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Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

417 点作者 0xedb将近 5 年前

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OzzyB将近 5 年前
Quoting from the excellent blog post[1] submitted here yesterday[0] that stole my morning workout time:<p>&quot; Instagram is some strange hybrid mix of social and interest graph, and now it’s also a jumble of formats, with a Stories feed relegated to a top bar in the app while the more stagnant and less active original feed continues to run vertically as the default. Messaging is pushed to a separate pane and also served by a separate app. Longer form videos bounce you to Instagram TV, which is just an app for videos that exceed some time limit, I guess? And soon, perhaps commerce will be jammed in somehow? Meanwhile, they have a Discover tab, or whatever it is called, which seems like it could be the default tab if they wanted to take a more interest-based approach like TikTok. But they seem to have punted on making any hard decisions for so long now that the app is just a Frankenstein of feeds and formats and functions spread across a somewhat confused constellation of apps. &quot;<p>Let&#x27;s see if they&#x27;re forced to make any &quot;hard decisions&quot; about their bundled UX in future...<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24049676" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24049676</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eugenewei.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2020&#x2F;8&#x2F;3&#x2F;tiktok-and-the-sorting-hat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eugenewei.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2020&#x2F;8&#x2F;3&#x2F;tiktok-and-the-sorti...</a>
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snowwrestler将近 5 年前
I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn&#x27;t figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry.<p>At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an <i>entirely new service</i>--Tik Tok--was able to rise against them.<p>That said, I do think there may be a human-oriented life cycle to these sorts of social apps. Once a social platform is around long enough, it becomes the thing that old people use (since its original users grow older with it). Then the next round of teens seek a new platform--even if the functionality is the same--just so they can have it to themselves.<p>Under this theory, there&#x27;s <i>nothing</i> Twitter could have done with Vine to make it beat Tik Tok, since a crucial feature of Tik Tok is simply that it&#x27;s new.<p>The business strategy in the face of this theory would be to continuously start or buy new social platforms with similar feature sets, but each time with a new brand that is totally separate from the (older) parent brand so teens don&#x27;t get scared off.
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carlosdp将近 5 年前
&gt; Reels&#x27; video distribution algorithm will resemble TikTok&#x27;s: users will see the most popular videos at the moment, rather than a selection tailored to their individual profile.<p>That&#x27;s not how TikTok works, the feed is really good at tailoring to the stuff you actually like to watch. It&#x27;s a big part of why it&#x27;s so popular.<p>&gt; Reels differs from TikTok thanks to Instagram&#x27;s augmented reality effects, which let users overlay images and filters onto their videos.<p>TikTok has had AR filters for a long time now...
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nilkn将近 5 年前
Reels isn’t going to compete with TikTok in any real way for a few simple reasons.<p>First and foremost, as a non-Instagram user, I flat-out can’t use it. A while back, when I was curious about TikTok, I downloaded it and was instantly swiping through a video feed that was already getting customized for me. I downloaded Instagram this morning and was presented with a wall to create an account. Nope.<p>Second, TikTok is new. Instagram is old. Young people want to use the newest social app that old people haven’t yet infiltrated.
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surround将近 5 年前
Facebook launched Lasso as its own app two years ago. I’m not sure if there were any differences between it and TikTok, but either way, it failed miserably.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;01&#x2F;lasso-facebook-tiktok-shut-down&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;01&#x2F;lasso-facebook-tiktok-shut...</a>
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rsynnott将近 5 年前
How to appeal to Gen Z; name the thing after a form of video playback that was totally obsolete before any of them were born.
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ogre_codes将近 5 年前
It seems like Instagram is Facebook&#x27;s anti-competitive tool. Whenever some new social network crops up, Facebook bolts on a clone to Instagram. Eventually it&#x27;s going to be such a bloated mess it&#x27;s going to cease being useful to anyone.
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cboornaz17将近 5 年前
Jumped on my Instagram explore page to see what Reels actually looks like since the article doesn’t show any screenshots..<p>Of the first three posts I saw, two of them were cross posted from TikTok. Not that it’s new to see social media content posted to another app, but is there anything to be said for the fact that Facebook can now monetize TikToks in another fashion?<p>Seems like even if they don’t win in terms of creators moving platforms, it would still be in a creator’s best interest to post a successful TikTok again as a Reel.
kashyapc将近 5 年前
For a moment, I read the word &quot;reels&quot; in the headline as a verb (meaning: &quot;lose one&#x27;s balance and stagger&quot;), instead of a noun (film reel). But my mind quickly readjusted: &quot;that doesn&#x27;t make sense, because FB owns Instagram.&quot;
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samcheng将近 5 年前
Comedian Jeff Wright had a great commentary recently on how Instagram has a history of copying upstart social networks (Vine, Snapchat, and now TikTok).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;JeffRightNoww&#x2F;status&#x2F;1287842365126914048" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;JeffRightNoww&#x2F;status&#x2F;1287842365126914048</a><p>(Coincidentally, I think Jeff Wright had his breakthrough TikTok...)
