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Why Most Founders Don’t Take Good Advice

39 点作者 deppp将近 5 年前

18 条评论

syllogism将近 5 年前
Argh this bullshit is extremely frustrating. Apologies for the intemperate rant.<p>OF COURSE nobody can use advice like &quot;hire slow, fire fast&quot;. They ignore this advice because it&#x27;s <i>fucking useless</i>. I just...how could someone think this was magical wisdom? Where to even start with this?<p>How about this: consider a linear model, Y = W @ X + b. You&#x27;re multiplying some weights by some input features, adding a bias vector. Advice like &quot;hire slow, fire fast&quot; is a bias vector at best. It&#x27;s just telling you to correct in some direction. But it&#x27;s the weights that matter!<p>Of course you&#x27;ll never be able to make decisions if you ignore the particulars of each situation. And notice what&#x27;s not in advice like &quot;hire slow, fire fast&quot;? Anything about the <i>actual situation</i>. So of course this is useless!<p>How do these people even <i>function</i> if this isn&#x27;t obvious to them? Do they do this in their actual lives? Just charge around discarding all the features and making their decisions by simple rules? How do they even open their laptops to type up this crap?
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doctor_eval将近 5 年前
Good advice is only actionable when it&#x27;s also timely. &quot;Hire slow and fire fast&quot;, for example, is not helpful advice for a founder who&#x27;s still trying to get seed funding -- hiring is a problem they <i>want</i> to have. So the advice is good but they&#x27;re not likely to remember it.<p>You can&#x27;t expect someone to squirrel away every bit of good advice, just waiting for a time when it&#x27;s useful.<p>I mean, there are plenty of times when I&#x27;ve slapped my head and said, &quot;Oh, <i>that&#x27;s</i> what they were talking about&quot;... but mostly they told me when I didn&#x27;t have the problem, and then I remembered too late :-\<p>Also, this pissed me off:<p>&gt; But due to the depth of knowledge and experience here in Silicon Valley, there are many high quality people who do give great advice<p>I may live in Lower Fartville, but... really?
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kristofferR将近 5 年前
And don&#x27;t forget that founders are bombarded with what is proclaimed to be &quot;good advice&quot;, including &quot;Don&#x27;t try, get a stable job instead&quot; and a ton of directly conflicting advice.<p>It quickly becomes incredibly hard to discern what is actually good advice for your situation to what is bad advice with good intentions, especially without the lived experience.
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petargyurov将近 5 年前
I think the whole article can be summed up with this:<p>&gt; This is no different than when growing up and you used to ignore your parents advice because you think you know better<p>To learn some things you have to experience them, often multiple times. That&#x27;s why making mistakes is the most valuable part of any experience.<p>I have made a tonne of mistakes so far, a lot of them because I was disillusioned at the time -- but disillusionment is a double-edged sword -- it can be the catalyst a lot of people need when starting a company.
dagorenouf将近 5 年前
It seems to me that the value of advice is not to get people to change their behavior right now, but rather to plant a seed in their mind that will make it easier for them to grow in the future.<p>For example, before founding my startup, I read countless articles about the value of iterating fast. Yet I made the mistake! It seemed almost unavoidable.<p>However, because I had read that advice so many times and actually agreed with it, it made it way easier to correct course. As soon as I realized that I was making the mistake, I integrated all this previous advice very quickly.<p>Good advice does help, but it can only be integrated when one is ready for it.
drewcoo将近 5 年前
Title should be &quot;Why Founders Don&#x27;t Listen to Me.&quot;<p>Answer is deflection: founders just aren&#x27;t as smart as the author.
rudiv将近 5 年前
&quot;Hire slow, fire fast&quot; is a great example of valleyspeak that may seem horrible to someone who doesn&#x27;t already know it is.
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Aeolun将近 5 年前
If they took good advice, they wouldn’t be founders :&#x2F;
timavr将近 5 年前
