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447 点作者 lcnmrn将近 5 年前

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thrownaway65535将近 5 年前
Formerly known as &quot;Sublevel&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8111691" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8111691</a>
joe_the_user将近 5 年前
When you say &quot;social network&quot;, do you mean Twitter Clone?<p>It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it&#x27;s many problems and the way the user doesn&#x27;t really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn&#x27;t something most people enjoy being on but I think it&#x27;s what people get on to seem&#x2F;feel important.<p>I think by earlier terminology Facebook&#x2F;Myspace&#x2F;Friendster&#x2F;linkedin are social networks and Twitter&#x2F;Mastodon&#x2F;etc are &quot;microblogging services&quot;.<p>I think the clone-Twitter impulse is kind of terrible. Not even to say Facebook is inherently better but because I don&#x27;t think ways of defining one&#x27;s own social network have been exhausted by all the networks out there (Discord is another format with increasing presences which shows that new ways of organizing connections are still possible).
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andreygrehov将近 5 年前
This is the only JavaScript file they use [0]. It&#x27;s a pure joy.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;static&#x2F;script.js?v=6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;static&#x2F;script.js?v=6</a>
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jbaudanza将近 5 年前
I wanted to see how it would handle non-ascii text so I typed 안녕하세요 and it romanized it to annyeonghaseyo. (This is &quot;hello&quot; in Korean). I did not expect that.<p>I really like the idea of a text-only social network, so I hope this takes off. I think the author should consider supporting other languages though. Seeing romanized text isn&#x27;t very helpful to people that actually want to read or write in other character sets. It&#x27;s a cute feature though.
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carrolldunham将近 5 年前
As seen on twitch, letting people put emojis in their name on a black and white site sets up a system where scanning eyes just see those eye-candies and skip over the rest. This is useful on twitch as it highlights the streamer&#x27;s paying subscribers but here it&#x27;s just whoever is more obnoxious.
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chrismartin将近 5 年前
We can&#x27;t embed media but we can still link to it? I welcome efforts to encourage higher-quality discussion on social media, but I don&#x27;t see how this gets us there.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;about" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;about</a><p>&quot;Subreply was created by Lucian Marin from the desire of a having a simple to use, English only, public forum that has nothing in common with ancient and untrustworthy social networks.&quot;<p>What does &quot;untrustworthy&quot; mean in this context, and how is Subreply easier to trust by comparison? The entire terms are &quot;be nice or else&quot;. What exactly does &quot;nice&quot; mean and what are the consequences of violating this vague standard? It doesn&#x27;t say. I don&#x27;t understand how that&#x27;s trustworthy.
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lucb1e将近 5 年前
Tried registering, I usually try the username luc on sites to see if it&#x27;s still free. But that is an &quot;invalid username&quot;, no explanation given. So what, do I need to add numbers and special characters? Is my legal name too short? Is it already in use? This tells me nothing.<p>Also, the about page is contradictory:<p>&gt; [brain][muscles] one or two emojis instead of avatars<p>&gt; [...]<p>&gt; ASCII only because it works everywhere<p>Hmm hmm, I see. Emojis work so everywhere that I have to [substitute] them to even talk about it here. Seems to me like &quot;we don&#x27;t do encoding because it&#x27;s hard&quot; more than because it works everywhere: any device with emoji support will also at least support the basic characters -- perhaps a unicode snowman won&#x27;t exist in some fonts, but surely a character like µ should work... This is not just about other languages, either: °C, µm, different length dashes, etc. are regular non-ASCII symbols that occur in English.<p>And no, &quot;ASCII only&quot; is not meant in the sense of &quot;plain text only&quot;. Any non-US ASCII is converted (ç-&gt;c, ÿ-&gt;y, ś-&gt;s, µ-&gt;u).
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moxplod将近 5 年前
I thought that was what HN was.
