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Linear – A fast issue tracker

491 点作者 tommoor将近 5 年前

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tyre将近 5 年前
We&#x27;ve been using Linear for a couple months. It&#x27;s kind of like Superhuman in that the primary benefit is hotkeys. Otherwise it is an issue tracker.<p>I think the reason we see a steady stream of new issue trackers is that teams are trying to fix with software what are people problems.<p>New issue trackers feel faster for the same reason switching browsers tends to feel faster—you&#x27;re getting rid of all of the crap you piled up in the old one. Don&#x27;t migrate your backlog, start with only a couple engineers in a new issue tracker, and suddenly, wow!, this new tool is so much better!<p>But I don&#x27;t think it really solves the problem. For most organizations, tracking tickets is a solved (by many products) problem. Starting with a new tool has the appearance of making things better, but leads to the same place. The problem is not the tool, it&#x27;s the structure of the organization.
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enra将近 5 年前
Founder here. Here to answer any questions you might have.<p>We built Linear as we’re frustrated the practices and the available tools when it came to managing software projects.<p>On the product, we especially tackled the performance problem. Everything is synced to the client and we sync just delta packages between the cloud and client as changes happen. This way all actions a happen instantly and navigating around the app is <i>really</i> fast. And the app works offline too.<p>We also streamlined the UI and UX, overall we are rethinking what comes after agile for software development. I think many teams looking for something simple to run their teams.<p>Our announcement post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;linear-app&#x2F;practices-for-building-linear-is-now-open-for-all-234f7cf9a3d0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;linear-app&#x2F;practices-for-building-linear-...</a>
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dsr_将近 5 年前
Using any ticket&#x2F;bug&#x2F;issue tracker is better than not using one.<p>That said, much of the information you put in one of these is really sensitive, perhaps even confidential and quite often embarrassing if leaked.<p>So. Privacy policy? Extremely generic, and doesn&#x27;t guarantee you anything.<p>Terms of Service?<p>&quot;We take no responsibility and assume no liability for Content you or any third party posts on or through Service. However, by posting Content using Service you grant us the right and license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content on and through Service. You agree that this license includes the right for us to make your Content available to other users of Service, who may also use your Content subject to these Terms.&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t know about you, but I don&#x27;t really want the discussion of security-critical bugs in my product to be publicly reproduced and made available to other customers.<p>Maybe fix this, Linear?
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_jal将近 5 年前
I was ruined for bug trackers by RT (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bestpractical.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bestpractical.com</a> ). Driving issue tracking from email is brilliant - I only had to look at the application for reference or planning, all the normal back and forth happens from email. (Optionally - you can of course type in a web browser if you prefer.)<p>Jira&#x27;s email behavior is pointless to the point of being counterproductive, and I disabled it. I have to look at it constantly anyway, why would I want it peeing in my inbox, too?<p>Of course, those who hate email are would react to it differently.
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plainOldText将近 5 年前
I haven’t tried Linear, but while browsing the site I couldn’t help but notice what an exquisite job the designer did with the Linear site.<p>It’s consistent, lightweight, it has pleasant proportions, a nice color theme, etc. It’s also sprinkled with all kinds of little details that show care, attention and craftsmanship.<p>I wish I’d see more sites like this.
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amelius将近 5 年前
They should open up their own issue tracker for public viewing, so that (1) you see how many issues they have, and (2) you get a feel for what the end-user sees when they use the tool.
ocdtrekkie将近 5 年前
I have a rough time understanding why I&#x27;d pick this over the issue tracker integrated with my source control. I get that it can sync with GitHub or GitLab (Does it sync the issue text&#x2F;comments such that GitHub users can comment on the issues? Are the issues on both sides using the same numbering? In this case, is Linear just a GitHub issues client?) but I imagine I am losing out on any given feature that my source control adds for issue integration, at least until Linear also does it.<p>Basically, I feel like you need to sell me a lot more on why I should use Linear over GitHub Issues, and how the benefits outweigh the added complexity of going two places.
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Hnrobert42将近 5 年前
Jira is a hot circle of garbage. I am going to check out Linear for my team because I can’t stand how slowly Jira pages load and how long it takes Atlassian to address documented bugs.
