TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

“LibreOffice is at serious risk”

126 点作者 rsecora将近 5 年前

17 条评论

shp0ngle将近 5 年前
This is hard to read without context.<p>From I can gather - there is a company, called “Collabora”, that sells LibreOffice consultancy and LibreOffice “online” installations. This company now contributes majority of development to LibreOffice. And lead the development of “LibreOffice Online”, maybe?<p>And from what I can get, their business is not doing that well.<p>This e-mail is written by someone from that company.
评论 #23796022 未加载
评论 #23796025 未加载
评论 #23796392 未加载
ptx将近 5 年前
The post says that LibreOffice, the version you would download from libreoffice.org, is &quot;un-supported&quot; and &quot;not suitable for deployment in an enterprise&quot; and that some other commercial version is &quot;more authentic and genuine&quot;.<p>Why does the LibreOffice project then allegedly produce an unsupported, non-genuine, unauthentic and unsuitable piece of software? They seem to be doing a good job in most respects, so how and why are they supposedly failing to produce usable releases? Debian&#x27;s version seems fine, so perhaps Debian is adding some of this mysterious authenticity?
评论 #23796329 未加载
评论 #23796183 未加载
danpalmer将近 5 年前
As much as I’d love free software to be popular for being free, that’s never been the case and is increasingly unlikely to ever become the case.<p>Free software needs to learn to compete on features if it’s going to have the mainstream adoption necessary to survive.<p>This worked in engineering tools, Nginx and Apache are the most popular web servers in their category, Postgres and MySQL have enormous support, and so on.<p>I wonder why these are really so different? Most devs don’t care that much about the freedom I don’t think. Maybe there’s something the free software movement could learn from what engineering products are doing and apply it to consumer products?
评论 #23795694 未加载
评论 #23795705 未加载
评论 #23795871 未加载
评论 #23796412 未加载
评论 #23795829 未加载
badsectoracula将近 5 年前
IMO this is the most interesting part:<p>&gt; Collabora - despite C&#x27;bra still putting a lot of work into LibreOffice Desktop, having an outstanding support capability, doing lots of marketing, being the largest code contributor to LibreOffice, and having lots of existing happy customers &#x2F; references for desktop LibreOffice, ... etc. etc.<p>&gt;<p>&gt; We have not had -one- -single- -new- Collabora <i>Office</i> customer since 2018 - zero.<p>&gt;<p>&gt; =&gt; so it makes no economic sense at all to invest in -Desktop- Libreoffice you will never see a return.<p>&gt;<p>&gt; That is manageable - we are investing heavily in creating Online and that is going well, and it funds our work on LibreOffice.
MattGaiser将近 5 年前
Does anyone here work an environment where LibreOffice is sufficient?<p>It replaces Word well, but for Excel, there is just too much of a shift for me.<p>It is a great product, but given the market saturation of Office, I am not sure there is really a place for it in the market spectrum.
评论 #23795649 未加载
评论 #23795954 未加载
评论 #23796027 未加载
评论 #23795854 未加载
评论 #23795535 未加载
评论 #23796081 未加载
评论 #23796059 未加载
评论 #23796405 未加载
评论 #23795930 未加载
评论 #23796295 未加载
评论 #23795607 未加载
评论 #23796102 未加载
评论 #23802114 未加载
评论 #23796050 未加载
评论 #23874796 未加载
评论 #23795472 未加载
cxr将近 5 年前
The LibreOffice project&#x27;s imprimatur should be to stop existing. This isn&#x27;t facetious or snark. Make it a long-term goal—let&#x27;s say 15 years.<p>The editing paradigm perpetuated by the legacy of MS Office is a dead end. The web has its shortcomings, so it&#x27;s easy to see why people opt for MS Office-based workflows, but the end goal should be to wean businesses off contemporary word processors and raise a generation of kids who aren&#x27;t taught to write essays in Microsoft Word or any other office suite that resembles the ones we see today. A standardized &quot;Markdown for the Web&quot; (or AsciiDoc) with native browser support would be a good 80&#x2F;20 start and would move things out of weird proprietary office formats and towards plain text. Users themselves need not know the underlying file format is based on plain text, just like most don&#x27;t know that HTML is plain text—because they usually aren&#x27;t even aware of HTML in the first place. (Besides word processing, spreadsheets are a whole other larger problem that can be handled once there&#x27;s traction on this front.)<p>Right now LibreOffice is aligned against this goal as a result of perverse incentives to continue perpetuating the MS Office model of document creation, editing, and (let&#x27;s face it: email-based) distribution.<p>The failure of standards bodies and browser developers to address the real needs of MS Office customers should not be discounted. Heck, even EPUB which is largely (X)HTML isn&#x27;t even really Web-native, and that&#x27;s a total failure on the part of browser makers.<p>It might be prudent for the commercial companies associated with LibreOffice to stop thinking of themselves as vendors of an MS Office alternative and start thinking of themselves as a group who can see where the puck should be, and then move both the Web and businesses+classrooms there, too—and capitalize on being the first mover.<p>NB: Re-inventing the office suite as a web app (à la Google Docs) is <i>not</i> the kind of thing I&#x27;m talking about.