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kristaps将近 5 年前
It&#x27;s 2020 and &quot;Last name should use English alphabet&quot; when entering an accented Latin letter...
ketanmaheshwari将近 5 年前
&quot;About -&gt; Limitations: ASCII only because it works everywhere&quot;<p>This should be in the features. It is the strongest selling point of the site as I see it.
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kyoob将近 5 年前
Clicked through and the username of someone who&#x27;d replied in the thread on the front page was a racial slur. That&#x27;s enough to turn me away. I&#x27;m no prude, but allowing someone to drop a bomb like that in their handle is a big broken window. Doesn&#x27;t instill hope that I&#x27;d have a lot of positive interactions with the folks in this community.
russellbeattie将近 5 年前
Bringing back social isn&#x27;t about getting rid of images and focusing on ASCII text, it&#x27;s about getting rid of URLs and article snippets, and refocusing solely on user created content. Remember when streams were only filled with updates from old friends and family with things like birthday parties, vacations, graduations, concerts, restaurant meals, etc., and <i>nothing</i> else? (Sort of like Instagram still is, but with text allowed, two-way authorization only and without the &quot;influencers&quot;.)<p>Now you log in (FB, Twitter, etc.) only to find out which of your casual acquaintances are the most gullible, racist, sexist, homophobic, sociopathic or worse by the news items they&#x27;re spewing into their increasingly extreme echo chamber. Sure, the same thing could be conveyed by a selfie wearing a MAGA hat, but it would happen much, much less often.<p>All these services would have to do to get back to their social roots is provide a default filter for news items. But they refuse, and in fact are increasingly manipulating your feed instead to increase &quot;engagement&quot; (read: anger and hate).<p>I&#x27;m amazed that a social-<i>only</i> network hasn&#x27;t taken off yet that provides this basic functionality. It feels like the time is right for something like this.
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aymeric将近 5 年前
I want this to succeed. There is something pure and calming about the idea.<p>Design wise though, I suggest making the content (text written by users) easier to read &#x2F; scan.<p>Right now, the usernames are more prominent than the comments.<p>Have you tried putting the username and timestamp on the same line as the content?<p>Also maybe use grey colors for less important text.
cosmotic将近 5 年前
Basically half the messages have an emoji in it, so I would not describe it as &quot;text only&quot;
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mudlus将近 5 年前
I wish there was just a protocol to do what Twitter does. Oh wait: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;activitypub.rocks&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;activitypub.rocks&#x2F;</a>
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newman8r将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve been trying to make something along those lines at podaero.com, and I&#x27;m actually trying to get HN users to join some of the small groups... see here if interested <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podaero.com&#x2F;info&#x2F;hacker-pod" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;podaero.com&#x2F;info&#x2F;hacker-pod</a>
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aahortwwy将近 5 年前
This is cool. I&#x27;m glad people are working in this direction.<p>A common theme that I&#x27;ve noticed among recent upstart social efforts is a focus on platform and&#x2F;or policy differentiation. I personally believe this is not very important during the phase where a social network is working to reach critical mass. It seems to me that most successful social networks got their start by offering users unique content, by targeting existing, tight-knit communities, or through some combination of the two. Platform and policy help shape the social network, but there needs to be a network to be shaped in the first place - they don&#x27;t form magically.
Upvoter33将近 5 年前
Gains popularity. Suddenly a new thing that may become a better social network! Then, bought by Facebook for $2B.<p>The End.
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jtvjan将近 5 年前
How about adding a `latest top level posts&#x27; page? Many posts that you see on the search page don&#x27;t make sense without seeing the post they&#x27;re in reply to.