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dylanpyle将近 5 年前
We took a bet on Linear fairly early on (moved over last August!) and have been consistently impressed. I&#x27;ve used many different tools in the past (Pivotal Tracker, Jira, Trello, Asana, Github...) and Linear has by far the most polished, productive interface of the bunch.<p>We have fairly strong opinions about our workflow (using points, planning sprints, etc) and have found that even in the cases where Linear isn&#x27;t as opinionated as we are, or doesn&#x27;t have granular tools&#x2F;configuration to manage things, we can get most of the benefits we need by using tags and other features appropriately. I was a die-hard Pivotal Tracker user before this, and it&#x27;s very hard to imagine going back now.<p>Super impressive product and team, highly recommended!
ggambetta将近 5 年前
What a strange state of affairs that in 2020 an USP for an issue tracker is that it is fast. An <i>issue tracker.</i> How did we get here?
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voz_将近 5 年前
One of the founders of this thing was my first EM at Uber. He was (and is) a very strong engineer, and a great overall guy. Huge kudos, and I wish him the best success. If you wanna put your money in a company started by decidedly not-scumbags, this is the place.
amelius将近 5 年前
Reminds me of Joel Spolsky and his FogBugz tool (and who later started StackOverflow &amp; co).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2000&#x2F;11&#x2F;08&#x2F;painless-bug-tracking&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2000&#x2F;11&#x2F;08&#x2F;painless-bug-track...</a><p>But cool as it looks, I&#x27;m personally reluctant about replacing my locally hosted open source developer tools by pay-per-month SaaS solutions which are closed-source and handle possibly sensitive data of me and my customers.
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rudolph9将近 5 年前
I want issue tracking where everything thing is saved to a hit repository.<p>I’ve started using a crude version of this where each open issue is a directory, there is README.md for each issue and supporting files go in the same directory and get relatively linked to in the readme. When an issue is closed you delete the directory. When you need to reopen an issue you revert the commit that deleted the directory.<p>It’s all manual and no UI and works for my personal stuff but it strikes me as odd that there is no widely used issue tracking with a nice UI that tracks all the data in git and git-large-file-store
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tadruj将近 5 年前
This is a `vi` of issue trackers. It&#x27;s the kind of software which, after you use it, you desire whole web would use the same design philosophy.
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knes将近 5 年前
been using Linear for 3 months at my new company.<p>Honestly, I don&#x27;t really see the value over any other tools (Jira, Trello, Asana, Monday, etc).<p>Sure they have a command palette and the UI is pretty fast (like Trello) which is nice but you still need too many clicks&#x2F;keyboard shortcuts for simple tasks like adding 2+ issues.<p>Their Slack integration is also non existent. You can&#x27;t create issues based on a conversation for example.<p>So overall, I will keep using it but will probably not evangelized it or bring it with me to another company.
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bachmeier将近 5 年前
What&#x27;s the purpose of a restricted &quot;free&quot; plan with a max of 250 issues? There are enough actually free options out there that the free plan doesn&#x27;t bring anything to the table. Why wouldn&#x27;t you do a free trial of an unrestricted plan instead? The obvious thing that stands out is that you&#x27;d have no way to test their support before paying.
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gorgoiler将近 5 年前
It’s good to see the command palette pattern gain adoption. I’ve introduced a few people now to command-space in macOS and they’ve all loved it. Why hunt for an icon when you can just type “TextEdit”?<p>Maybe a future macOS will allow apps to hook into the spotlight search bar and present their <i>command palettes</i> there, in a standard way?
ulisesrmzroche将近 5 年前
I don’t see the value add. I work at a place with 1000+people using Jira. No one complains about the performance.<p>There’s really nothing here I can make a case to the managers about. It does look nice but thats not enough.<p>I think there’s room for an opinionated issue tracker, Jira is like everything and the kitchen sink and people make their own rules.
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madrox将近 5 年前
This may be a minority opinion, but I&#x27;m disappointed that so many core workflow apps like ticketing still living in the browser. Any serious programmer would scoff at the idea at their main IDE being within a browser, so why is it acceptable for a ticketing system, which is nearly as core to our workflows?
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saagarjha将近 5 年前
Let me ask the inevitable question: Electron?