Firebrand将近 5 年前
Reels’ inclusion in Instagram makes the UI confusing for me. Right now it only feeds me three or four videos that are peppered in my discover feed when I scroll down so I have to swipe up to refresh for more videos:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;jDtYbVP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;jDtYbVP</a><p>Why not have a separate section dedicated to Reels content instead of having it interspersed with photos and regular video posts?
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magic7s将近 5 年前
I have a hunch that TikTok fakes the amount of likes that users post. I’ve heard people say their first post goes viral. It’s an interesting strategy. Young person posts a TikTok, “get famous”, keeps posting.
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esotericsean将近 5 年前
I truly hate that Instagram is owned by Facebook. It&#x27;s genuinely the best, most positive social media platform that I&#x27;ve been a part of. I&#x27;ve made genuine friends and found an amazing community in my niche.<p>Please don&#x27;t destroy it, Facebook.
zackhsi将近 5 年前
How powerful is the video editing compared to TikTok?
holografix将近 5 年前
Instagram is what it always was for Facebook: a clear sign of the decline of Facebook’s original product into irrelevance while it slowly mutates into infinite town square forums trapped in valley of echoing stupidity and a less anonymous craigslist&#x2F;gumtree. The Instagram acquisition was the first clear sign Facebook never could innovate it could only steal and perfect existing ideas. Now they decided that outright copying is cheaper than buying, so they copy Snapchat and now TikTok.
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switch11将近 5 年前
hats off to Facebook for being absolutely shameless and zero ethics<p>they don&#x27;t even pretend to be honest (unlike Google) and it&#x27;s a miracle so far they haven&#x27;t had to pay damages for all the &#x27;inspiration&#x27; they have found from other people&#x27;s products
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pletsch将近 5 年前
My biggest wish for Instagram is to stop creating new ways to format content and give users more control over how their content is distributed. For example, I know a few people with private accounts for close friends or fitness accounts, why not create feeds of posts that people can subscribe to? They have a similar feature with stories&#x2F;highlights.<p>This is most likely to boost account #s but it&#x27;s frustrating to have to follow multiple accounts for one person.
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beepboopbeep将近 5 年前
I can&#x27;t help but feel that zuckerberg has unduly influenced the president to ban tiktok in order for them to further corner the social media market.<p>This feels wrong.
verst将近 5 年前
Today I tried posting a Reel. This wasn&#x27;t intuitive as the flow for doing this is similar to creating a Story. When selecting an existing video as a reel I do not have a way to edit it or add overlays and the total reel duration is 15 seconds vs 60 on TikTok.<p>Discovering reels is tricky also. I have to go to search and click on the word reels within the random suggested reel at the top.<p>What is more - I want reels to be separate from whom I follow on Instagram. I want to follow certain content creators for their reels, but do not want to see their stories or photo stream. I also don&#x27;t want them to show up as people I follow on my main Instagram profile.<p>The TikTok features for creating content, discovering it, replying to it (remix &#x2F; duet etc) and just the responsiveness of the UI make it much more fun and pleasant to use.<p>Reels does not meaningfully compete with TikTok. It will only appeal to some of the existing user base, but not attract TikTok users.<p>FYI I&#x27;m 34. I post music, running, travel and random adventure clips to Instagram, TikTok and other places.
ffggvv将近 5 年前
why does everyone think they can beat tik tok just taking their existing content and changing the navigation to clone tik tok?<p>people use it for the content, not the navigation style
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sidcool将近 5 年前
This seems like a perfect opportunity since TikTok is banned in India. Most influencers will migrate to Instagram reels. I don&#x27;t like facebook&#x27;s business model, but seems they know how to make money.
DrBazza将近 5 年前
Never used Tiktok, or Instagram, and Facebook just now seems to be nothing more than a feed of irrelevant ads to, and any friends&#x27; or family posts are relegated to the little bell icon.<p>I barely look at it more than once every few days now as it has lost much of its utility.<p>Most of my friends and family are on other social networks and sites (twitter, strava, discord) now with fewer, or no ads, or even just whatsapp groups on the phone.
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plibither8将近 5 年前
This is it&#x27;s worldwide launch. Reels was already launched in India a few weeks ago when the Indian government imposed a ban on TikTok.
euix将近 5 年前
I find myself never actually using social media. Good friends belong to the same Signal group chats. I have several of these which consists of cliques I have built up over the years in school and at work and that&#x27;s how I stay in touch. For those that are further out of reach there is email and linkedin if I really need to dig someone up from the past.