_zllx将近 5 年前
Oops! I made an account and logged out from within Settings so I could read over more of the about page, but I got stuck with Internal Server Error on the whole site. I deleted the &quot;identity&quot; cookie from site storage, which was an empty string after logging out. I logged back in and it seems to be working as normal. Other than that, I really like the vibe of Subreply, nice work.
enriquto将近 5 年前
&gt; English only<p>I understand that they limit the text to ascii. But many other languages can be (sort of) written using only ascii characters. How do they want to enforce that? Do they block users who speak other languages? It sounds callous to me. A great thing about twitter is precisely that it allows to form communities of speakers of tiny, globally irrelevant languages.
dgzl将近 5 年前
Was thinking about a dating app where you only get to reveal a few photos&#x2F;ability to message after answering a short multiple choice quiz managed by the user. The questions can be arbitrary but the point is that the pursued gets to control which pursuer can get to their profile via question navigation. This could help throw off unwanted pursuers.
root_axis将近 5 年前
I can&#x27;t use my personal e-mail domain to sign up. I do not like that.
benbristow将近 5 年前
So it&#x27;s Twitter but with no features? Why?
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aaroninsf将近 5 年前
I would like to see a video-faces-only social network.<p>Setting aside the topic of lookism and other bias issues,<p>I assert that the apparently intrinsic and inevitable degradation of low-bandwidth communication into tribalism and discord,<p>would be greatly retarded by a universal requirement for real-time high-bandwidth messaging.<p>Yes, this would break a lot of other qualities&#x2F;features; but I&#x27;d be willing to give it a try.<p>(Stretch goal, looking-the-camera&#x2F;image-in-the-eye as an additional requirement...)<p>I know this is counter to the frictionless, skim and summarize and react many-parallel-sources sipping-from-the-stream relationship we have evolved with out various extent social media platforms....<p>...but it&#x27;s about time we tried something really different, in pursuit of finding a better balance between our technologies and our humanity, to put it grandly.
guywithabike将近 5 年前
It’s nice that people are trying different things but the N word is plastered all over the site and when I emailed Lucian about it, he was curt and dismissive and told me to use a “delete” button that doesn’t work. Subreply has no guards against abuse.
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mxuribe将近 5 年前
I like the premise of sort of simplifying things a bit..but nowadays I&#x27;m not signing up for any centralized system&#x2F;network if i can avoid it. For me, an important criteria would be if it can federate (that is, not be centralized), and additionally, ideally if i can self-host my own instance. Gone are the days where i blindly sign up for systems that are centralized. I should clarify that i&#x27;m by no means bashing the people behind this effort - kudos to them for trying new stuff! With no offense to them, I&#x27;m merely noting that if this effort were combined with the fediverse efforts, then it would interest me.
65536将近 5 年前
I prefer image boards and posting anonymously.<p>For example, see this mobile friendly image board:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;minichan.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;minichan.org&#x2F;</a><p>I’d like to see more of the HN crowd come there. It might raise the quality of the content on Minichan.
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syntaxing将近 5 年前
Neat idea but...seems like its IRC all over again?!
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swagonomixxx将近 5 年前
Pages load quite fast, I&#x27;m assuming not a lot of JavaScript being used (haven&#x27;t checked the Network tab to see what was downloaded).<p>I have no use for social networks of any kind, but I guess if you want a non-cancerous Twitter, this looks like one.
1f60c将近 5 年前
At first I thought this would be a literal text-only social network, à la txti.
DarkContinent将近 5 年前
How are you handling content moderation?
TeaDude将近 5 年前
Always considered doing this sort of thing but with a more myspace-y lean but never did because I knew the users would still find ways to ruin it in multiple ways.<p>Off the top of my head people could still just link to media and it would make grooming far easier without any expectations of profile photos.<p>This is all compounded by the fact that text is much harder to moderate than images as you can&#x27;t immediately read the situation at a glance and it&#x27;s not like moderating a normal social network was ever an easy task anyway.
johnsas828将近 5 年前
These guys are building a subscription-based social network. It&#x27;s a freemium model. Best part is that they are sharing 70% of their subscription fees with original content creators. Every time someone likes your post you&#x27;ll make money. It&#x27;s an interesting idea.<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sivaapp.xyz&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sivaapp.xyz&#x2F;</a>
amwelles将近 5 年前
No report button. Already seeing racist usernames.
fallat将近 5 年前
Could&#x27;ve easily been done with ActivityPub.