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wufufufu将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m interested in a native (MacOS optimized) issue tracker client and then a dictation software that is adept at understanding software terms. I&#x27;ve watched my doctor friend dictate to his laptop without a microphone and it took down notes perfectly.
PStamatiou将近 5 年前
Not the intended purpose but I&#x27;ve been using Linear for a personal project of mine (stocks-related iOS app to learn iOS dev) and it&#x27;s been so much fun to use compare to the JIRA I use at work all day.
olingern将近 5 年前
It would be neat to have Github, Gitlab, etc. mirrored because I&#x27;ve always seen issue software that doesn&#x27;t directly integrate with repositories to be more work to manage than not.<p>I make heavy use of the `fixes #` feature on Github to auto-close issues. This adds up over one or two years when you&#x27;re closing multiple issues per week.
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_jordan将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been playing around with this casually for a few weeks and am quite impressed. It&#x27;s a definite improvement over Jira in simplicity and performance, but is missing quite a few features still. But still, it&#x27;s my preference. I have started to appreciate light, fast, minimalist interfaces much more over time.
sangupta将近 5 年前
I am usually keen to try new tools. However, with the limit of 250 active issues and hassles to archive old ones, not many open source projects will be able to use it. On the other hand, I can&#x27;t recommend it in my BU&#x2F;company unless I have evaluated it for full extent.<p>Consider, providing a free-tier for open source projects.
Lightbody将近 5 年前
We started using Linear a couple weeks ago and overall we&#x27;re very happy.<p>There is no doubt that @tyre&#x27;s points about a &quot;reset&quot; being part of the reason folks like new issue trackers.<p>But setting aside the &quot;reset&quot; we got (our backlog from other tools wasn&#x27;t _that_ big), we really enjoyed the speed and accessibility (ex: desktop app, keyboard shortcuts, etc).<p>I recommend folks give it a try.<p>My only feedback to the Linear team is: I get notifications for the desktop app to upgrade too often. I love rapid iteration, but it feels like it&#x27;s daily.<p>Because I get it so often, it&#x27;s caused me to start to not pay attention to the &quot;red dot&quot;, which my brain has convinced itself is &quot;update ready&quot; and not &quot;unread items in inbox&quot;, which it really is.<p>Hopefully you can find a happy balance or some other UX tricks to help me out here. Thanks!
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fizixer将近 5 年前
Oh I&#x27;m creating an even better, faster issue tracker. I&#x27;m naming it &#x27;deep learning&#x27;.
k_bx将近 5 年前
I&#x27;d like to mention one less orthodox solution to a problem of managing issues: a little tool called github-agent I wrote <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;k-bx&#x2F;github-agent" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;k-bx&#x2F;github-agent</a><p>It lets you sync your issues as a git directory of markdown files which you can edit with your favorite Emacs&#x2F;Vim&#x2F;Whatever editor. This way it&#x27;s possible to not get yourself into a &quot;tracker hell&quot;, having big and very verbose issues with checklists in them.<p>There are many possible improvements to the tool, it&#x27;s pretty much MVP and PRs are welcome, but it&#x27;s already been an amazing helper, esp for my teams that work remotely.
Andrew_nenakhov将近 5 年前
All issue trackers can be placed on a spectrum: one end is occupied by very fast and very simple apps, another by complex and flexible ones.<p>Fast ones win in the ease of creation of an issue (just type and hit enter), and generally feel more sexy and attractive, but complex ones can be set up to the exact workflow you need.<p>For example, Google tasks or now-dead service do.com by Salesforce clearly belong to &#x27;easy&#x27; end, and software like Redmine to &#x27;complex&#x27; (though it can be made to look rather attractive by the use of skins).<p>For us, we&#x27;re sticking to redmine, because it is good and very extendable by the use of plugins. We&#x27;ve found that ease of use does not cover for the reduced flexibility.