People who give a great advice can back it up by data, logical explanation, operational experience and are aware of their limitations.<p>People who give bad advice are people who repeat the people above, but without relevant background.<p>It is not about the audience, it is about the messenger.
fogetti将近 5 年前
I guess they don&#x27;t take good advice because the advice isn&#x27;t good? The author doesn&#x27;t give any reasons to think otherwise.
yadco将近 5 年前
It could be &quot;Why Most People Don’t Take Good Advice&quot; The 3 reasons listed apply to a lot of people.
Jasper_将近 5 年前
Why is &quot;Hire Slow, Fire Fast&quot; considered good advice? You can&#x27;t fire faster than you hire, obviously, and firing has a tremendous cost on team morale.
laybak将近 5 年前
From a founder&#x27;s perspective, being able to take good advice first requires separating &quot;good advice&quot; from the &quot;bad&quot;.<p>I put together an ongoing collection to juxtapose the often contradictory advice here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knowledgeartist.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;747efd5b-ab1d-492f-8dfb-d56aba761617" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knowledgeartist.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;747efd5b-ab1d-492f-8dfb...</a>
awillen将近 5 年前
His third answer is the right one, but he&#x27;s way too dismissive of it. Founders don&#x27;t listen to people because everyone said quitting your job to start a startup was dumb. Of course when those people come back and try to offer suggestions on how to run that startup that&#x27;s now succeeding, they don&#x27;t listen.<p>And by the way, founders often do take good advice - they take it from other founders, VCs (the good ones, at least) and other experts who are the ones that understand entrepreneurship and&#x2F;or the domian of their startup. They hire experienced VPs and take their advice, because that&#x27;s why they hired them.<p>Looking at this guy&#x27;s LinkedIn, he spent ten years at Yahoo and has founded exactly nothing. Perhaps he ought to retitle the piece of &quot;I&#x27;m upset that founders don&#x27;t take my advice.&quot;
duxup将近 5 年前
Does any of this matter?<p>Maybe I&#x27;m crazy but I assume that most startups fail because their product or idea wasn&#x27;t great enough to take off...<p>There&#x27;s this whole world of advice surrounding the minutia of startups and I&#x27;m pretty sure generally we&#x27;ve found that even a half built great idea will likely take off ... and the best managed bad idea won&#x27;t.<p>Now good management advice is still good advice, although the advice here is pretty close to truisms as it gets. Yeah fire fire fast, that doesn&#x27;t tell who who and why and etc. That feels very much like the &quot;Be Radiohead&quot; type advice.
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jiveturkey将近 5 年前
&gt; Most advice is not good. I admit that.<p>Would have been best to stop the article there.<p>&gt; 3) They think they are Exception to the Rule.<p>They are. Or rather, they need to be if they expect to succeed (by VC definition of succeed, which is the context of this article). Successful VC funded companies are by definition, exceptional. There is no playbook to follow, except T2D3 at all costs.
sbt将近 5 年前
Have you ever tried giving parenting advice to a new mother? Giving advice to founders is the same thing. You are probably right, but this is their baby and figuring it out for themselves is part of the startup experience.
ransom1538将近 5 年前
Building a successful startup is %90 luck and %10 hard work.<p>People seek advice from people that are successful. That is why receiving startup advice is so stupid. Being successful in the startup world is mainly luck with a sprinkle of grit. The analogy would be interviewing a lottery winner on how &quot;they did it&quot;. The advice is worse than nothing at all. Here is the irony: Advice from people that fail at startups <i>IS</i> useful and actionable - but people don&#x27;t like to listen to those people.<p>EG. Munchery. If they had started in 2020 during covid they would be a billion dollar company. They started in 2011 and failed terribly. Luck. IF they had been successful, and did launch in 2020, the advice from this CEO would be horrible. &quot;Hire top talent, etc&quot; Because* the only reason they did succeed was due to timing - and that advice wouldn&#x27;t be seen or given.
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