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If We Weren’t the First Industrial Civilization on Earth, Would We Ever Know?

41 点作者 shadykiller将近 5 年前

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jjk166将近 5 年前
Our civilization, and presumably any other industrial civilization on earth, utilizes huge quantities of steel reinforced concrete. While the structures may only last decades, the material would be recognizably unnatural for hundreds of millions of years. There is no natural process which would produce limestone with veins of high concentration iron ore running through, nonetheless produce it everywhere on earth in a huge variety of conditions. Further, all the deposits of this weird mineral combination would form at the same time, and this period would be a blink of an eye geologically speaking. While there may be theories other than industrial civilization put forward, but it would be obvious to everyone that something incredibly weird happened at the time that civilization existed, and detailed investigation would certainly find other technosignatures once they knew where to look.
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klyrs将近 5 年前
This certainly tickles my fancy:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ancient-origins.net&#x2F;unexplained-phenomena&#x2F;ancient-nanostructures-found-ural-mountains-are-out-place-and-time-002046" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ancient-origins.net&#x2F;unexplained-phenomena&#x2F;ancien...</a><p>I tend to think that these weird helical structures are the product of two metallic crystals being extruded from a rock under pressure, at serendipitous angles to take the form they do... but it&#x27;s way more fun to think about aliens, time travellers and prehistoric civilizations
melling将近 5 年前
Lots of comments at the initial release of the article.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22150137" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22150137</a>
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Merrill将近 5 年前
There are some open pit mines that are likely to last quite a while. The largest is 4 km wide by 1.2 km deep and even if filled in by drifting sands, it would be unmistakably artificial. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.iseekplant.com.au&#x2F;blog&#x2F;5-largest-open-pit-mines" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.iseekplant.com.au&#x2F;blog&#x2F;5-largest-open-pit-mines</a><p>Dams are also likely to be detected. The dams themselves may have disappeared, but the artificial sediment beds in the valleys upstream will likely persist for a very long time.
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rightbyte将近 5 年前
There should be artifacts of cut diamonds or goldbars around in the ocean floor. Artifacts on the moon.
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jbotz将近 5 年前
Size matters! I think one of the key factors here is that a civilization that produces our level (or greater) of advanced technology has to be really big, in terms of numbers of individuals... an ancient city state of 100,000 - 1,000,000 people isn&#x27;t going to develop quantum mechanics. You need a <i>lot</i> of people doing science to be able to figure all of this stuff out. And when a civilization gets this big, like ours, it <i>does</i> leave permanent marks, like some of the other comments here have correctly pointed out.
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ta17711771将近 5 年前
Ambient radiation has its origins in previous nuclear warfare, and all societies that have spawned since have had the proper tolerance.<p>Maybe.
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