled for shutdown in January 2021.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;appmaker" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.google.com&#x2F;appmaker</a>
reilly3000将近 5 年前
I didn’t see much in the way of docs from the micro site at least. I’m wondering if there is IAM integration or the ability to call Lambdas. Those would be Airtable-killer features from where I sit.
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djohnston将近 5 年前
It seems like a start, but unless they&#x27;re supporting a community plugin ecosystem you&#x27;ll be at the mercy of what their team decides is worth integrating. Maybe it doesn&#x27;t matter.
psmithsfhn将近 5 年前
i was hoping for something at least semi-interesting. not so much. airtable, with a google aesthetic. eh.<p>i feel like Anvil is on the right, almost perfect, track -- except for their choice of Python over Javascript. They chose self.Python over javascript. ok. life is full of decisions. in their defense, callbackjavascript is...not so promising.<p>bubble went with..something. right idea. not the best execution. still, a step in the right direction.<p>saw a couple other tools out there that are trying to cross the chasm, but nothing as good as VB yet.
theptip将近 5 年前
So how do you unit &#x2F; integration test your code in this paradigm?<p>Or is this just for apps that would otherwise be run from a spreadsheet, and not displacing anything an engineer would build?
gdsdfe将近 5 年前
Interesting ... there&#x27;s a big push towards this &quot;no code, low code&quot; solutions lately in the industry, I wonder if this is just to sell more cloud services?
gonesilent将近 5 年前
Taking the thunder from the coupon code site Honey. Won&#x27;t be searching for Amazon honey or code and finding real honey. It like doing this with product names.
buboard将近 5 年前
and we&#x27;re back to MS Access ! about time, really
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brisance将近 5 年前
Seems like an AirTable&#x2F;PowerApps competitor, but an early version which means the polish isn&#x27;t there. Personally I prefer Coda.
harrisreynolds将近 5 年前
Not surprising to see Amazon get in the game with a #nocode tool. I will be interested to compare this with Webase [1] where we&#x27;ve focused first on custom views and the data model but have yet to support custom notifications (coming soon though!).<p>Although the world still needs lots of developers I do believe there is a BIG opportunity in the #nocode space.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.webase.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.webase.com</a>
Illniyar将近 5 年前
So this is Microsoft Access as a service?
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ezconnect将近 5 年前
Delphi was my first experience on apps without much coding, it helped me understand event driven programming.
ciguy将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m getting major Microsoft Access vibes from this. I guess we really have come full circle.
caetris1将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s cloud-native Visual Basic.
Aeolun将近 5 年前
What if I need more than 100k rows per table? Where is the unlimited (enterprise) plan?
hannasm将近 5 年前
And if if ever gets discontinued you lose everything you might have ever built forever.
ngcc_hk将近 5 年前
Not for Hongkonger though. Browser work but that is not the point. Is it just USA?
ngcc_hk将近 5 年前
Is it the fourth generation language once again? Quick Master from ICL anyone?
muddi900将近 5 年前
&gt;Sharing data across multiple users and multiple spreadsheets is difficult<p>=Importrange()<p>In google sheets.
MangoCoffee将近 5 年前
Am I correct to say that we have go down to this road before (no code app)?
kords将近 5 年前
A lot of these things can be done with SharePoint. Same thing, no code.
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pbreit将近 5 年前
Has anyone ever built a decent app with a tool like this?
pjmlp将近 5 年前
Looks quite basic versus alternatives like OutSystems.
jonplackett将近 5 年前
The downside... portability. Amazon now own your ass.
bencollier49将近 5 年前
The looks remarkably like an Access MDB application.
sciprojguy将近 5 年前
Great. Another ReactNative. Just what we need.
koliber将近 5 年前
Is this Amazon&#x27;s disruption of VisualBasic?
TrinaryWorksToo将近 5 年前
This is basically Microsoft Access forms.
pinewurst将近 5 年前
I see two+ entwined fundamental problems here:<p>1. Amazon isn&#x27;t especially known for high quality software. I picture lots of weird corner cases that won&#x27;t be tested or fixed in their frantic pursuit of new features (which is what&#x27;s rewarded, like Google if not more so).<p>2. Sky high Amazon attrition - especially in engineering!* - means that it&#x27;s always newbies who&#x27;ll be working on it, under high pressure.<p>I have trouble imagining a non-trivial corporate app with any kind of lifespan living on this thing.<p>*I live in Seattle so any Bezbots can save themselves the denial of harsh reality.
alexashka将近 5 年前
This is like a movie you know 2 minutes in, is going to be a complete disaster, give it another 5 minutes and finally turn it off. You stumble upon it&#x27;s imbd page some time later to discover it has a 3&#x2F;10 rating and nobody went to see it.<p>I don&#x27;t see a single innovative idea in this product and I see plenty that&#x27;s worse than the experience I had in Dreamweaver in year 2000.
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