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robjbye将近 5 年前
We&#x27;ve been trialling Linear on one of our project teams for the last 3 months (used to use Jira), and it&#x27;s sped up workflows for product managers drastically. Simple tasks like duplicating and reassigning tickets can take 75% less time.<p>Day to day I&#x27;ve found myself going from 2+ hours in Jira a day, to &lt;1hr in Linear a day. This makes a huge difference as product management shouldn&#x27;t be about managing tickets, it should be able launching features the better your product and help users.<p>Plus I actually love jumping into Linear to catch up on things, whereas Jira genuinely Brough anxiety.<p>Happy to answer any questions people may have.
ussrlongbow将近 5 年前
No self-hosted option? Passing this one.
stunt将近 5 年前
Atlassian seems to be one of the slowest software companies. They haven&#x27;t done much to improve their products in all these years.<p>Everything they have is ready to be overtaken by a disruptive product.
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whichquestion将近 5 年前
I found the app to be gorgeous and well designed. Very smooth. I would go as far as considering this over JIRA.<p>Only thing I’m not really keen on is the sign in with the google account. I’d rather pay to have an account than have to sign up with google.<p>Sign in with regular email doesn’t really work either, because it never gives you a way to create a password, it just sends a code to your email. If I want to login from a different computer with same email, I can’t unless I sign in with a google account.
qwerty456127将近 5 年前
All I ever wanted of an issue tracker is a HN-like comments tree.
jayp将近 5 年前
Been using Linear everyday for the past few months and love it.<p>For many that may find it interesting, here is a recent conversation I had with Linear co-founder Tuomas Artman about how they iterated by listening to their users: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heraldhq.com&#x2F;userstand&#x2F;how-linear-leverages-their-user-community-to-dig-into-customer-problems" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heraldhq.com&#x2F;userstand&#x2F;how-linear-leverages-thei...</a>
tylergetsay将近 5 年前
We&#x27;ve been a paying customer for a month and enjoy linear a lot.<p>I tried a ton of other trackers, my second favorite being Notion. Reason we left Notion was lack of an API.<p>Even though it lacks some basic features, a graphQL API that means I&#x27;ll never be missing an endpoint and webhooks keep me happy.<p>For example, I have a step in CI to move issues from staged to deployed. Also then moves associated hubspot to tickets to a queue for CS to inform the customer.
cw将近 5 年前
Linear brings me joy every day.
thinkmassive将近 5 年前
Wow, multiple mentions of open source in the comments, even a mention of Trac, but no mentions of Phabricator yet? It&#x27;s the most modern and effective open source issue tracker I&#x27;ve seen so far, definitely worth a look if you value FOSS.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phacility.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phacility.com&#x2F;</a>
neop1x将近 5 年前
Product name Linear doesn&#x27;t seem to be the best choice to me. Google search (correctly) gives linear algebra results.
iamjaredwalters将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been interested in using Linear but I don&#x27;t understand the workflow. Do branches have to use the linear issue slug, for example? Is that the keystone of the workflow? I&#x27;ve looked all over for examples of usage to no avail and the Linear website mentions nothing in the way of docs or onboarding.
the_arun将近 5 年前
I still miss Bugzilla - which was relatively fast. Thought modern js libraries make parallel API calls and make it look fast. But JIRA is too slow and becomes slower with number of tickets and users. Any day, I would prefer speed over nice user interface.
stunt将近 5 年前
I saw many successful examples of teams with super simple boards. Most of them only with built-in Gitlab&#x2F;Github issue trackers.<p>When the tooling provides too many options, you will start adding complexity to your workflow without considering real benefits.
hknd将近 5 年前
Finally a simple issue tracker - I was waiting for something like this for ages.
jbaber将近 5 年前
Still alpha, but I&#x27;ve been enjoying [git-bug](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MichaelMure&#x2F;git-bug" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MichaelMure&#x2F;git-bug</a>).
einpoklum将近 5 年前
It may be fast, but it&#x27;s not free software. Too bad.<p>... also, the UI seems to be a lot of white-space and faded colors. That&#x27;s another negative sign for me.
ing33k将近 5 年前
I just signed up and started using it. Cannot really give a review about it,but the UI is really good. Would like to know the tech stack behind it.