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Touche将近 5 年前
These types of articles are so frustrating and show why media is failing so badly.<p>This is an article about a product launch that:<p>* Barely talks about the product at all.<p>* No demos of what the product does.<p>* Not even a single picture of what the product looks like.<p>* Does not link to the actual product&#x27;s page.<p>* Very few links at all, and mostly to their own pages.<p>* Is 50% about the competitor&#x27;s legal&#x2F;political issues.<p>* IS 50% about the parent company&#x27;s strategy in launching the product.<p>I don&#x27;t understand why there can&#x27;t be 2 articles here:<p>* Information about the product launch.<p>* An opinion article about Facebook strategy vs. Microsoft TikTok Trump.<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure everyone just skims these articles because they are so uninformative. Can I be the only person who feels this way?
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fatjokes将近 5 年前
&gt; Facebook launches its TikTok clone, Instagram Reels<p>FTFY.<p>I&#x27;m being facetious of course. The real clone here is being done by the US gov&#x27;t, who is copying the Chinese playbook: keep out a foreign company by political means, thus encouraging local competitors.<p>I guess it&#x27;s really true that you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
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linsomniac将近 5 年前
Youtube also has one, I don&#x27;t remember when I first started noticing it, because I scrolled past it for a long time before opening one. On my phone, in the app, towards the top of the list of videos, is a section called &quot;Stories and short videos&quot;. So far, there is very little compelling in there.
Mupuff将近 5 年前
I wonder if they waited for after the congress testimony to launch this. Not surprisingly, Zuckerberg was questioned[1] about this strategy.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=FyI3ixI1xSk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=FyI3ixI1xSk</a>
heyheyhey将近 5 年前
Official announcement: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;about.instagram.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;announcements&#x2F;introducing-instagram-reels-announcement&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;about.instagram.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;announcements&#x2F;introducing-i...</a>
rconti将近 5 年前
I was going to say &quot;I can&#x27;t wait to have a second row of crap across the top of my Instagram feed that I don&#x27;t care about&quot; ... and I open the IG app, and now &quot;stories&quot; takes up two rows. haha.
whalesalad将近 5 年前
Instagram is the beta test environment&#x2F;battleground for Facebook.
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f1ying_1otus将近 5 年前
&quot;log in with Tik Tok&quot; will be their aim. They&#x27;ll push their decentralized identity platform with this and advertise that your data is safe and you aren&#x27;t being tracked.
circa将近 5 年前
Ahhh yes. More cringeworthy content for us all!
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chris_wot将近 5 年前
I read this as &quot;Instagram reels&quot; from the fact that Facebook launched a rival...
nikolay将近 5 年前
What a huge favor to Microsoft, which now can acquire TikTok for a lot less!
collegeburner将近 5 年前
Instagram has a real shot at out-doing ticktock here. It&#x27;s got much better penetration among youth and can take serious advantage of that. Ticktock is basically a subculture, used by the same people that used vsco a few years ago. Just my two cents.
jimmaswell将近 5 年前
Not a catchy name at all. I&#x27;d forecast failure on that alone.
Apocryphon将近 5 年前
The Congressional antitrust hearings were a week ago.
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nikofeyn将近 5 年前
it&#x27;s amazing to me that the same group of people that consistently whine about unfair treatment of businesses and also china are likely the same group of people applauding the administration&#x27;s taking tiktok hostage, forcing a sale with the threat of ban and wildly making up claims of what&#x27;s owed to the government while u.s. companies swoop in to release competing features and for a bargain buyout.
praveen9920将近 5 年前
&gt;..popular karaoke app TikTok..<p>Never heard it that way.
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mrkramer将近 5 年前
They should&#x27;ve chosen better name.
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shuringai将近 5 年前
wow we can finally get back to being spied on by the US as usual instead of china!
sixhobbits将近 5 年前
I read this as &quot;Instagram reels [from the blast]&quot; and was super confused about why Instagram was being hurt by products launched from its parent company.
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chessmango将近 5 年前
&quot;Instagram Reels&quot; in this headline reads like present simple tense. But then you realize that Instagram isn&#x27;t a competitor to Facebook, and well...
tus88将近 5 年前
That&#x27;s a reel bad name.
staycoolboy将近 5 年前
How can there be room for so many social media apps? One option is that all of them carve up the social media demographic in such a way that they have enough users to be profitable, but no majority. Another outcome is that teens are fickle, but if the platforms move from content creators to individuals, then it is no longer a social media platform and just the new MTV(s). I have no idea how this is going to shake out and I am fascinated by it, despite HN being the only social media platform I use.
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saos将近 5 年前
Ugh
tqwhite将近 5 年前
I wonder if Zuck included the Suppress Biden Tags feature?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buzzfeednews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;ryanmac&#x2F;instagram-related-hashtags-favoring-trump-over-biden" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.buzzfeednews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;ryanmac&#x2F;instagram-relat...</a>
mothsonasloth将近 5 年前
Has anyone noticed the emergence of axios.com articles trending on HackerNews in the last week?<p>Is this being engineered or is it because of the Trump interview on Axios?
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dmitriid将近 5 年前
&gt; The new product will be embedded within Instagram<p>Oh god. It means that, like Instagram TV or whatever it was called, it will be forcibly shoved down your throat for the next half a year with nagging reminders for another year.
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