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foxhop将近 5 年前
Please let me follow people.<p>Next let me see all the people I follow on a &quot;pintrest&quot; style page. I should be able to see only their latest subreply.<p>Most recent subreply to oldest.<p>I hit refresh when I&#x27;m ready for updates.<p>If I want to see all of somebodies subreplies I will click their username to see all the threads they have created.
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patcon将近 5 年前
As i understand, there&#x27;s some evidence that visual social networks are preferred by females, e.g. pinterest.<p>I recall a hypothesis that it has to do with women (or rather, neurotypes bell-curving around female gender identification) tending to use social media to discuss interpersonal and emotion-based content rather than facts and knowledge-sharing. There is more value placed on relationships with others when using social networks, which perhaps is bolstered by visual elements.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S0268401219300696" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S026840121...</a><p>I do wonder whether text-based social networks (e.g., some subreddits, slashdot, HN, mailing lists) are biased toward making a certain sort of mind and neurotype more comfortable. And without those neurotypes, what ways of seeing might that community also now be lacking...<p>disclosure: i usually identify more with feminine ways of relating to knowledge and people, than masculine ones.
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dvtrn将近 5 年前
I saw this shared here some time ago and never could find it again, appreciate you resurfacing this!
jbaber将近 5 年前
I thought &quot;text-only&quot; meant it was somehow riding over SMS which was blowing my mind.<p>Still a nice idea.
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abductee_hg将近 5 年前
&quot;irc&quot;? :)
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njsubedi将近 5 年前
They should do some kind of username filtering though. It&#x27;s much easier because everything is in English, so a blacklist of words could do the job. I found several offensive username and names within few minutes of browsing the site.
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6510将近 5 年前
Firefox, after registering, asks to save the second name rather than the username.
latchkey将近 5 年前
&quot;English only&quot;
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rawoke083600将近 5 年前
Wow really awesome , feels like ascii reddit, but better company.<p>I love the &#x27;about us&#x27; page&#x2F;format. Im definitely stealing (lending) it for my upcoming project.
amelius将近 5 年前
I feel like I&#x27;ve become less social since the advent of social networks.<p>And the catch-22 is that quitting social networks seems to make the problem even worse.
timwaagh将近 5 年前
I have to say it looks very clean, but I can&#x27;t live with the lack of internationalisation, so personally I will have to pass.
edu将近 5 年前
Really nice, the big question is who to follow and how to find them. Twitter solved that masterfully on their on-boarding experience.
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smhmd将近 5 年前
I really hope this takes off. I already love it to the exclusion of Twitter with its thought leader wannabes and tech comedians.
basedtho将近 5 年前
How do I post? There&#x27;s no send button
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zemo将近 5 年前
it&#x27;s more than five years old but the username @fart wasn&#x27;t taken so I&#x27;m pretty sure it&#x27;s not taking off anyway I&#x27;m <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;fart" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;subreply.com&#x2F;fart</a>
btomar将近 5 年前
The best thing I liked is their Terms policy &#x27;Be nice or else&#x27; :)
bugmen0t将近 5 年前
&gt; ASCII only because it works everywhere<p><i>cries in his native language</i>
MR4D将近 5 年前
Loads fast at least.
dorianmariefr将近 5 年前
nicely done, maybe searching for hashtags should only return hashtags used and not a generic search for the keyword
democracy将近 5 年前
FidoNet was my text-only social network...
motohagiography将近 5 年前
What a profoundly subversive idea.
johnchristopher将近 5 年前
Like it. No logging out ?
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anthk将近 5 年前
Ah, yes, usenet.
mshockwave将近 5 年前
isn&#x27;t this similar to Japan&#x27;s 2ch?
cessor将近 5 年前
you mean... like irc?
techgiant_guy将近 5 年前
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