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Ash HN: Is it worth investing in paid email services hey/superhuman?

13 点作者 harshamv22将近 5 年前
With a lot of hype around paid email services like hey.com and superhuman - Is it worth all the money or is it just a hype?

14 条评论

alexmingoia将近 5 年前
I think it’s mostly hype.<p>I was excited for Hey. I’m disappointed. The interface is colorful but disjointed. Way too much whitespace for my taste. I was hoping for a truly new take on email UI, like an IM-style interface. Hey feels like they took the traditional email UI and split it into different screens with lots of whitespace.<p>I don’t like the screening feature. In Fastmail, I have a separate folder for people not in my contacts. Anyone I respond to is automatically added to my contacts, so I don’t have to manually approve them. This functionality is available in any email client. The screening feature seems like more work, with pressure to look at them.<p>No custom domain is a dealbreaker. I’ve used the same email for almost 10 years. I’m honestly amazed so many techies are fine with the shared domain. Paying $999 for a two letter user on a shared domain? Nuts.<p>The newsletter feed view is nice. But I actually prefer my newsletter folder where I click each email, because I know which ones are unread. The feed view gives me a feeling that I don’t know what I missed.<p>After playing with it, I sold my invite for $175 within minutes on Twitter. FOMO is very powerful.
leokennis将近 5 年前
I’m a paid Fastmail user for these reasons:<p>* With my own domain, my e-mail address is my own property, which is good because I intend to keep it for another 70 years.<p>* With proper support for the good old boring standards (IMAP, WebDAV etc.) I can use my mail from almost wherever. I’m not at the mercy of Apple approving an app or not. I’m not depending on others for keeping my mail safe; I can back it up myself.<p>* As I’m paying for it, there’s way less incentive for Fastmail to invade my privacy than for example Google.<p>* As I’m paying for it, there’s way more incentive for Fastmail to improve my experience than for example Google.
stakkur将近 5 年前
Hey charges $349&#x2F;yr for three-letter user names; $999&#x2F;yr for two letters. Four letters and up: $99yr.<p>I watched a video walkthrough. I noticed four things:<p>1. The cost for potential benefit seems disproportionately high.<p>2. I can duplicate most of Hey&#x27;s features just configuring my own email.<p>3. The gimmicky UI seemed way too much for me.<p>4. Despite attempting to sign up 72 hours after the invites went out, every possible permutation of my first name, last name, and initials was already taken. I tried them all.<p>I&#x27;ve been using ProtonMail for a year or so now, and love it. I realize Hey is aiming at a &#x27;premium&#x27; market of users who don&#x27;t blink at prices, and I&#x27;m not in that market.<p>More simply, I haven&#x27;t lived in email for years, and keep moving away from email, not towards it.
dhruvkar将近 5 年前
Not sure about the hyped email providers (hey etc.), but I switched to Fastmail earlier this year.<p>Beyond the control part (own domain, not sharing data with Google etc.), I love how snappy it is. Gmail bloat didn&#x27;t bother me this much until I started using Fastmail (still Gsuite for work).<p>I&#x27;ve paid for a couple years already, just to lock myself down. I&#x27;m happy so far ~3 months in.
seanwilson将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been really put off with the number of messages I&#x27;ve seen in the last couple of weeks of the form &quot;Just used X for 2 hours and I&#x27;m switching now! Life is so much better!&quot; and &quot;My new email address is bob@X.com. Amazing!&quot; (wait until they find out you can buy a custom domain). Are these for real?<p>Surely it requires you to have received and sent some number of emails over several days first? I don&#x27;t see how you can evaluate a new workflow that quick unless the workflow is obviously transformational.<p>I don&#x27;t have a lot of issues with gmail to be honest. I use archive and snooze to keep at inbox zero most days, get minimal spam, and only get a handful of emails each week I need to reply to. Maybe I don&#x27;t get enough emails but I do what I can to avoid getting emails too.
BjoernKW将近 5 年前
It depends on your use case and usage patterns.<p>I like Basecamp’s opinionated approach and what they’ve done with Hey.com<p>As much as I’d like to use it as my primary email tool I depend on G Suite and Gmail for my business because of the integration and automation those tools afford me.
sky_rw将近 5 年前
Superhuman paying customer here. For starters, they are not equivalent products because Hey.com is client + server. Superhuman is an app that sits on top of an existing Gmail account.<p>I have no problem paying for Superhuman. I use it exclusively for my business email and the way I see it, if improving my email management lands me one single customer it more than pays for itself.<p>As far as paying in general, I enjoy the feeling that this product won&#x27;t die off in the same way so many clients have before. Hopefully they are able to build a sustainable business and support a reliable product. Superhuman also has outstanding customer support.
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brudgers将近 5 年前
Unless it’s making you money, it’s an expense not an investment. Unless you own the domain, your address is not portable.<p>Everything else in the equation varies case by case.
passwordguesser将近 5 年前
I pay for my email services and receive a VPN service for doing so as well being able to create up to 5 email accounts. Paid email has its benefits for example, the actual email I use is not at all similar to the login email therefore there’s improved security in some paid emails.
noodlesUK将近 5 年前
I think it’s worth paying to have email on a domain you control. I’m not sure any of the hype email services like hey or superhuman get you that much you won’t get with any other email provider.
hkarthik将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m 16 years into using gmail, so the thought of converting to a new email address feels harder than trying to change my social security number right now.<p>Anyone done this successfully?
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Nextgrid将近 5 年前
The hyped services that you mention, probably not.<p>However, investing into an Office 365, FastMail or even G-Suite subscription and a domain is absolutely worth it.
topspeed11将近 5 年前
Yes paid emails have high quality and it converts well. Unlike free.
thirtythree将近 5 年前
I am going to pay for hey. I like the concept and it is one less thing on Google
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