评论 #23797667 未加载
评论 #23796441 未加载
评论 #23834100 未加载
评论 #23801139 未加载
thrownaway954将近 5 年前
i used to use LibreOffice back in the day when MSOffice was too expensive. nowadays i just use google docs and google sheets. i&#x27;m sure 90% of people out there use a browser&#x2F;cloud based office product. if LibreOffice wants to remain relevant, they should make some sort of cloud based product (if they already have, i&#x27;m not aware of it).
评论 #23795652 未加载
评论 #23795655 未加载
philistine将近 5 年前
I think a big issue with Libre Office is that it’s simply an open source version of Microsoft Office. They have no identity in my mind. This lack of identity invites unfair comparisons to Microsoft Office whenever you’re using it.<p>The other office suite in my life is Apple’s iWork. And let me tell you, it has a ton of issues, but it is not a copy of Office at all. It has its own goals and identity. I self-published a book using Pages, it’s not completely lacking in features. But it does things in its own way. So I don’t compare it to Office. I evaluate it against the job that needs to be done.
slipheen将近 5 年前
It seems to me like they&#x27;re saying &quot;Commercial development for LibreOffice is at serious risk&quot;.<p>It may be that all commercially supported development on LibreOffice stops- I&#x27;m not sure this would be a terrible thing at this point.<p>Abiword (is a MUCH smaller editor) and gets a release every few years or so - There&#x27;s not much it needs anymore.<p>Evolution is no longer commercially supported, nor is Thunderbird - Developent may have slowed down after they lost their patrons, but they already did most things that they set out to anyway.<p>Many OSS software doesn&#x27;t have or need commercial benefactors.<p>My personal use-cases are certainly relatively restricted, but maybe it&#x27;s OK to just let it go into maintenance mode? LibreOffice already does pretty much everything I&#x27;d want it to.<p>I (again, personally) don&#x27;t see a whole lot of demand for new features.
LockAndLol将近 5 年前
This is a pretty serious accusation or message to spread around. I for one wouldn&#x27;t like to see Libreoffice die. We can&#x27;t let the only serious, open-source alternative to the titan of M$ simply disappear.<p>But this was too much of a long, badly structured rant. Without prior knowledge of the inner working, it looks like rambling. It would be a much better post if it were written like an article or wiki page with headers and subsections:<p>- top 3 reasons there is serious risk in bullet points<p>- each bullet point with a single paragraph or sentence summarizing what could be done to mitigate that point; maybe even a personal appeal to the reader<p>- a header per reason going into depth of the why and a more in depth mitigation strategy than what was in the first bullet points<p>- one header with subreasons that are important<p>The whole thing should maybe even be prefaced with a sentence mentioning the target audience. I donate yearly projects like this and have no idea what else can be done.
sys_64738将近 5 年前
What support do you need for a word processor? LibreOffice is just a fork of OpenOffice.org so perhaps they should look to merging their code back into OO.org?
rjohnk将近 5 年前
In regards to naming, why not call it &quot;LibreOffice Community Edition&quot; instead of &quot;Personal&quot;?
29athrowaway将近 5 年前
In Linux, I use Softmaker FreeOffice. A free (but not open source) office suite of excellent quality.<p>Looks as polished as MS Office, works perfectly with HiDPI, and is much faster than both MS Office and LibreOffice.
评论 #23799894 未加载
jimbob45将近 5 年前
In all honesty, I think that most of the LibreOffice audience would be happier with WordPad if they knew it existed (middle school students, one-off work projects, personal story-writing).
评论 #23796351 未加载
agustif将近 5 年前
How feasible would it be to build a community open source modern stack cloud&#x2F;multi-platform alternative?<p>Someone is up for the challenge? I might give it a try, who knows.
speedgoose将近 5 年前
I feel like Libre Office was a great alternative to Microsoft Office up to about 10 years ago.<p>Since and from my obviously biased point of view, the only users left are the Linux users who do not want proprietary software, and the people who want a powerful office software but can&#x27;t afford or don&#x27;t want to pay for Microsoft office.<p>The user interface is a relic of the past in my opinion. I heard that they were working on improving the user experience, but I don&#x27;t know what&#x27;s the state of these projects.<p>I used to recommend OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Today I recommend Microsoft Office.
askafriend将近 5 年前
Just an anecdote: LibreOffice has had 0 impact on my life in the past decade.<p>In that decade, my expectations for text editing software has changed dramatically. I expect online, cloud-based, collaborative, document editing. Anything less is a no go, and I expect modern interfaces for software I use often.<p>Unfortunately the LibreOffice pitch is just un-compelling to me. I won&#x27;t really be losing any sleep over this.
评论 #23795660 未加载
评论 #23795840 未加载