atombender将近 5 年前
25+ years of working in software engineering has taught me that &quot;issue tracker&quot; presents the wrong metaphor. This product looks like it&#x27;s not providing any novel improvements on what has failed for everyone so far, other than a slightly shinier surface.<p>Clearly there&#x27;s utility to issue tracking: Projects have problems of various kinds (bugs, mostly) that need to be fixed. Sometimes these are conflated with tasks, which are things that people need to do, but those are not the same. Sometimes these are also conflated with &quot;support tickets&quot; from consumers&#x2F;customers.<p>The problem isn&#x27;t having a &quot;database of problems&quot;. Clearly that&#x27;s useful: If I use a program, and it doesn&#x27;t work in some way, being able to look this information up somewhere is useful, both as a way to confirm that the problem exists for other people, and to follow up on it, and as a way to potentially find an existing solution.<p>But issue trackers aren&#x27;t mostly used for that. They&#x27;re used to drive development, and in that sense, this model doesn&#x27;t accurately represent the fundamental relationships and power dynamics between people and technology. Issue trackers rot and become unusable piles of cruft very quickly because they&#x27;re just &quot;databases&quot;, and not a process. Databases must be maintained; they model real-life information that becomes out of date almost the moment it&#x27;s entered. Of course, an organization <i>can</i> use issue trackers successfully, but it requires a very rigid process that constantly follows up, and you end up with a top-heavy social process that mostly (ab)uses a database to keep notes about progress.<p>I&#x27;m a fan of action-oriented task management, based on the principle that if something isn&#x27;t painful (poses a roadblock to development, for example) or risky (may cause a customer to leave, for example), then it&#x27;s not worth entering into a centralized database. Project-level task management should be oriented around stakeholders: Whoever an issue is important to should own it and keep it alive.<p>For example, a project manager can keep a spreadsheet or whatever of what people are working on, and their job is assigning work and making sure things get done, that the work follows some development timeline, and that the upstream stakeholders are satisfied. Nobody downstream needs to see this spreadsheet, but the project manager may need to present it upstream. By doing this, you&#x27;re essentially rate-limiting your issue&#x2F;task flow, and ensuring that someone keeps what&#x27;s important alive. If something slips through the cracks and nobody complains, it wasn&#x27;t important enough to remember.<p>A simple document (Google Docs, a wiki, markdown files on Github, etc.) of &quot;known issues&quot; can be used by developers and certain customers&#x2F;clients to understand deficiencies. It&#x27;s going to grow stale fast anyway, so prepare for it. Keep it loose and let it rot, and use it as a springboard for ideas in the future (if you bother to ever look at it again). Whenever possible, describe known issues in code so that you can look for TODO comments; that way, they won&#x27;t go out of sync so easily.<p>For <i>clients</i> of your project&#x2F;product, have a support channel (&quot;ticket system&quot;). This is not a database, but a communication tool. Open tickets mean there&#x27;s a stakeholder waiting at the other end that may not be serviced fully (even if your project doesn&#x27;t have a formal SLA). Making it public allows people to discover existing problems and find solutions to problems people had in the past. Support channels shouldn&#x27;t just be for external clients. I think a lot of companies could improve their communications by having internal ones, too.<p>I think a lot of people understand this, yet it feels liberating to put their backlog in a database, because it <i>seems</i> like something that&#x27;s ideal for a database. Developers love building task systems; it&#x27;s such a simple data model that seems to neatly organize real-life concerns. But it&#x27;s also a model that doesn&#x27;t scale to more than a handful of issues, and doesn&#x27;t really match how people work and communicate.<p>At the same time, it may feel <i>risky</i> to forego an issue tracker. But there are plenty of large projects that are managed without one. PostgreSQL, for example, doesn&#x27;t have an issue tracker, and bugs are managed entirely through mailing list discussions, and they&#x27;re doing great.
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NetOpWibby将近 5 年前
I have an invite to this finally but haven’t been able to delve into it much. Will do so this week.
tomaskafka将近 5 年前
App? Okay ... wait, does that mean no tabs (= instantly accessible working set)? Nononononono! :)
xwdv将近 5 年前
Is there any CLI interface?
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smcleod将近 5 年前
Just seems to load an empty blank black page in Safari on iOS 13.5.1.
pandesal将近 5 年前
Wow. What a very diverse set of founders
beshrkayali将近 5 年前
Looks a bit broken on Firefox.
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imdsm将近 5 年前
Tip: show a demo or screenshots. I&#x27;m busy. I looked for 3 seconds and bounced.
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njn将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s closed source. [Trac](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trac.edgewall.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trac.edgewall.org&#x2F;</a>) is better.
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